Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[luckyshot]

How ironic is it that Kamala would most likely ban TikTok if she becomes president, despite her team obsessively using the platform to portray her as relatable.

It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

 

[filthybliss]

So trumps been more powerful than your president the entire time ?

More like republicans are shutting down any border blocking legislature because they want to "own" the libs instead of take care of business. I don't get this gotcha moment, it is no secret that Trump has more diehard shills than any politician in 2024, whether it is constituted as "power" is dependent on your personal interpretation.

House GOP says revived border bill "dead on arrival" as Senate plans vote

House Republican leadership said a Senate effort to revive a once-failed border security measure is "dead on arrival" in the lower chamber. But the legislation may not make it out of the Senate.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Jacket time]

More like republicans are shutting down any border blocking legislature because they want to "own" the libs instead of take care of business. I don't get this gotcha moment, it is no secret that Trump has more diehard shills than any politician in 2024, whether it is constituted as "power" is dependent on your personal interpretation.

House GOP says revived border bill "dead on arrival" as Senate plans vote

House Republican leadership said a Senate effort to revive a once-failed border security measure is "dead on arrival" in the lower chamber. But the legislation may not make it out of the Senate.

www.cbsnews.com

We want to repel Illegals
You want to process Illegals with benefits

 

[nostradumbass]

Look up the meaning of "universal."

So like I said, you are voting to impose your views on states you don't live in who don't vote the way you want them to.

 

[Anewt]

More like republicans are shutting down any border blocking legislature because they want to "own" the libs instead of take care of business. I don't get this gotcha moment, it is no secret that Trump has more diehard shills than any politician in 2024, whether it is constituted as "power" is dependent on your personal interpretation.

House GOP says revived border bill "dead on arrival" as Senate plans vote

House Republican leadership said a Senate effort to revive a once-failed border security measure is "dead on arrival" in the lower chamber. But the legislation may not make it out of the Senate.

www.cbsnews.com

It's not a got ya. Im curious if people really think trump wields that much power

You say republicans are trying to own the libs by the border bill not passing ( didn't that bill have a awful lot of other decisions included?
Billions for ukraine etc?)

 

[filthybliss]

It's not a got ya. Im curious if people really think trump wields that much power

You say republicans are trying to own the libs by the border bill not passing ( didn't that bill have a awful lot of other decisions included?
Billions for ukraine etc?)

It was the most conservative border security bill in eons. Considering by default that a decent chunk of republicans are already on board with Ukranian aid, I don't think that was the deal breaker either.

Majority of Non-Trump Republicans Support Continued Aid to Ukraine

Republicans with a somewhat favorable or unfavorable view of the former president are more likely to say US assistance to Kyiv has been worth the cost.

globalaffairs.org

Also, Lankford received harassment from MAGA media outlets for trying to push it through despite being a republican so there is that.

As His Border Deal Dies, a G.O.P. Senator Laments the Forces Against It (Published 2024)

Senator James Lankford pleaded with his party not to let politics trump policy, recounting opposition including a right-wing media personality who vowed to do “whatever I can to destroy you.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[luckyshot]

So like I said, you are voting to impose your views on states you don't live in who don't vote the way you want them to.

As you know, states cannot violate the civil rights of individuals. I feel there is no more basic civil right than the right to autonomy over your own body, and I feel that should be enshrined into law. If this is imposing a view over the majority of a particular state, so be it. Same thing had to be done to legalize gay marriage, abolish slavery, give minorities the right to vote, etc.

 

[Strychnine]

She's not? She just got foisted to the top of the ticket because the "president" was deemed incompetent. Who's running the country right now?

The Democrats controlled the house and senate with this administration. They used that power to pass the "Inflation Reduction Act" which resulted in the IRS being even more aggressive in going after taxes for tips.

So, she's President Harris now?

Did I just wake up from a 5-month coma? Come on man.

The GOP has control of the House, that's why the Speaker of the House is a Republican. More IRS agents going after millionaires and billionaires is a great thing.

