Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[Joe]

You didn't address anything I said about her qualifications.
Put her resume against pre-president Trump, Obama, GW? Put her brain against the brain of the walking corpse of Biden. How is she that much less qualified compared to them?
How about you list all of the things that previous Vice Presidents accomplished? Why are we pretending like the VP isn't much more than a ceremonial position? They don't do much in the spotlight. What did Pence do?

It just sounds like a lot of projection on your part. Don't have to be a fan of Kamala to want her, (aka the Democratic party) to defeat Trump/the Republican party. But if yall are going to say she's not qualified, then you have to actually back that up with an argument, not just state it as if it were a fact.



Of course I would have wanted more of a Democratic process, but, as I said, it's not like we have many options this late in the game. There's simply not enough time to vet a new person and build up the money and support for an entirely new person. There's already a team and system in place for Kamala, and she'd be the obvious choice because she was the VP. She isn't some random woman they plucked out of the sky.
It's not like Trump actually even competed in his primaries. He didn't even debate anyone.


Again, youre playing games with the VP position. We all know damn well the VP is the 2nd most powerful person in government in theory only. The speaker of the house or the senate majority leader has more actual power than she does.
Republicans did not want to work with Dems on the border anyways, so we can just stop pretending with that fantasy as well.

Trump supporters of all people saying someone is not qualified is hilarious

 

[skysolo]

Of course I would have wanted more of a Democratic process, but, as I said, it's not like we have many options this late in the game. There's simply not enough time to vet a new person and build up the money and support for an entirely new person. There's already a team and system in place for Kamala, and she'd be the obvious choice because she was the VP. She isn't some random woman they plucked out of the sky.
It's not like Trump actually even competed in his primaries. He didn't even debate anyone.


Again, youre playing games with the VP position. We all know damn well the VP is the 2nd most powerful person in government in theory only. The speaker of the house or the senate majority leader has more actual power than she does.
Republicans did not want to work with Dems on the border anyways, so we can just stop pretending with that fantasy as well.

People already don't trust the process. Bypassing the primary and just nominating someone who the voters didn't vote for risks alienating even more people. Harris may not be random but she has never even a single vote in 2020's primary.

Rallying behind the vp without considering someone else who might be better suited to energize the base. A third of voters didn't even vote in 2020. This kind of collusion only makes it worse.

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

In the end it's going to be swapping one marionette with another.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

People already don't trust the process. Bypassing the primary and just nominating someone who the voters didn't vote for risks alienating even more people. Harris may not be random but she has never even a single vote in 2020's primary.

Rallying behind the vp without considering someone else who might be better suited to energize the base. A third of voters didn't even vote in 2020. This kind of collusion only makes it worse.

I don't disagree, but that's the hand we have been dealt because Biden dropped out so late.
Regardless of how we feel about the situation, this is what it is.
I don't like it either, but at the end of the day, now, the choice is either Harris or Trump. I can rightfully pissed off about Kamala being foisted upon me, but, would I rather have Trump as president ? No.

There's a lot of risk in trying to find a new person to go against Trump this late in the game, so while I don't like it, and this was 100% avoidable (because we've been talking about Biden's condition for literally years now) I understand the risk of a free for all.
The voters voted for Biden with Kamala as has VP knowing that she would be president if something happened to him. That should count for something.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Lol they are still so furious biden isnt the nominee

It's like watching a dumber version of a coked up Russell Brand. Wasn't sure that was possible.

 

[Helden]

People already don't trust the process. Bypassing the primary and just nominating someone who the voters didn't vote for risks alienating even more people. Harris may not be random but she has never even a single vote in 2020's primary.

Rallying behind the vp without considering someone else who might be better suited to energize the base. A third of voters didn't even vote in 2020. This kind of collusion only makes it worse.

Most dem voters would happily rally behind Kamala, even without a primary, over the alternative which was Biden v Trump.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Most dem voters would happily rally behind Kamala, even without a primary, over the alternative which was Biden v Trump.

Ya, I think the polls are showing a bump for Kamala relative to Biden already.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Samuel

Kid is amazing

Congrats man!

 

[Limbo Pete]

Most dem voters would happily rally behind Kamala, even without a primary, over the alternative which was Biden v Trump.

