Just to add to the conversation, the other thing also that CFGroup fails to recognize when he says "I call it MT because of it's lack of mobility" and "stagnant stalling by the MT guy waiting for that toe to toe bash fest they're use to and honestly very good at...." is that in traditional Muay Thai like you see in the stadiums, standing your ground and pushing the action (aggressiveness) is highly regarded in terms of scoring, hence why you might see 2 guys standing in front of each other banging back and forth. When Muay Thai fighters fight under different rule sets or scoring systems they tend to use a lot more footwork and movement. Here's another example I was watching earlier, Sagat Petchyindee (MT fighter) vs. Peter Cunningham who was undefeated in Kickboxing:
You can see Sagat using distancing and movement, and not just trying to stand and bang.
Not going to rise to the bait cause I can scroll back and see how much you like to argue...
Unwittingly you posted a perfect example of what my overall point is, so thank you!
Great clip of how distance fighters need to compensate for "Toe to toe bashfest MT" God people get their panties in a bunch from that phrase, LOL!
As I said it was humbling to KB with MT based guys back in the day because they r use to absorbing tons of damage on the expectation they will inflict more where my training was to inflict damage and try to avoid it...
I filled my gaps by incorporating months of leg kick training and most importantly absorbing the tactic subconsciously as a default. After slowing down pressure fighters ether with damage or faints to their legs it's easier to snipe from distance, but you have to slow them down first and with TKD background, training heavily in leg kicking becomes just as fluid as going high.
I will almost say to the letter in MMA go to the legs if the other fighter has heavy hands. 2 McGregor v Diaz is a recent example. I'd even say for Thompson v Woodley, Thompson could be cracking away at Woodley's legs, to negate that power rush he's famous for. Pettis could have perfected the same tactic as well. There are countless examples I could post of that tactic. People just forget or have coaches who want to impose their wills instead of recognizing the advantages of the other fighter and executing a camp that work around them.
Holy crap, I'm going to repeat this again, I prefer snipping from distance and inflicting damage while avoiding it. If guys want to go toe to toe than I'm going to slow them down as aggressively as I can and attack their legs to slow them down and then to return to my comfort zone of using distance footwork.
Shit I got sucked in, LOL!
But I'm not going to argue cause this is a thread on Karate BB's in MMA.
Peace!