 

[Strychnine]

So trumps been more powerful than your president the entire time ?

Nah, he just has cultists that he told to say "no", and they did. Also, don't pretend that you don't know how Congress works.

 

[nostradumbass]

As you know, states cannot violate the civil rights of individuals. I feel there is no more basic civil right than the right to autonomy over your own body, and I feel that should be enshrined into law. If this is imposing a view over the majority of a particular state, so be it. Same thing had to be done to legalize gay marriage, abolish slavery, give minorities the right to vote, etc.

You calling killing babies a "civil right" doesn't make it so. Where are you on kids who die of neglect? Should the parents be free to kill their kids from neglect, or does having a baby come with an obligation to care for it?

 

[DoctorTaco]

calling killing babies

What do you mean when you say “babies”?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Proof? Or is this just one of those “fire, ready, AIM!” Situations?

 

[luckyshot]

You calling killing babies a "civil right" doesn't make it so. Where are you on kids who die of neglect? Should the parents be free to kill their kids from neglect, or does having a baby come with an obligation to care for it?

Wow, I expected the normal lazy rhetoric about "rights of the unborn" rather than the ULTRA lazy rhetoric of "killing babies."

Let's just cut to the chase: at some point an ejaculation becomes an individual. At what point is that? There is no good answer: arguments could be made for fertilization, implantation, certain developmental milestones, viability, and paturation. None of these arguments is more "scientific" than another, so there is no scientific answer to this question. Ultimately, this means it is a religious question in the broadcast sense of the term religion: a question of personal belief and faith.

But once a baby is born, it gets a birth certificate and a Social Security number. At that point it is an individual with rights that cannot be disputed.

Next question.

 

[Snubnoze707]

The GOP has control of the House, that's why the Speaker of the House is a Republican. More IRS agents going after millionaires and billionaires is a great thing.

That's why I specifically said "controlled" and while they had that power they pushed through this nonsense which didn't crack down on millionaires and billionaires but DID crack down on ordinary citizens and service worker tips.

IRS introduces new service industry tip reporting program​

IRS introduces new service industry tip reporting program | Internal Revenue Service

IR-2023-19, Feb. 6, 2023 — The Treasury Department and Internal Revenue Service today issued Notice 2023-13, which contains a proposed revenue procedure that would establish the Service Industry Tip Compliance Agreement (SITCA) program, a voluntary tip reporting program between the IRS and...

www.irs.gov

IRS audits the poor at 5 times the rate of everyone else, analysis finds​

IRS audits the poor at 5 times the rate of everyone else, analysis finds

Taxpayers who earn less than $25,000 are far more likely to get audited by the IRS than wealthier people.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[White Whale]

Kamala Harris says we know what we need to do to secure the border. She was vice president and border tzar what were they doing the past three and half years.

 

[nostradumbass]

Wow, I expected the normal lazy rhetoric about "rights of the unborn" rather than the ULTRA lazy rhetoric of "killing babies."

Let's just cut to the chase: at some point an ejaculation becomes an individual. At what point is that? There is no good answer: arguments could be made for fertilization, implantation, certain developmental milestones, viability, and paturation. None of these arguments is more "scientific" than another, so there is no scientific answer to this question. Ultimately, this means it is a religious question in the broadcast sense of the term religion: a question of personal belief and faith.

But once a baby is born, it gets a birth certificate and a Social Security number. At that point it is an individual with rights that cannot be disputed.

Next question.

Wow, I expected the lazy "it's the woman's body, bro" argument, which you've already made, and instead you brought the ULTRA lazy "I don't understand where babies come from, so it's just faith".

If you support abortion on demand all the way up until they get a social security number, by all means, then throw that up on the website. If you think 3rd trimester abortions are "civil rights", make that the platform.


A May 1-24, 2023, survey asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy and found about two-thirds of Americans saying it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose legal abortion in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.

