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Kentucky Derby...and Beyond?

Sounds right to me bud! Haha, my memory isn't what it used to be but I do feel like you got us off to a great start this spring for sure. A hot streak is coming sooner rather than later, I feel very confident in saying that.

Yeah, a good streak has got to be coming soon as we're not nearly as bad at this as the results have shown the last couple of months. Might as well start the streak this weekend I say. We had a good BC last year after a rough summer/early fall from what I remember and I think we cashed something in about half the BC races. Especially when it came to the turf races last year when we had Oscar Performance in the Juvenile Turf, Queen's Trust in the F&M Turf, and then Highland Reel in the Turf. We did okay. Hopefully the same thing happens this year if not even better. I know I'm personally going to be backing some pretty good longer priced horses this year, and as you know, you don't need to hit very many of those to end up in the black for the day. If you make that play on Pavel in the Classic and he comes through for you then you don't even need to hit anything else to have a good weekend.
 
Taking a 2nd look at the Distaff now and all I can say is the best of luck to anybody trying to beat this girl here in that race;

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/elate-worked-4-furlongs-in-49-60-at-del-mar-on-october-29th-2017/

That's about as good as it gets as far as a workout goes. Look at the way she just exploded with her acceleration at about the 1:05 mark of that video and she did that with no urging at from from the rider. Looked like she wanted to run through a brick wall. Actually the rider didn't really do anything the whole workout, during or even after during the gallop out. The gallop out saw her run all the way around the track and when she was finally done it didn't even look like she did anything out there. She still had plenty of energy in the tank as she was up on her toes and ears pricked straight up.

I'm really not sure who can beat Elate on the square in this race all things being equal. Abel Tasman did beat her by a head a few months ago, but that was only after she cut off Elate in the stretch and that wasn't the version of Elate that she has developed into now. Stellar Wind is more of a grinding type who I'd strongly doubt can outrun Elate in the late going unless she gets a head start on her. Forever Unbridled has a nice late kick, but Elate should have a big positional advantage over her as she should get first run on the rest. Plus, Elate has already decisively won at 10F in a G1 race before at a demanding track like Saratoga, so it's hard seeing her get tired at 9F at Del Mar. With apologies to @airic_15 I have a hard time seeing Paradise Wood getting an easy lead with the presence of Champagne Room in the race and drawing the rail. That one is going to have to go early from there to get her preferred position being up close, and that will either force Paradise Woods to sit just outside her. Or if Paradise Woods is intent on getting the lead she's going to have to go faster than she would like to get it and thus open up the field a little bit. But I don't see an easy lead over soft fractions for that girl.

Elate has ran back-to-back 108 figures on Brisnet (literally "paired") with Stellar Wind's 105 from her last race the only other figure that's even remotely close from this field over the past few months. The rest are in the 97-101 range. Elate has not one, but two races that put her above the rest on figures. She doesn't have to improve on the figs to beat this field while all the rest do. Yet Elate may still be on the improve too as a 3 year-old, as she has just gotten better and better with each race she's ran. Her recent training says that could very well be the case.

Maybe a trip will get her beat, but the field isn't that big so that chance gets reduced. Otherwise who's going to beat her on the square?
 
This was Elate's last race. A G1 against older horses. Granted she didn't beat top quality horses in this race, but there were a few honest and consistent G2 & G3 types in the race. The 3rd and 4th place finishers here came back to run a clear 1st and 2nd photo finish in a G3 race this past weekend. Watch how the other jocks try to box Elate out of running room as they hit the stretch. Then watch how, once she was given just a little bit of a seam to muscle herself through, her response to the jock was instant and she exploded to clear the field within just a few strides. The girl had a rocket attached to her bum there, and judging by that explosive acceleration in her workout the other day, it is still there.

 



Sands of Mali with be the top rated horse in the Juvenile Turf race on Friday according to Timeform, and, along with Mendelssohn, will be the top rated horse in the race according to the Racing Post Ratings.

http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/statistic/international_ratings.sd

...and has the potential to go off as the longest shot on the board according to the 30/1 morning line assigned to him. In a wide open race that doesn't feature any standouts and has no clear cut favourite. He should also be sitting a good position up in the first flight of horses in a race that doesn't look like much early speed is signed on, and will probably see the winner come from the first half of the field in the early running. Just saying.
 
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I am starting to second guess my paradise woods pick but I will put elate on top with her too, I to also like sands of Mali as a nice long shot
 
I am starting to second guess my paradise woods pick but I will put elate on top with her too, I to also like sands of Mali as a nice long shot

Nah, don't start second guessing yourself, Airic. Trust your own judgement. If you see reason to think Paradise Woods has the race shape in her favour then go with it. I don't want to see you get off another horse that you initially liked only to see that horse go on to win.
 
