Kanye West has been red pilled

[panamaican]

I answered your question

I'm asking for links showing the changes Trump/sessions have made to prison terms that affect black folks

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-private-prison-campaign-donors-leaked-memo-795681

You can find the song on most streaming apps, I don't know if it's on youtube and I don't know how to embed soundcloud and things like that.
https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/alb...-the-people/1377984289?i=1377984290&app=music

 

[nac386]

Wait. So not meeting David Duke is worse than meeting Farrakhan while you are a Senator?
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Obama met Farrakhan at the Congression Black Caucus, it was a chance meeting. Ronald Reagan met Farrakhan too, who cares. Neither of them voiced support for Farrakhan, politicians meet all types of bad people. But Obama condemns Farrakhan, repeatedly. Always has.

The problem with Trump and Duke, is that Trump pretended not know who Duke was to avoid condemning him. He played dumb, really dumb, like astonishingly dumb. Now why would he do that? I want your honest opinion on some of these things. Why do you think Trump acted like he was not familiar with David Duke?

 

[58miles]

Obama met Farrakhan at the Congression Black Caucus, it was a chance meeting. Ronald Reagan met Farrakhan too, who cares. Neither of them voiced support for Farrakhan, politicians meet all types of bad people. But Obama condemns Farrakhan, repeatedly. Always has.

The problem with Trump and Duke, is that Trump pretended not know who Duke was to avoid condemning him. He played dumb, really dumb, like astonishingly dumb. Now why would he do that? I want your honest opinion on some of these things. Why do you think Trump acted like he was not familiar with David Duke?

If Trump is only playing dumb it's an Oscar winning performance.

 

[SBJJ]

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-private-prison-campaign-donors-leaked-memo-795681

You can find the song on most streaming apps, I don't know if it's on youtube and I don't know how to embed soundcloud and things like that.
https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/alb...-the-people/1377984289?i=1377984290&app=music

Wait. That's what u are at complaining about. Possible privatization of some prisons.

 

[panamaican]

Wait. That's what u are at complaining about. Possible privatization of some prisons.

I'm not complaining about anything. Why do you keep trying to make this conversation about me?

 

[SBJJ]

Obama met Farrakhan at the Congression Black Caucus, it was a chance meeting. Ronald Reagan met Farrakhan too, who cares. Neither of them voiced support for Farrakhan, politicians meet all types of bad people. But Obama condemns Farrakhan, repeatedly. Always has.

The problem with Trump and Duke, is that Trump pretended not know who Duke was to avoid condemning him. He played dumb, really dumb, like astonishingly dumb. Now why would he do that? I want your honest opinion on some of these things. Why do you think Trump acted like he was not familiar with David Duke?

So playing dumb about someone is worse than meeting them?

REALLY? Kinda seems crazy

You seem to be reaching big time with this man

But whatever. I'm pretty sure both Obama and Trump are flawed men. In different ways. We just disagree I guess. No biggie

Here's what Farrakhan thought of obamas denouncing



Here he is talking about the CHANCE encounter

 

[SBJJ]

I'm not complaining about anything. Why do you keep trying to make this conversation about me?

It was your posts. So u are not complaining about this? Ok, we are cool then.

 

[panamaican]

It was your posts. So u are not complaining about this? Ok, we are cool then.

What I've been saying repeatedly it feels like is that Kanye's lyrics don't align with this administration. Kanye's lyrics, this administration. The discussion was about the response to Kanye's recent vocal support for the Trump administration. Some people seemed surprised that Kanye's position generated backlash. As part of the context for that backlash, I've been posting about how any lengthy follower of Kanye's music would notice that Kanye's music makes a poor fit for several elements of this administration in specific and right wing politics in general.

None of my posts are about my opinion on Trump, the GOP, Democrats, etc. They are commentary on the intersection of Kanye's music and Kanye's politics.

Have you had a chance to listen to the song yet since I linked it (I think).

 

[SBJJ]

What I've been saying repeatedly it feels like is that Kanye's lyrics don't align with this administration. Kanye's lyrics, this administration. The discussion was about the response to Kanye's recent vocal support for the Trump administration. Some people seemed surprised that Kanye's position generated backlash. As part of the context for that backlash, I've been posting about how any lengthy follower of Kanye's music would notice that Kanye's music makes a poor fit for several elements of this administration in specific and right wing politics in general.

None of my posts are about my opinion on Trump, the GOP, Democrats, etc. They are commentary on the intersection of Kanye's music and Kanye's politics.

Have you had a chance to listen to the song yet since I linked it (I think).

I listened to it and got absolutely nothing from it. Except it's a horrible song

They don't even speak about positions

 

[panamaican]

I listened to it and got absolutely nothing from it. Except it's a horrible song

They don't even speak about positions

The entire song is about the subject of this thread. It's literally Kanye explaining his position and T.I. rapping about why it's a bad decision. They both delve into the surrounding social issues as perceived within the hip hop community and the black community.

I'm surprised that you got nothing out of it since it's literally the most germane commentary on this issue that you're going to find.

