Elections Kari Lake pulling ahead

[calavera2]

She lost by just over half a percent. Should be recounted and if she loses I don’t think her opponent should float much. You won by an incredibly tiny margin. You aren’t that popular and better watch out for her next time, if she doesn’t become a Fox News anchor

Yhea no, fuck off with your recount and your hurt feelings

 

[idrankyourbeer]

"I'm quite concerned that it was a fair election" LMAO

well if James said so then i'm convinced

Yhea no, fuck off with your recount and your hurt feelings

im down for a recount. i havent seen kari lake and blake masters lose arizona enough times this election. lets call up the cyber ninjas and push for 8! all aboard losers, we're going losing!

 

[HARRISON_3]

Did she win?

 

[Culombo]

Kari's trolling, just like Trump, because they'd rather foment distrust in the system rather than accept a legitimate loss.

nothing legitimate about counting votes for a week after an election ... leaves too much room for shenanigans .. there's no good reason to be counting votes for a week after an election if it's legitimate .. one day ? maybe .. a week gtfoh .. only reasons are incompetence, faulty system, or fraud .. it's election day not election week ... every single one of these elections that took that long to finalize all look funny in the light .. every single one

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Fortification makes it so you can't tell the diff during a recount.

 

[calavera2]

nothing legitimate about counting votes for a week after an election ... leaves too much room for shenanigans .. there's no good reason to be counting votes for a week after an election if it's legitimate .. one day ? maybe .. a week gtfoh .. only reasons are incompetence, faulty system, or fraud .. it's election day not election week ... every single one of these elections that took that long to finalize all look funny in the light .. every single one

You shouldn't be given the time of day,. Just told to stfu and sit in the corner. Why, because nothing will ever be enough unless you guys get your way.

 

[cincymma79]

Yhea no, fuck off with your recount and your hurt feelings

Neat

 

[Fake Doctor]

Well, this is great. Seriously.

"PHOENIX -- Outgoing Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich is demanding answers from Maricopa County about what he said appear to be violations of state election law.
In a letter Saturday, his office says it has received "hundreds of complaints'' about how the county administered the General Election.
"These complaints go beyond pure speculation, but include first-hand witness accounts that raise concerns regarding Maricopa's lawful compliance with Arizona election law,'' wrote Jennifer Wright. She heads the agency's Elections Integrity Unit.
"Furthermore, statements made by both Chairman (Bill) Gates and Recorder (Stephen) Richer, along with information Maricopa County released through official modes of communication appear to confirm potential statutory violations of Title 16,'' she said, referring to the state Elections Code.
Wright also hinted that the investigation could hold up finalizing the election returns.
"These issues relate to Maricopa County's ability to lawfully certify election results,'' she said. So she wants answers to her questions on or before Nov. 28, the date the county is scheduled to submit its official canvass of the votes to the Secretary of State's Office.
The letter comes as Republican gubernatorial hopeful Kari Lake, whose results already show she lost to Democrat Katie Hobbs, continued to insist that GOP voters were disenfranchised and that the election results cannot be certified. Lake also said she is consulting with lawyers about her options."

Arizona attorney general questions Maricopa County election process (kawc.org)

Got to say, as an outsider, what is going on in Arizona looks like third world shit. It should get an easy applause from both sides that this is being looked into.

Now, I fully expect this will come back with no change to who is voted in. Honestly, Republicans, you're likely not getting what you want from this as far as election results go... But if you actually care about having people trust the elections, and this goes for people on both sides, having explanations for what a clusterfuck the Arizona election was should be considered a big win for America as a whole.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Well, this is great. Seriously.

