Kepler Space Telescope: Scientists Trying to Determine Mysterious Objects in Space

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jabba the punk said:
Honestly, its just wishful thinking. But they do want to aim a radio telescope just in case there actually is an alien civilization constructing super massive celestial objects in space which honestly wouldn't hurt. The reason behind aiming the radio telescope would be that if aliens were there, and the aliens were able to produce such a large object around the sun, they would in turn be broadcasting massive radio signals from their solar system.
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and what if they used encryption (like edward snowden suggested on neil de grasse interview)? we would not be able to detect any signals as they would be perceived just as a background static if encrypted
 
99.99% chance it's big hunks of rock.

00.01% chance of Aliens.



It's definitely Aliens.
 
its 1000 light years away, so even if It is Aliens we ain't meeting them in our life times. Besides, they might be hideous.

What we need is some hot aliens up to 2-3 light years away max
 
RoryFan said:
99.99% chance it's big hunks of rock.

00.01% chance of Aliens.



It's definitely Aliens.
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I don't think the odds are even that good for it be aliens. Prob need to add a few dozen more zero's before the one.
 
Fanu said:
and what if they used encryption (like edward snowden suggested on neil de grasse interview)? we would not be able to detect any signals as they would be perceived just as a background static if encrypted
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That is a good point.

Basically, if an advanced civilization wants us not to find them, they can probably do that quite easily. Our junky probes and whatever else are nothing.
 
JonesBones said:
That is a good point.

Basically, if an advanced civilization wants us not to find them, they can probably do that quite easily. Our junky probes and whatever else are nothing.
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.... Maybe they want to be found....
 
jabba the punk said:
.... Maybe they want to be found....
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Why?

Maybe they aren't all a bunch of scared crybabies reaching for an adult hand in the dark like we are?

What organisms would want to be found by humans? What do we have to offer? We are like these stupid puppy dogs who jump into everybody's lap, lick their face, and think that everybody will love us. Why?

What are we trying to find in space? Things we can use. Of course.
 
JonesBones said:
Why?

Maybe they aren't all a bunch of scared crybabies reaching for an adult hand in the dark like we are?

What organisms would want to be found by humans? What do we have to offer? We are like these stupid puppy dogs who jump into everybody's lap, lick their face, and think that everybody will love us. Why?

What are we trying to find in space? Things we can use. Of course.
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i said that jokingly, but you are right imo. A space traversing race of aliens would have nothing to gain from encountering us. They can put themselves and us at risk. There could be some sort of War of The Worlds scenario in which we'd be the one who get screwed because of their bacteria and I DOUBT aliens wouldn't be tracking biological threats.

Also, if you look at the universe like one big ocean, It would be unwise for a curious bottom feeder fish to curiously try to make contact with great white shark. Perhaps world governments know this to be a universal fact. A law of nature per say; which might be why (imo) governments keep the public from knowing of alien life. Of course, that would only be one of the few if not many reason why governments keep the people in the dark.
 
jabba the punk said:
i said that jokingly, but you are right imo. A space traversing race of aliens would have nothing to gain from encountering us. They can put themselves and us at risk. There could be some sort of War of The Worlds scenario in which we'd be the one who get screwed because of their bacteria and I DOUBT aliens wouldn't be tracking biological threats.

Also, if you look at the universe like one big ocean, It would be unwise for a curious bottom feeder fish to curiously try to make contact with great white shark. Perhaps world governments know this to be a universal fact. A law of nature per say; which might be why (imo) governments keep the public from knowing of alien life. Of course, that would only be one of the few if not many reason why governments keep the people in the dark.
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Exactly.

Though I do think they may at least study us, or have some interest. Even if we are common or insignificant. Think of scientists on Earth. No matter how small or distant an organism is, you will find at least one person who is interested in studying it.

I watched Encounters at the End of the World by Werner Herzog. I love this guy. It is a documentary on Antarctica. He is talking with a diving biologist. They get in suits and get in that ocean. The scientist said it is crazy down there. So many creatures that could kill you in many different ways. It is war in those waters. The Ocean is one big ghetto. He didn't call it a ghetto, that is my addition.

Herzog asked the scientist an interesting question. He said something like, "Do you think that is why life left water in the first place? To escape this place?" The scientist responded that is exactly why he thinks life first left the oceans of Earth. To get away from that.

I have thought of that before. That "heaven" is actually aquatic in nature. The concept of it. A safer or more divine place above us that offers hope. Fish feel about land what humans feel about space now. We anointed space as Heaven. The Sky. A better place. This goes back to Aristotle and prior. He thought space was better because the Earth is a hellhole, and space is perfect. Heaven. We still actually believe space is Heaven. There is something greater than us out there. I think that is what we are looking for. Some smart race to basically solve our problems. Hand it over to them.