Don't let Skysolo buffalo you; he was never voting for Biden or Harris under any circumstances lol
He wants the democrat party to be as damaged as possible and gets really butthurt when they do something that might pay off

 

[Brueskie]

What's a man who wants to see Russia treated as the enemy they are to do? Since Trump's fat rancid ass came on the scene, Republicans have become a pack of isolationist Putin cock-gobblers. When the rubber meets the road, I doubt they'll stand up to China either. Republicans have turned into a pack of isolationist dickwads.

Democrats with their idiot domestic policies don't exactly ring my bell, so I have to decide between two shit sandwiches. In the end, I think not abandoning our role as world police is most important thing, so it looks like my recent change of voter registration to Democrat will be permanent. I will continue to vote Republican in local general elections, however.

 

[skysolo]

Don't let Skysolo buffalo you; he was never voting for Biden or Harris under any circumstances lol
He wants the democrat party to be as damaged as possible and gets really butthurt when they do something that might pay off

Talking about someone without quoting them or @ them is a coward's move.

And you're right. I'm not voting for someone with split pea soup for brains.

 

[skysolo]

Most dem voters would happily rally behind Kamala, even without a primary, over the alternative which was Biden v Trump.

While it’s true that some voters may rally behind the VP, the lack of a primary and thorough vetting process can lead to lack of enthusiasm. A third of voters didn't vote in 2020. They have no faith in the system. And they shouldn't for the same reason you wrote. Their vote doesn't matter.

 

[PhitePhan]

I'm jumping in late as always and im too lazy to read history but seems like you are asking a very fair question and in good faith so ill just add this is what chatgpt says (not trying to pretend i am a stan that knew)

Spoiler: Kamala Accomplishments

Kamala Harris has a range of accomplishments that stem from her roles but are not simply the titles she has held. Here are some notable achievements:

1. Mortgage Crisis Settlement: As California Attorney General, Harris secured a $20 billion settlement for California homeowners hit hardest by the foreclosure crisis.
2. Marriage Equality: She declined to defend Proposition 8, California's ban on same-sex marriage, in court, which contributed to the eventual legalization of same-sex marriage in the state.
3. Consumer Protection: Harris created the Privacy Enforcement and Protection Unit in California to prosecute companies for data breaches and enforce consumer privacy laws.
4. Environmental Protection: She won a significant settlement against Chevron for an oil spill, emphasizing corporate responsibility for environmental harm.
5. Combatting Human Trafficking: Harris initiated a comprehensive response to human trafficking, leading to a significant number of convictions and support services for victims.
6. Financial Crimes: She launched the Mortgage Fraud Strike Force, focusing on predatory lending practices and other financial crimes that contributed to the economic downturn.
7. Legislation: As a U.S. Senator, Harris co-sponsored the Justice in Policing Act, aimed at reforming law enforcement practices and addressing systemic racism.
8. COVID-19 Response: As Vice President, she played a key role in promoting vaccination efforts and addressing the public health crisis through various initiatives and public outreach.
9. Bipartisan Efforts: Harris worked across the aisle to secure federal funding for historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs).
10. Criminal Justice Reform: She introduced legislation to end cash bail at the federal level, arguing that the current system disproportionately affects low-income communities.

These achievements highlight her impact in various domains such as consumer protection, environmental justice, human rights, and public health.

Obviously, you will have your own opinions on which of these you agree with or whatever but also trumps just for fairness:

Spoiler: Trump Accomplishments

• Tax Reform: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law, which reduced the corporate tax rate and individual tax rates, aiming to stimulate economic growth.
• Criminal Justice Reform: Trump signed the First Step Act, which aimed to reform the federal prison system and reduce recidivism. This bipartisan effort included sentencing reforms and support for rehabilitation programs.
• Economic Growth: Before the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. experienced significant economic growth, including record-low unemployment rates, particularly for African Americans, Hispanics, and Asians.
• Trade Agreements: Trump renegotiated NAFTA, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), which aimed to better protect American workers and industries.
• Judicial Appointments: Trump appointed three Supreme Court justices and over 200 federal judges, significantly impacting the judiciary.
• Deregulation: His administration rolled back numerous federal regulations in an effort to reduce bureaucratic red tape and stimulate business growth.
• Military Funding: Trump increased funding for the military, focusing on modernizing the U.S. armed forces and improving military readiness.
• Space Force: Trump established the United States Space Force as a new branch of the military, aimed at addressing space-related defense needs.
• Veterans Affairs Reform: Trump signed the VA MISSION Act, which aimed to improve healthcare services for veterans, including allowing them to seek private care if VA facilities were inadequate.
• Middle East Peace Agreements: Trump brokered several normalization agreements between Israel and Arab nations, including the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco, collectively known as the Abraham Accords.
• Opioid Crisis: The Trump administration took steps to combat the opioid crisis, including signing the SUPPORT for Patients and Communities Act, which expanded treatment options and aimed to reduce opioid abuse.
• Criminal Sentencing Reform: He pardoned and commuted sentences for several individuals, drawing attention to issues of criminal justice and sentencing reform.

