Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

Helden said:
And conservatives wonder why women find them repulsive.
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Don’t worry, Trump’s going to protect women “whether they want it or not”— because nothing says protection like having your consent and free will violated, apparently.
 
BFoe said:
Not literally Hitler, “literally Hitler” is just a dumb right wing meme—but he’s far too close for comfort.

Mark Twain said it best: history doesn’t repeat, it merely rhymes.

Replacing government officials with loyalists (something that has already been done at the RNC, btw), constantly dehumanizing and scapegoating immigrants, travel bans, rounding up his political opponents (whom he equates to subhuman vermin), “retribution,” mass deportations…this is all shit directly from his own mouth.

And it’s all shit that anyone who’s studied history has seen before.
Donald Trump is running on an openly fascist platform.

As far as being a brainwashed Democrat? I never claim to be an expert, but I’ve been following politics and studying history literally since I was a kid.
I recognized Trump’s movement right away for what it was, back in 2016. I could tell you he exact moment, even.

It makes me really, really sad that someone can run in America on a platform of such hate and cruelty and be as successful as he is.
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wait so you actually think he’s even remotely on the same level? That’s kind of crazy.

You know I respect you, but none of the things you described are why hitler is hitler. Hitler is hitler because he ordered a mass genocide. There are many many many other leaders who at one time or another have checked some (not all) of the boxes.

That’s like looking at a tall teenager and saying “you’re just like Michael Jordan”. Like ok, they are tall, maybe they look athletic too or are good at basketball. But such a singular unique event requires that “extra sauce” to reach such a wild and significant moment.

It’s not a real comparison.

If anything Kamala is closer for allowing the cartel to pedal meth in such large quantities and taking donations from TD bank who recently got stung for laundering the cartels money.

I’m much more afraid of someone who’s wrong incarcerated thousands of people, and takes money from the cartel than I am of someone who promotes hateful rhetoric.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
You know I respect you, but none of the things you described are why hitler is hitler. Hitler is hitler because he ordered a mass genocide. There are many many many other leaders who at one time or another have checked some (not all) of the boxes.
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You should give us a history lesson on Hitler's rise to power before he committed the mass genocide.

Anyone who has studied WW2 history here knows what Trump is spewing my dude.

When you get to the point where you are talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them, you are getting a little too close to being Hitler adjacent.

You should also describe to us what 20 million deportations is gonna look like, how he plans to do it, and what are going to be the ramifications for attempting to do this. You are voting for it evidently, so educate us on your thoughts here.


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His rhetoric today:



Explain this? Explain how this doesn't invoke or warrant Hitlerian comparison just from today's rhetoric alone? Some of those media members he's talking about are conservative Trump supporters. This dude is on stage saying he wouldn't mind somebody mowing down the media covering his event, his own supporters included. You can't really say this is out of context can you? Was this some Trump weave? Explain how this isn't somebody selling fascism in 2024?
 
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Fedor>Cain said:
You should give us a history lesson on Hitler's rise to power before he committed the mass genocide.

Anyone who has studied WW2 history here knows what Trump is spewing my dude.

When you get to the point where you are talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them, you are getting a little too close to being Hitler adjacent.

You should also describe to us what 20 million deportations is gonna look like, how he plans to do it, and what are going to be the ramifications for attempting to do this. You are voting for it evidently, so educate us on your thoughts here.
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He’s not going to deport 20 million people. That’s just rhetoric to stir up the fanatics (similar to your rhetoric that Trump would commit mass genocide lol).

Realistically the ones here illegally who get arrested for other criminal activities will get deported instead of released right back onto the streets.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
Does anyone understand the thing where all of the brain washed democrats are somehow now convinced that trump is literally hitler?

Like? What am I missing here?
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I dunno who literally thinks he’s Hitler on here. I don’t think JD Vance uses Sherdog. But I could be wrong.

www.theguardian.com

JD Vance once worried Trump was ‘America’s Hitler’. Now his own authoritarian leanings come into view

Vice-presidential pick has said he would have blocked certification of 2020 results in key states won by Biden
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Nevertheless, