Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Heather Jo Clark for #UFCRotterdam

Who wins?


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Of course the plan was actually for Markos to beat KK and get a title shot

And for Moroz to beat Letourneau and get a title shot :d

I disagree, KK was a huge star in KSW. A fight between KK and JJ would be a huge fight in Poland. That's the fight they want, Markos is popular on here, but KK was one of KSW's biggest draws, and KSW does huge ratings in Poland (bigger than the UFC)

KK made more for her UFC debut than Markos made in her third UFC fight (even if you don't count the win bonus) And Markos was on TUF so really it was her 5th UFC fight... which also points to them valuing KK more.
 
Not that I don't believe you, but I keep hearing people mention that Amateur bout with JJ, but I never seen any actual proof.

4th March 2012 ALMMA 18 tournament in Sochaczew, Poland. If you Google almma 18 and their names there are some Polish sites who carried the results. The bout used to be on you tube at one time.
 
Lol no. Its nowhere near that. Stop the hyperbole. Both of the last two title fights were bigger mismatches.

Valerie vs JJ was a mismatch? Val was competitive before tiring and had previously taken Gadelha to split decision, might be the biggest girl in the division and could be top 3. Pretty bad post...
 
I disagree, KK was a huge star in KSW. A fight between KK and JJ would be a huge fight in Poland. That's the fight they want, Markos is popular on here, but KK was one of KSW's biggest draws, and KSW does huge ratings in Poland (bigger than the UFC)

KK made more for her UFC debut than Markos made in her third UFC fight (even if you don't count the win bonus) And Markos was on TUF so really it was her 5th UFC fight... which also points to them valuing KK more.

Good post. KK is arguably more popular in Poland than JJ.
 
I'm incredibly hyped up for this fight! I'm so happy I'm attending this card. I'm buying my tickets tomorrow!
 
Valerie vs JJ was a mismatch? Val was competitive before tiring and had previously taken Gadelha to split decision, might be the biggest girl in the division and could be top 3. Pretty bad post...
despite your nakai blinkers you post sense in this case:D
i do agree that shelby thought moroz was a lock for the next shot though, dont you just love it when he tries to push a flavour of the month and it blows up in his face (pvz cough, cough)
shame he ignores other fighters for months and months.
i dont see why you would need to pad the record of a fighter with 8 wins and no losses, its just a shelbyism.
 
despite your nakai blinkers you post sense in this case:D

Hey now I knew in my heart people were probably right that Holly, Ronda and Cat would annihilate Rin, I just wanted to believe. The Baeforce, man... tragic that it is not real. :(
 
Guess I'm on team Karolina Kontender for this one...

I mean.. Wow..

Hey, it's all about the eyes!!
 
Karolina is freaking beautiful in my opinion. I like Heather Jo Clark too but I'm rooting for Karolina!
 
Im not gonna dump on the matchup with how the division landscape looks. JJ/Gadelha 2 in July and then Torres/Namajunas 2 winner probably is next(unless Gadelha wins then we get a trilogy). I would say Calderwood, Waterson and Lima fights all make more sense, but KK is gonna need 3 wins to get a shot anyways so i dont mind a showcase fight.

Lot of inactive fighters in that division clogging up the rankings, especially the girls JJ has fought recently.

Her last 4 opponents

Gadelha-fought JJ in December 2014, fought Aguilar in August 15' and now another long lay off and she'll fight JJ again in July
Esparza-hasnt fought since she lost to JJ in March of 2015 and has no fight booked
Penne-hasnt fought since she lost to JJ in Berlin in June 2015 and has no fight booked
Letorneau-hasnt fought since loss to JJ in November and no fight booked

Should do Esparza vs Markos, Penne vs Calderwood, Letorneau vs Waterson and PVZ vs Rawlings and Lima vs Daly
Good scraps all. Decent matches skillwise, if not UFC-rankings-wise.

I personally think Heather Jo makes a fight of this.

Oh, here is a picture of Karolina wondering if her nails are dry yet:

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And as for Heather Jo Clark, um......

... here is a picture she took of Michelle Waterson. (Heather is a great photographer. Really)

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Good post. KK is arguably more popular in Poland than JJ.

Yep. I remember YEARS ago seeing that Karolina had 10 of thousands of Facebook followers and being surprised. I guess she has been on Polish TV shows and everything. Cool to see some of these fighters who have been around a long time getting a chance in the UFC and doing well.
 
Yep. I remember YEARS ago seeing that Karolina had 10 of thousands of Facebook followers and being surprised. I guess she has been on Polish TV shows and everything. Cool to see some of these fighters who have been around a long time getting a chance in the UFC and doing well.

Poland know's what's up

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What kind of shit match making is this? How does KK go from beating a Top 10 girl in Randa Markos, to fighting Heather who is not even in the Top 15?

KK should be facing Jessica Penne, Valerie Letourneau, or Carla Esparza .. she even asked for Carla. KK is ranked #5 in the world, this is a garbage match up, and I like Heather, but this is not the fight that I wanted to see KK getting. What in the mother of all fekks would this win do for Karolina?

Nada. :confused:
 
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Valerie vs JJ was a mismatch? Val was competitive before tiring and had previously taken Gadelha to split decision, might be the biggest girl in the division and could be top 3. Pretty bad post...

I just looked up the odds for that fight. They closed at -2200/+700

Pretty bad post...
 
Not that I don't believe you, but I keep hearing people mention that Amateur bout with JJ, but I never seen any actual proof.

I've seen a video clip of the actual finish, but I haven't seen a published record of the fight any where.
 
I just looked up the odds for that fight. They closed at -2200/+700

Pretty bad post...

I think watching how the fight went carries more weight than bookie odds...

Barao vs TJ was a pretty big mismatch in the favorite's favor I guess, along with Cain vs Werdum, Pettis vs RDA, and Ronda vs Holly.

Literally shit post. PS. bookies make odds based on how they expect people to bet not the actual likelihood of each fighter winning. But everybody already knew that except you, fightdontthink.
 
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I think watching how the fight went carries more weight than bookie odds...

Barao vs TJ was a pretty big mismatch in the favorite's favor I guess, along with Cain vs Werdum, Pettis vs RDA, and Ronda vs Holly.

Literally shit post.

Stupid reasoning that make no sense, since we haven't seen Karolina vs. Heather yet. Or are you from the future?
 
Stupid reasoning that make no sense, since we haven't seen Karolina vs. Heather yet. Or are you from the future?

I didn't say anything about knowing whether Karolina vs Heather is an actual mismatch, I'm saying still calling Val vs JJ a mismatch due to bookie odds after seeing it is stupid, fightdontthink.

And as I said bookies make odds based on how they expect people to bet not directly based on the likelihood of each fighter winning.
 
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