"PHOENIX -- Outgoing Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich is demanding answers from Maricopa County about what he said appear to be violations of state election law.
In a letter Saturday, his office says it has received "hundreds of complaints'' about how the county administered the General Election.
"These complaints go beyond pure speculation, but include first-hand witness accounts that raise concerns regarding Maricopa's lawful compliance with Arizona election law,'' wrote Jennifer Wright. She heads the agency's Elections Integrity Unit.
"Furthermore, statements made by both Chairman (Bill) Gates and Recorder (Stephen) Richer, along with information Maricopa County released through official modes of communication appear to confirm potential statutory violations of Title 16,'' she said, referring to the state Elections Code.
Wright also hinted that the investigation could hold up finalizing the election returns.
"These issues relate to Maricopa County's ability to lawfully certify election results,'' she said. So she wants answers to her questions on or before Nov. 28, the date the county is scheduled to submit its official canvass of the votes to the Secretary of State's Office.
The letter comes as Republican gubernatorial hopeful Kari Lake, whose results already show she lost to Democrat Katie Hobbs, continued to insist that GOP voters were disenfranchised and that the election results cannot be certified. Lake also said she is consulting with lawyers about her options."

Arizona attorney general questions Maricopa County election process (kawc.org)

Got to say, as an outsider, what is going on in Arizona looks like third world shit. It should get an easy applause from both sides that this is being looked into.

Now, I fully expect this will come back with no change to who is voted in. Honestly, Republicans, you're likely not getting what you want from this as far as election results go... But if you actually care about having people trust the elections, and this goes for people on both sides, having explanations for what a clusterfuck the Arizona election was should be considered a big win for America as a whole.

Plus, for you to consider, not only was the person in charge of the entire election one of the candidates that benefitted from these issues. But the two people directly responsible for the failures had started an Anti-MAGA PAC. Seems like conflict of interests from all of them, lol.




By the way, Lake's campaign manager said this wasn't even filed on their behalf. The AG did this because they are receiving so many complaints.

edit: and here is the official letter

 

[cottagecheesefan]

By the way, for anyone following this. Reason Kari Lake's campaign hasn't been able to do more at this point is because Maricopa is still counting lol. So results are not even in yet. How are they still counting? But certification date is 11/28, so one argument is they slow walking official count so there is not much time between finish counting and certification to limit legal fights before certification. With thanks giving this week, that only leaves 3-4 business days until certification date

Lake's team was going to do some legal fights of their own this week, and as I said, they were not even aware the AG was going to do this.



However, the AG's letter not only mentions the irregularities people have shown on social media and submitted via affidavidt, but also actual election violations on how it was handled.

Moreover, other counties that did not have similar problems are saying their voters will also be disenfranchised based on how shitty Maricopa was ran, so at least a couple counties sayin they do not believe they can certify.

Not sure the full process, but Hobbs does certify it overall, not sure if she can if some counties don't? Will also be interesting to see if the AG does try to do something, if Garland and company will try to threaten the state.

And none of this is CT or anything, just the facts of what is happening at the moment in AZ. Where it goes? who knows

 

[Ruke Doufus]

By the way, for anyone following this. Reason Kari Lake's campaign hasn't been able to do more at this point is because Maricopa is still counting lol. So results are not even in yet. How are they still counting? But certification date is 11/28, so one argument is they slow walking official count so there is not much time between finish counting and certification to limit legal fights before certification. With thanks giving this week, that only leaves 3-4 business days until certification date

Lake's team was going to do some legal fights of their own this week, and as I said, they were not even aware the AG was going to do this.



However, the AG's letter not only mentions the irregularities people have shown on social media and submitted via affidavidt, but also actual election violations on how it was handled.

Moreover, other counties that did not have similar problems are saying their voters will also be disenfranchised based on how shitty Maricopa was ran, so at least a couple counties sayin they do not believe they can certify.

Not sure the full process, but Hobbs does certify it overall, not sure if she can if some counties don't? Will also be interesting to see if the AG does try to do something, if Garland and company will try to threaten the state.