Yeah, a good streak has got to be coming soon as we're not nearly as bad at this as the results have shown the last couple of months. Might as well start the streak this weekend I say. We had a good BC last year after a rough summer/early fall from what I remember and I think we cashed something in about half the BC races. Especially when it came to the turf races last year when we had Oscar Performance in the Juvenile Turf, Queen's Trust in the F&M Turf, and then Highland Reel in the Turf. We did okay. Hopefully the same thing happens this year if not even better. I know I'm personally going to be backing some pretty good longer priced horses this year, and as you know, you don't need to hit very many of those to end up in the black for the day. If you make that play on Pavel in the Classic and he comes through for you then you don't even need to hit anything else to have a good weekend.

Yes sir, I just looked back at my account for the hell of it and BC day was a good one last year. Collected is now up to +600. Any thoughts on whether I should settle for that or wait until race day?
 
Yes sir, I just looked back at my account for the hell of it and BC day was a good one last year. Collected is now up to +600. Any thoughts on whether I should settle for that or wait until race day?

Hmm, that's a good question, T. 6/1 on him is an excellent price I'd say compared to his chances of winning, but the public are being sold on this being a 2 horse race between Arrogate and Gun Runner, so there's always a chance he goes off even a little higher than that. Then again, I can't imagine some of the sharp money letting him go off too high. Maybe a half now, half later type of play for you?
 
Hmm, that's a good question, T. 6/1 on him is an excellent price I'd say compared to his chances of winning, but the public are being sold on this being a 2 horse race between Arrogate and Gun Runner, so there's always a chance he goes off even a little higher than that. Then again, I can't imagine some of the sharp money letting him go off too high. Maybe a half now, half later type of play for you?

Thanks bud. I threw 0.5u at Collected +600 for now. Also taking the tiniest of stabs at Pavel as he jumped up to +5000. @airic_15 mentioned him and after the discussion I'd be kicking myself for not taking the shot.
 
Thanks bud. I threw 0.5u at Collected +600 for now. Also taking the tiniest of stabs at Pavel as he jumped up to +5000. @airic_15 mentioned him and after the discussion I'd be kicking myself for not taking the shot.

You won't ever find too many more naturally talented 50/1 shots than Pavel, so I don't blame you at all for throwing a little something on him. This is a huge ask from him to expect to improve as much as he needs to and beat horses of this quality considering his lack of experience. But you're getting 50/1 on a horse that has already shown some quality and who does have quite a bit of potential for the future.
 
Stellar Wind's 3 races this year;

- Sat just outside of the leader in a 6 horse race while sitting in 2nd over a 48.22 first half mile and grinded the leader down to win by just over a length

- Sat just outside of the leader in a 3 horse race while sitting in 2nd over a 47.66 first half mile (at the notoriously fast Santa Anita track...this is 48+ most anywhere else) and grinded the leader down in the stretch to win by a neck

- Sat just outside of the leader in a 5 horse race while sitting in 2nd over a 48.46 first half mile and grinded the leader down late to again win by just a neck.

Short fields with slow paces and her sitting the perfect stalking trip. It doesn't matter if you're name is Stellar Wind or something else, if you can sit an outside stalking trip on a leader setting a slow pace you're going to win that race maybe 90% of the time. That's the 2nd best position to be in when it comes to racing behind only only a lone speed horse on an easy lead.

In fact, if you go back and look at her last 7 wins she got the same outside stalking trip sitting 2nd in every single one of them. In all 7 she was sitting 2nd at the 1st call, 2nd call, or at both calls, which was the case for most of her wins. In her last 3 races where she wasn't able to get that outside stalking trip in 2nd she has lost every one of them.

With Paradise Woods and Champagne Room in this race, this early pace is very likely to be at least a second, if not 2 seconds, faster than Stellar Wind has been running this year. So if she wants that piece of real estate she is going to have to be on go from the start much more than she has in her recent races. That's if she even gets it because both Paradise Woods and Champagne Room have more natural early speed than her, and it's also a spot that Abel Tasman likes to find herself sitting in as well on occasion.

She's the 5/2 favourite on the morning line in the Distaff with a history of showing she only has one way to win from one particular position on the track. That one way to win being a position that the vast majority of horses are going to win from if sitting that trip. A position on the track that seems she is going to have a hard time finding on Friday, and even if she does, she'll be forced to work a lot harder than she's been used to this year to get it. Just saying.
 
i like cliffs of moher in the turf
it will like the step up in trip on fast ground 16/1 over here, im taking
 
Meh. She's not going to be able to run with Elate in the late going regardless unless she somehow finds herself with a 3+ length advantage as they hit the stretch. Not going to happen unless Elate finds trouble, though. The early running should find them right close to each other with no more than a length separating them as they sit behind the leaders.
 
i like cliffs of moher in the turf
it will like the step up in trip on fast ground 16/1 over here, im taking

Interesting. I was quite curious about studying up some on that guy, but have yet to take much of a look at him yet. With 13 Breeders Cup races featuring something like 150 runners, it's going to be tough finding out the pros & cons of all of them and forming an opinion around it. I'll get to him, though.
 