 

[filthybliss]

Wow, I expected the lazy "it's the woman's body, bro" argument, which you've already made, and instead you brought the ULTRA lazy "I don't understand where babies come from, so it's just faith".

If you support abortion on demand all the way up until they get a social security number, by all means, then throw that up on the website. If you think 3rd trimester abortions are "civil rights", make that the platform.


A May 1-24, 2023, survey asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy and found about two-thirds of Americans saying it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose legal abortion in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.

FWIW, 9/10 abortions happen during the first trimester so most of America is at peace with most abortions that happen based on the numbers that you provided. So I don't see the issue on blanketing the legality of abortions on a nation wide scale, we are one of the fews nations on earth still having a discussion over it.

Even if you want to impose a national abortion ban, abortion rates will not reduce as people will try to do it with more "homestyle" methods. We literally saw this in 2023 where abortion rates coupled with maternal deaths actually increased despite the bans enacted.

Study finds higher maternal mortality rates in states with more abortion restrictions

Figure 1. State abortion policy context in 2015 States with more restrictive abortion policy climate have higher total maternal mortality, measured as a death during pregnancy or within one year following the end of a pregnancy, a recent study conducted by a team of Tulane researchers finds.

sph.tulane.edu

Abortion By The Numbers

With Roe v. Wade in jeopardy, getting a safe abortion will become more difficult and costly.

www.forbes.com

Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

www.guttmacher.org

 

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[Strychnine]

That's why I specifically said "controlled" and while they had that power they pushed through this nonsense which didn't crack down on millionaires and billionaires but DID crack down on ordinary citizens and service worker tips.

IRS introduces new service industry tip reporting program​

IRS introduces new service industry tip reporting program | Internal Revenue Service

IR-2023-19, Feb. 6, 2023 — The Treasury Department and Internal Revenue Service today issued Notice 2023-13, which contains a proposed revenue procedure that would establish the Service Industry Tip Compliance Agreement (SITCA) program, a voluntary tip reporting program between the IRS and...

www.irs.gov

IRS audits the poor at 5 times the rate of everyone else, analysis finds​

IRS audits the poor at 5 times the rate of everyone else, analysis finds

Taxpayers who earn less than $25,000 are far more likely to get audited by the IRS than wealthier people.

www.cbsnews.com

V.P. Harris says she's against taxing tips. This is in this thread.

The IRS audits the poor because they didn't have enough experts to go after the whales.

Until now...

IRS says it has clawed back $1 billion from millionaire tax cheats

The IRS says its push to step up audits on wealthy tax cheats is paying off, with the agency recovering more than $1 billion.

www.cbsnews.com

"Trust but verify."

- Pres. Ronald Reagan

 

[luckyshot]

Wow, I expected the lazy "it's the woman's body, bro" argument, which you've already made, and instead you brought the ULTRA lazy "I don't understand where babies come from, so it's just faith".

If you support abortion on demand all the way up until they get a social security number, by all means, then throw that up on the website. If you think 3rd trimester abortions are "civil rights", make that the platform.


A May 1-24, 2023, survey asked about the legality of abortion at different stages of pregnancy and found about two-thirds of Americans saying it should be legal in the first trimester (69%), while support drops to 37% for the second trimester and 22% for the third. Majorities oppose legal abortion in the second (55%) and third (70%) trimesters.

Here's a hot take: the majority opinion that abortion is ok in the first trimester but not after that is less logical than either the complete ban on abortion OR the complete allowance of abortion.

It's really just a "vibes bro" position.

But I'm fine with it.

As I've said, personally, I think the choice should be between patients and doctors, and politicians should just stay the fuck out of it.

But I'm also fine with any in-between measure that guarantees at least SOME reproductive choice for all women as a first step.

Also, no issue is more affected by question framing than abortion.

For example, I guarantee that a vast majority of the population would support abortion into the third trimester in cases where the mother's life is in danger or the fetus is determined to have severe birth defects or be non-viable.... which just so happens to cover about 100% of actual cases of third trimester abortions.