I like this scene. This penguin is us:

 
JonesBones said:
Exactly.

Though I do think they may at least study us, or have some interest. Even if we are common or insignificant. Think of scientists on Earth. No matter how small or distant an organism is, you will find at least one person who is interested in studying it.

I watched Encounters at the End of the World by Werner Herzog. I love this guy. It is a documentary on Antarctica. He is talking with a diving biologist. They get in suits and get in that ocean. The scientist said it is crazy down there. So many creatures that could kill you in many different ways. It is war in those waters. The Ocean is one big ghetto. He didn't call it a ghetto, that is my addition.

Herzog asked the scientist an interesting question. He said something like, "Do you think that is why life left water in the first place? To escape this place?" The scientist responded that is exactly why he thinks life first left the oceans of Earth. To get away from that.

I have thought of that before. That "heaven" is actually aquatic in nature. The concept of it. A safer or more divine place above us that offers hope. Fish feel about land what humans feel about space now. We anointed space as Heaven. The Sky. A better place. This goes back to Aristotle and prior. He thought space was better because the Earth is a hellhole, and space is perfect. Heaven. We still actually believe space is Heaven. There is something greater than us out there. I think that is what we are looking for. Some smart race to basically solve our problems. Hand it over to them.

I like this scene. This penguin is us:

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Interesting way to look at it. And great clip btw.

The penguin; It really makes one curious as to why it wanted to head to the mountain. I can only assume it was due to curiosity and the desire to seek something greater, but that is something humans feel. I'm not an expert on penguins so I cant say what they think and dont. Regardless of the facts, its actually quite fascinating that the penguin attempts to leave what it knows, away from safety and its comfort zone and for what? As simple and uneventful that moment was for the penguin, I'm sure it played out a huge step for the natural progression of that species and the little wont even know it.

Before all life was bound to the ocean there was that one fish to say "fucki it! I'm going out there even if it kills me.".
 
jabba the punk said:
Interesting way to look at it. And great clip btw.

The penguin; It really makes one curious as to why it wanted to head to the mountain. I can only assume it was due to curiosity and the desire to seek something greater, but that is something humans feel. I'm not an expert on penguins so I cant say what they think and dont. Regardless of the facts, its actually quite fascinating that the penguin attempts to leave what it knows, away from safety and its comfort zone and for what? As simple and uneventful that moment was for the penguin, I'm sure it played out a huge step for the natural progression of that species and the little wont even know it.

Before all life was bound to the ocean there was that one fish to say "fucki it! I'm going out there even if it kills me.".
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That penguin is like a mutation. A cultural mutation. It is going against the "program". lol.

That is often how progress is made. Error. What would we do without error? Dostoevsky covered this brilliantly in The Brothers Karamazov. The devil explaining how he came to be:

Before time was, by some decree which I could never make out, I was predestined 'to deny' and yet I am genuinely good-hearted and not at all inclined to negation. 'No, you must go and deny, without denial there's no criticism and what would a journal be without a column of criticism?' Without criticism it would be nothing but one 'hosannah.' But nothing but hosannah is not enough for life, the hosannah must be tried in the crucible of doubt and so on, in the same style. But I don't meddle in that, I didn't create it, I am not answerable for it. Well, they've chosen their scapegoat, they've made me write the column of criticism and so life was made possible.

We understand that comedy; I, for instance, simply ask for annihilation. No, live, I am told, for there'd be nothing without you.

If everything in the universe were sensible, nothing would happen.

There would be no events without you, and there must be events. So against the grain I serve to produce events and do what's irrational because I am commanded to.

For all their indisputable intelligence, men take this farce as something serious, and that is their tragedy.

They suffer, of course... but then they live, they live a real life, not a fantastic one, for suffering is life. Without suffering what would be the pleasure of it? It would be transformed into an endless church service; it would be holy, but tedious. But what about me? I suffer, but still, I don't live. I am x in an indeterminate equation. I am a sort of phantom in life who has lost all beginning and end, and who has even forgotten his own name.
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Why do you think Mulder and Scully are coming back. Kinda interesting when they are coming back right when this was discovered too hmmmmm.......................something is out there and only they can find it.
 
I might sound ignorant here but I rolled my eyes even before the alien crap. Stuff like saying it's not even a new star, but an old star. I don't think they have any idea, other than guesses, as to whether a star is new or old. I think we get BS'ed a lot when it comes to the goings on in space because 99.999999% of us have no way of ever finding out. Scientists and astrologists state these things as fact when they're actually just weak theories and they'll stay weak theories for a long long time.

And fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
 
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