Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[Gamer2k4]

How Trumpists dealt with Kamala in the aftermath of Biden dropping out is hilarious. They were lost at sea. All those years of narrative about Joe just evaporated, so they started just throwing everything out there, seeing what sticks with Kamala, before they get their marching orders from HQ.

Kamala has an annoying laugh.
Kamala has given blowjobs.
Kamala is not really black.

All very important issues. lmao.

Let me guess - you're one of those people who claims the only rationale Republicans have offered for getting rid of Biden is that he's old, right?

 

[Rob Battisti]

Is Biden alive? Honestly

 

[Barteh]

Conception is the most sensible, because otherwise all you're doing is saying it's okay to kill a human as long as they're not aware of it and don't feel pain from it.

But if you truly want to talk reasonable limits, how about this - abortion is legal in cases of rape, incest, and to protect the health of the mother, and illegal in all other cases. Would that be acceptable?

I look at it more from a practical perspective. On a personal level I'm anti abortion but I still support a reasonable time limit because there's demand for it and people are going to do it one way or another. You're just gonna get more illegal botched abortions and people having to cross state lines to get an abortion, that's not a real solution.

 

[traditionally_irreverent]

He listened to you guys and agreed that he was to old…

He will explain it later this week in his address to the public.

Get over it, he’s gone, is a moot point now

The problem is that he is still the president.
Its not his age but the obvious mental decline that is the issue.

Let me dumb it down for you.
He’s getting paid but isn’t showing up for work.
He is out of sick days and PTO.

 

[filthybliss]

How Trumpists dealt with Kamala in the aftermath of Biden dropping out is hilarious. They were lost at sea. All those years of narrative about Joe just evaporated, so they started just throwing everything out there, seeing what sticks with Kamala, before they get their marching orders from HQ.

Kamala has an annoying laugh.
Kamala has given blowjobs.
Kamala is not really black.

All very important issues. lmao.

She is a DEI hire. Despite, Trump being a felon and Vance having one year in politics

 

[Mr Holmes]

Is Biden alive? Honestly

The memes are suggesting he isn't. We should all pay attention to the meme thread for further updates.

 

[Barteh]

Is Biden alive? Honestly

I think it's been 5 days since the last proof of life? That's an awful long time for a US president.

 

[filthybliss]

Let me guess - you're one of those people who claims the only rationale Republicans have offered for getting rid of Biden is that he's old, right?

Republicans or I should say MAGATs don't care about anything of substance beyond Trump being president. They complained about Biden being old and how he needs to step down. He does it, now they are frothing over Harris' race and suddenly they became ACAB SJWs, supporting the felon over the cop. It is truly a conundrum.

 

[BFoe]

First, I have no issue if it saves the mother's life. Aside from that, it is a deplorable practice.
I should have been more clear with my original question.
So let's try that again, since abortion seems to be your main talking point.
What right do women not have, that men do?

Hold on a sec—
I’ll move on from this topic in a minute, but there’s a lot of facets to this.

So I appreciate you’re saying that you have no issue if it saves a woman’s life. Sincerely.
I *believe* that every state with abortion restrictions has exceptions for the life of the mother—and yet, those things that I linked to still happened (and I could link to more examples).

—Because politicians are not medical professionals, and cannot realistically foresee every possible medical situation and consequence, that they should just stay out of it and leave this between a woman and her doctor?

Also, you spoke of saving the life of the woman. Let’s revisit what happened in TX. This woman was pregnant by choice, and her life wasn’t in danger. But her fetus was nonviable, and the condition she had made it such that she may never get to have children unless physicians intervened. She said:
“I’m trying to do what is best for my baby and myself, but the state of Texas is making us both suffer. I need to end my pregnancy now so that I have the best chance for my health and a future pregnancy.”
She had to sue to make that possible, all the way to the TX Supreme Court. And when they ruled on her favor, the TX AG intervened and personally threatened to go after any physician who performed the procedure that the Supreme Court of that state authorized. That’s pretty insane, isn’t it?

There’s nothing analogous to that which men go through, is there?

 

[HereticBD]

A baby is out of the womb.

Only if you get a doctor to kill them. They all of a sudden become people, when a woman loses her "fetus" in a car accident...

 

[BFoe]

Sad example, it's wild that shit like that happens. If only both sides would come together and try to actually find a fix that works for both parties, which I guess is going to be hard with both extremes so far apart.

So many countries have done it, just say 14-16 weeks, health of the mother + rape/incest/unviable fetus and boom. But sadly they can't do it.