 

[Viva]

As opposed to all of the highly thought out criticism of Obama from winger celebs? Of course LeBron intelligence isn't in the same league as noted policy experts like TED Nugent and Scott Baio

Whats your point?

They're jackasses as well.

 

[SBJJ]

The entire song is about the subject of this thread. It's literally Kanye explaining his position and T.I. rapping about why it's a bad decision. They both delve into the surrounding social issues as perceived within the hip hop community and the black community.

I'm surprised that you got nothing out of it since it's literally the most germane commentary on this issue that you're going to find.

Uhhhh. They talk about NO REAL issues dude. They just go back and forth about how Trump sounds and Kayne has love.

Seriously maybe I missed it. But I heard no ACTUAL issues discussed. And it could be the worst song I've ever listened to

 

[SBJJ]

Whats your point?

They're jackasses as well.

That's my take. They are like trolls.

 

[panamaican]

Uhhhh. They talk about NO REAL issues dude. They just go back and forth about how Trump sounds and Kayne has love.

Seriously maybe I missed it. But I heard no ACTUAL issues discussed. And it could be the worst song I've ever listened to

They weren't discussing issues. They were discussing Kanye, Kanye's position and society's response to Kanye's position. Which is what I thought this thread is about?

 

[SBJJ]

They weren't discussing issues. They were discussing Kanye, Kanye's position and society's response to Kanye's position. Which is what I thought this thread is about?

But u said it would show why Kayne should not support Trump.

Lol. I'm seriously done man. That song was beyond horrible and showed absolutely nothing of substance.

I could see how trumps stance on immigration alone could sway Black Anericans to his side. So I don't sweat if a black man supports him or doesn't support him

I think it's wrong to attack Kayne for simply supporting him. Others think differently. Oh well

 

[panamaican]

But u said it would show why Kayne should not support Trump.

Lol. I'm seriously done man. That song was beyond horrible and showed absolutely nothing of substance.

I could see how trumps stance on immigration alone could sway Black Anericans to his side. So I don't sweat if a black man supports him or doesn't support him

I think it's wrong to attack Kayne for simply supporting him. Others think differently. Oh well

No, I never said that. I asked if you had listened to it. If you think it's wrong for people to attack Kanye then the song would have provided more insight into the conversation surrounding that subject.

People don't understand black America if they think the immigration conversation will sway black America in either direction. That's people projecting their reasoning onto the collective black America.

 

[SBJJ]

No, I never said that. I asked if you had listened to it. If you think it's wrong for people to attack Kanye then the song would have provided more insight into the conversation surrounding that subject.

People don't understand black America if they think the immigration conversation will sway black America in either direction. That's people projecting their reasoning onto the collective black America.

Uhhhhh. I'm black and grew up in a 90% black neighborhood. So I'm speaking from my actual experiences

U also did say his songs didn't go along with him supporting Trump.

The song just did not provide any insight as it was very empty. But maybe we just disagree

 

[Jack V Savage]

Al Sharpton met with George Bush too. Is there something wrong with meeting Al Sharpton?

Only if you're black. Then it means that you agree with his wrongthink.

 

[nac386]

So playing dumb about someone is worse than meeting them?

REALLY? Kinda seems crazy

I think it's obviously worse. I don't have any issue with people meeting. Trump has met mobsters, criminals, rapists, etc. Meeting somebody is just meeting somebody. Like I said, Ronald Regan met Farrakhan too, who cares. You can meet somebody, and disagree with them.

I do have an issue with directly pandering to hate groups, white supremacists, etc.
Obama did not play dumb about Farrakhan, he directly condemned him. Trump played dumb, in an effort to avoid condemning the KKK. He played so dumb that it seemed like a spoof. It was unrealistically dumb. Ground breakingly dumb.

Give it another look. At 1:00, it's unbelievable.

 

[SBJJ]

I think it's obviously worse. I don't have any issue with people meeting. Trump has met mobsters, criminals, rapists, etc. Meeting somebody is just meeting somebody. Like I said, Ronald Regan met Farrakhan too, who cares. You can meet somebody, and disagree with them.

I do have an issue with directly pandering to hate groups, white supremacists, etc.
Obama did not play dumb about Farrakhan, he directly condemned him. Trump played dumb, in an effort to avoid condemning the KKK. He played so dumb that it seemed like a spoof. It was unrealistically dumb. Ground breakingly dumb.

Give it another look. At 1:00, it's unbelievable.

You literally did not view the links I posted. It was NOT a chance meeting. It would be like Trump SEEKING out David Duke. I'm not going to continue this. You were misinformed when u said Obama had a chance encounter with him. That's wrong, he went to his office

That video shows Trump to be an arrogant asshole who seems to not want to admit anyone bad would endorse him. That's pretty damn bad. And it shows how flawed he is.

Just like Obama SEEKING a meeting with a known racist is pretty damn bad.

You were wrong on this chance meeting. But it still doesn't mean Obama is evil. It just meant he was willing to seek a meeting with a racist because they agree on some issues