The Brisnet pace pars for this race are a 94/103/93. Stellar Wind has only ran a race like that once in the last two years and that came just over a year ago. In fact she hasn't ran above par in more than one section of the race since last year's Distaff. Elate, on the other hand, has exceed the pars for all three sections of the race in each of her last two, including being way above the pars for each section in her last race (103/109/102).
 
This 3/1 shot in the Distaff is going to run away with things in this race and win it like she should've been 3/5 instead. Yep.
 
Adding 1u Elate +315 in the Distaff and 0.5u Accelerate +410 in the Dirt Mile.
 
Finished my 2nd and final look at the Dirt Mile race for tomorrow, and I have to say that Awesome Slew looks better to me than I initially thought he would. This guy actually checks the boxes as a contender in all four of the major categories. Those being class, form, speed, and race shape. He also has one of the best jocks in the country riding him, as well as a very good trainer conditioning him if you want to look at secondary stuff like that.

Over his last 8 graded stakes races (G1-G3) he has produced a 2-4-1 record in them with his only off the board finish being a 4th in the Met Mile earlier this year. But that was also a sneaky good race I thought considering the top 2 finishers ran 1-2 around the track over moderate fractions beneficial to them, and Awesome Slew was forced to come way, way wide around the far turn. Still made his run late and almost got up for 3rd. Awesome Slew has also finished in front a lot of good sprint and middle distance horses this year.

He's also in good form right now having finished 2nd, 2nd, and 1st in his last three races. Tomorrow's race will also be his third start off a layoff, and he'll be going into the race after having paired his Brisnet Figures his last two races.

Awesome Slew has ran Brisnet figures of 107 and 105 this year, which puts him just behind what the the top three betting choices have done, and ahead of all the rest. If he can run a similar number tomorrow he'll be a major contender.

The race shape should favour him as well with horses like Sharp Azteca, Mor Spirit and Gato Del Oro entered. Accelerate has also been showing early speed in his last two races, although I would expect that one to sit out of it just a little bit in this race and try to look for a stalk & pounce type trip. There should be a at least a fast pace for Awesome Slew to try to run down late, if not even a very fast pace. A fast pace is something that Awesome Slew hasn't been able to see much of at all this year, yet he has still produced good finishes at the end. He had very little pace to run at in his last race and yet was still able to get to the wire first. The horse he beat in that race, The Player, had everything his own way stalking outside a slow pace, and Awesome Slew was still able to run him down and clear him. The Player is the horse who just came back from that race to win the G2 Fayette over this past weekend, thus flattering Awesome Slew somewhat in the process.

The race before that was the G1 Forego which is a race that Awesome Slew finished 2nd in. But that was the race that the top class sprinter in Drefong got away with an easy uncontested lead in the early going over fairly soft fractions. A horse like Drefong is supposed to win that and win it clearly. yet Awesome Slew still ran very well even if his chances were out the window due to the flow of the race set by a top horse like that. He was clearly the horse that was finishing best in that race besides Drefong, and showed a much better late move than horses like Mind Your Biscuits or Tom's Ready, who just came back this past weekend to take a very good sprint race at Belmont with a strong late kick. Awesome Slew has outkicked Tom's Ready every time they have faced each other I do believe and that one is one of the top closing sprinters in the country.

Awesome Slew's performance this spring at Keeneland in the G2 Commonwealth is I think one of the very best performances a sprinter/middle distance runner has ran this year. The pace was slow considering distance with a group of about 6 horses all bunched up in the early running. Awesome Slew was well behind that group early. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place finishers all being amongst that early group. All those horses were no slouch either as it included Limousine Liberal who was a quality graded stakes sprinter type, as well as AP Indian who's a multiple G1 winning sprinter and was 2nd choice in last year's BC Sprint (he finished 3rd, while Limosine Liberal finished 4th in last year's Sprint). No closers made up any ground late save for Awesome Slew, who mowed them all down in the stretch to win pretty easily despite being up against it as far as race flow went and aginst good horses.

Awesome Slew is 12/1 on the morning line, and with apologies to Practical Joke, looks like the best closer in the race through these eyes (he has late pace figs of 110 & 120 this year whereas Practical Joke is in the 105 range). Awesome Slew is also faster on the figures than Practical Joke overall, and is obviously more proven at this class level against older horses. Practical Joke, being a 3 year-old, does have the upside in his corner, though. But Awesome Slew is twice the price on the morning line odds between the two, and I think a much better bet whether he's worth a win play or an underneath spot in 2nd or 3rd. I'm using him along with Accelerate as my two horses for the race. I pretty much have to use him if he goes off at 12/1.
 
I got the horse who's due
His name is Awesome Slew
The only way he loses is if he's missing a shoe
Can do
Can do
This guy says the horse can do
 
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