Thank you, and I agree. I mean, what you described is what we had before they overturned Roe. Roe initially said no abortion in the 3rd trimester, a case called Planned Parenthood v Casey changed that to “viability,” which is a little more vague. But for the first, let’s say 20 weeks, there was no issue. After viability it was for health and safety of the mother only. They acted like we libs were radicals, I think it’s quite reasonable.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Thank you, and I agree. I mean, what you described is what we had before they overturned Roe. Roe initially said no baritone in the 3rd trimester, a case called Planned Parenthood v Casey changed that to “viability,” which is a little more vague. But for the first, let’s say 20 weeks, there was no issue. After viability it was for health and safety of the mother only. They acted like we libs were radicals, I think it’s quite reasonable.

I would be okay if it was cut off at 14-16 weeks max but may be convinced at 20 in the event of genetic issues and past that with risk to the mothers life. Anything past that is obscene.

 

[filthybliss]

Only if you get a doctor to kill them. They all of a sudden become people, when a woman loses her "fetus" in a car accident...

do you think the identity of a person is defined by their conscious thoughts?

 

[Helden]

First, I have no issue if it saves the mother's life. Aside from that, it is a deplorable practice.
I should have been more clear with my original question.
So let's try that again, since abortion seems to be your main talking point.
What right do women not have, that men do?

The right to their bodily autonomy.

Fetuses / fertilized eggs are not independent conscious human beings. Women shouldn't be forced to carry them to term, especially based on shitty religious fairy tales or personal feelings of random dudes. Simple as that.

 

[Barteh]

Hold on a sec—
I’ll move on from this topic in a minute, but there’s a lot of facets to this.

So I appreciate you’re saying that you have no issue if it saves a woman’s life. Sincerely.
I *believe* that every state with abortion restrictions has exceptions for the life of the mother—and yet, those things that I linked to still happened (and I could link to more examples).

—Because politicians are not medical professionals, and cannot realistically foresee every possible medical situation and consequence, that they should just stay out of it and leave this between a woman and her doctor?

Also, you spoke of saving the life of the woman. Let’s revisit what happened in TX. This woman was pregnant by choice, and her life wasn’t in danger. But her fetus was nonviable, and the condition she had made it such that she may never get to have children unless physicians intervened. She said:
“I’m trying to do what is best for my baby and myself, but the state of Texas is making us both suffer. I need to end my pregnancy now so that I have the best chance for my health and a future pregnancy.”
She had to sue to make that possible, all the way to the TX Supreme Court. And when they ruled on her favor, the TX AG intervened and personally threatened to go after any physician who performed the procedure that the Supreme Court of that state authorized. That’s pretty insane, isn’t it?

There’s nothing analogous to that which men go through, is there?

Bro the other example you provided is something I've been through personally. The one where the fetus had already died and they wouldn't just go through with the abortion in your example (in my example of course they went through with it as normal), the medical term they used in the hospital (translated from Spanish) was involuntary abortion.

Sure, it's obviously worse for the women who have to go through that with a dead baby inside of them. But don't try to claim like men don't have to go through it. It's a very rough situation for any man, and if they're blocking it like these dumb religious fucks in the US are doing it'd just make it harder for BOTH the woman and the man.

I don't agree with the notion that it's a pure women's rights thing. In a healthy situation it's the decision of the couple and then legally you have to frame it in a way that it's ultimately the woman's decision. But men should (and most often do in practice) have a say.

 

[Gamer2k4]

do you think identity of a person is defined by their conscious thoughts?

I certainly think if you believe a person loses their identity whenever they're not conscious, there's something seriously wrong with how you define humanity.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Michael Lavaughn Robinson is definitely the best chance we have of getting a great president.
First black tranny in office. And his first lady would be an ex president.
The lefties here would fucking love it. And this forum is stuffed full of lefties......

 

[K1levelgrappler]

They really should just pick Kelly cuz being an astronaut is pretty fucking cool

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Is Biden alive? Honestly

I predict he's on his deathbed. An event where a President decides to end his re-election campaign and back his vice president instead, is not something you address the nation in a tweet. Unless you physically cant make an appearance, which I suspect is the case.

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

Bro the other example you provided is something I've been through personally. The one where the fetus had already died and they wouldn't just go through with the abortion in your example (in my example of course they went through with it as normal), the medical term they used in the hospital (translated from Spanish) was involuntary abortion.

Sure, it's obviously worse for the women who have to go through that with a dead baby inside of them. But don't try to claim like men don't have to go through it. It's a very rough situation for any man, and if they're blocking it like these dumb religious fucks in the US are doing it'd just make it harder for BOTH the woman and the man.

I don't agree with the notion that it's a pure women's rights thing. In a healthy situation it's the decision of the couple and then legally you have to frame it in a way that it's ultimately the woman's decision. But men should (and most often do in practice) have a say.

Sorry for your loss sherbro...