And none of this is CT or anything, just the facts of what is happening at the moment in AZ. Where it goes? who knows

Regardless of the result, it's easy to get behind anything that clears up this abomination of an election process. There's no reason it should take this long or be this convoluted unless gross incompetence or foul play, both of which have no place in an election.

 

[Fake Doctor]

Plus, for you to consider, not only was the person in charge of the entire election one of the candidates that benefitted from these issues. But the two people directly responsible for the failures had started an Anti-MAGA PAC. Seems like conflict of interests from all of them, lol.




By the way, Lake's campaign manager said this wasn't even filed on their behalf. The AG did this because they are receiving so many complaints.

edit: and here is the official letter

Well, this is the thing. From an outside perspective this election looks like the people running it were utterly incompetent. For starters, people involved in the election stand to benefit by certain results, and people overseeing procedures have a strong motivation against one candidate. That in itself is eyebrow raising but fair enough, I guess it happens, if it's all on the up up... But that's really the question, isn't it? When you have a slew of technical issues - some of which leave you scratching their head as to how someone could be so fucking stupid, paired with people being told to put their ballots into some box to be verified later, when you have account after account coming out of people saying "I couldn't vote," getting turned away from the polls and told to come back later, and so on, it's... Well, it looks sketchy as all hell.

I strongly, strongly suspect this will not lead to anything significant, but if you care about people trusting these elections, you need to publicly sort through what happened. There is far too much questionable shit going on around these elections and, in an environment where people are already skeptical of elections, a refusal to treat this seriously strongly suggests what I already suspect - that the other team thinks having the other side skeptical of elections lets them playing the "election denier!" card which is a winner for them politically. That's short term political gain trumping long term political healthy 101.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Well, this is the thing. From an outside perspective this election looks like the people running it were utterly incompetent. For starters, people involved in the election stand to benefit by certain results, and people overseeing procedures have a strong motivation against one candidate. That in itself is eyebrow raising but fair enough, I guess it happens, if it's all on the up up... But that's really the question, isn't it? When you have a slew of technical issues - some of which leave you scratching their head as to how someone could be so fucking stupid, paired with people being told to put their ballots into some box to be verified later, when you have account after account coming out of people saying "I couldn't vote," getting turned away from the polls and told to come back later, and so on, it's... Well, it looks sketchy as all hell.

I strongly, strongly suspect this will not lead to anything significant, but if you care about people trusting these elections, you need to publicly sort through what happened. There is far too much questionable shit going on around these elections and, in an environment where people are already skeptical of elections, a refusal to treat this seriously strongly suggests what I already suspect - that the other team thinks having the other side skeptical of elections lets them playing the "election denier!" card which is a winner for them politically. That's short term political gain trumping long term political healthy 101.

Agreed on every part pretty much outside of maybe I think it was 100% deliberate vs mostly incompetence.

As for where this goes, I agree for the most part as well, though the AG letter actually took me by surprise this weekend. I been following the post election fallout but hadn't posted in here because I don't expect any change in the result, so why argue with people I'll never agree with about the election being a joke.

But the AG's letter is going to embolden counties other than Maricopa to not want to certify and lay the ground work for an uncertifiable election, which his office already is demanding answers about, that way they will know how to proceed.

The legal framework for those counties not certifying because of Maricopa is already laid out though as it would be very similar to the case that was brought to the supreme court with a number of states contesting 2020 election because they felt their states were disenfranchised by how poorly ran the swing states were. Of course that case was dismissed because it was after the fact of cerification... this is not.

I also don't know how much/if Hobbs can overstep counties not wanting to certify.. as even before the AG's letter 1 or 2 already were saying they were not going to. At a certain point, Gov Ducey will have to say something. Not sure if he has yet.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

@Fake Doctor Yup, just came out, as I was saying even before this broke. Another county saying they will not certify until 11/28, pending response to AG's letter. So up to at least 3-4 counties now pushing for this. It might come down to a state constitutional crisis that willl have to have to governor, legislature, among others come in, and I don't think Hobbs can stop it if they gain momentum. And the AG is already involved, so they better have a good explination as to what happened.