 

[skysolo]

I don't disagree, but that's the hand we have been dealt because Biden dropped out so late.
Regardless of how we feel about the situation, this is what it is.
I don't like it either, but at the end of the day, now, the choice is either Harris or Trump. I can rightfully pissed off about Kamala being foisted upon me, but, would I rather have Trump as president ? No.

There's a lot of risk in trying to find a new person to go against Trump this late in the game, so while I don't like it, and this was 100% avoidable (because we've been talking about Biden's condition for literally years now) I understand the risk of a free for all.
The voters voted for Biden with Kamala as has VP knowing that she would be president if something happened to him. That should count for something.

It's the hand you've accepted.

The issue is that there wasn't a democratic process. They colluded to keep other candidates from being actual contenders in the primary. They backroomed Harris into the spotlight. Voters had absolutely no say.

Accepting the status quo without addressing this isn't going to get the third of people who stayed home to vote.

You can prefer Harris over Trump. He's divisive, incompetent, and corrupt.

We should recognize the choice shouldn't be framed as a turd sandwich vs a giant douche without thinking about the bigger issues. The process that led to Harris and Trump is a bigger issue. The entire process is undermined by the dems collusion. This is the third election where the democratic voters vote didn't matter.

 

[Helden]

Don't let Skysolo buffalo you; he was never voting for Biden or Harris under any circumstances lol
He wants the democrat party to be as damaged as possible and gets really butthurt when they do something that might pay off

Oh I know. Republicans main goal now is to gaslight people into somehow being against Kamala as her surge in polls scares the jebus out of them. Trump is unlikely to gain anymore support, this is his absolute peak. JD Vance is a disaster, project 2025 is a disaster.. 'concern trolling' is what they have right now, oh and straight up sexism/racism... Which even they now realize is hurting them.

 

[Helden]

While it’s true that some voters may rally behind the VP, the lack of a primary and thorough vetting process can lead to lack of enthusiasm. A third of voters didn't vote in 2020. They have no faith in the system. And they shouldn't for the same reason you wrote. Their vote doesn't matter.

Only idiots will buy into your concern trolling.

Their vote will matter in November

 

[Limbo Pete]

Talking about someone without quoting them or @ them is a coward's move.

And you're right. I'm not voting for someone with split pea soup for brains.

"Why don't the democrats listen to people like me who hate their guts, constantly bothesides and concern troll, and just generally occupy a noisy perch dedicated to contrarian yowling?" -Skysolo

 

[skysolo]

"Why don't the democrats listen to people like me who hate their guts, constantly bothesides and concern troll, and just generally occupy a noisy perch dedicated to contrarian yowling?" -Skysolo

Why don't democrats listen to their own base for the first time in three elections? This is a better question than trying to make it personally about me.

 

[skysolo]

Only idiots will buy into your concern trolling.

Their vote will matter in November

A third of the voters will stay home again in November. So you're point is absolutely useless to what I'm saying.

I'm not a partisan. You guys are more quick to try to judge me than the elected officials trying to rule the world.

I think you are another partisan without an actual opinion other than what's popular. You stand for nothing like the above goof.

As for trolling. You both of done your share. You're even copying each other's lame insults.

 

[Helden]

A third of the voters will stay home again in November. So you're point is absolutely useless to what I'm saying.

I'm not a partisan. You guys are more quick to try to judge me than the elected officials trying to rule the world.

I think you are another partisan without an actual opinion other than what's popular. You stand for nothing like the above goof.

As for trolling. You both of done your share.

Cool, see you in November