But I do not think they will be able to over come the clear evidence of disenfranchisment, wide scale. So it is going to be a crisis indeed. Plus Maricopa County didn't even accurately report the number of outages. They were ike "well, maybe 20%".... but it is literally haf of all polling locations/tabulators/printers lol... so even that they lied.

These people are clowns and it looks like they are about to be called out big time. And this is shit they are on record lying about and have also clearly broken election rules.


edit: This data guru guy is an AZ local ABC affilate election pundit, just for reference. So it is legit info.





edit: LOL this fucking loser already coming out to try and OK/get ahead of the narrative they might have to come out and redo the election. Hey buddy, you are now saying they cannot certify the election without all the counties agreeing.

 

[cooks1]

nothing legitimate about counting votes for a week after an election ... leaves too much room for shenanigans .. there's no good reason to be counting votes for a week after an election if it's legitimate .. one day ? maybe .. a week gtfoh .. only reasons are incompetence, faulty system, or fraud .. it's election day not election week ... every single one of these elections that took that long to finalize all look funny in the light .. every single one

Arizona's Republican Governors, Republican Senates, and Republican HOR's passed the laws that govern Arizona's elections. And as someone who has lived in Arizona before, I can tell you it has been like this in AZ, exactly like this, for a long, long time. And Republicans gave no shits about it until they started losing elections.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Oh wow, Marc Elias, the DNC person behind Russia Hoax is now stepping in to solve the crisis! Democracy is saved! You have to accept a bullshit election. Any democrat claiming they want deocracy is a clear liar at this point. If they see this stuff happening in real time and refuse to call it out, they are everything they wish Trump was. It is clear as day.

Arent they suppose to be the party to combat voter disenfranchisement? Here it is in real time, and they want to be fascists and crush all dissent.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

**Breaking** So two weeks later, comes out after them calling the election, that it is now too close to call.. despite all the other tom foolery. Great job Arizona. I am sure @Deorum is proud of AZ with all this lol.

Oh, and there is an undervote error with this latest batch too, lovely. LOL

 

[idrankyourbeer]

they havent called the race for the democrat, and the rube is still in it. the cottage cheese guy not sure if he should blow his fraud whistle or deem it a free and fair election just yet.

i dont see abraham hamadeh blowing his fraud whistle and doing his maga virtue signal. his name was on the same ballots as kari lake, blake masters, and all those other rubes who had their elections "stolen" from them because more people voted for the democrat in that race.

i guess those cheatin' libs must have forgot to rig the attorney general race, but they clearly stolen everything else, well except for those one or two house seats the rubes kept because its only a free and fair election if they win, and democracy must be rejected it they dont.

but keep it up cheesebrains with your big "this is it" moment. this is another nothing burger that will make for some good material to bring up next month after the elections get certified to their rightful winners. theyre not redoing any elections. . theyre not throwing out thousands or millions of peoples votes - even though they probably should in mohave county since theyre the ones making a stink and rejecting their elections - despite kari lake having the highest % of votes in mohave county then anywhere else - and now its going to cost the mohave county taxpayers for an action they know is going to be litigated, and nobody is throwing out democracy for a bunch of random nobodies like kari lake and blake masters just because they kiss diaper don's ass and are unhappy that they lost their elections.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Wow, attorney now saying it even more wide spread than the report that stated it was more wide spread than initially reported

 

[idrankyourbeer]

this is it! (we really need a counter for these things)

oann? hey didnt ruby freeman and her daughter just sue the shit out of those guys over their election fantasies and fairy tales?

looks like dominion and smartmatic are going to give those guys a nice thrashing too, after the judges ruled the other week that both of their lawsuits can move forward. they didnt even want to settle this one out of court, they dont want table scraps. they want their whole piggy bank!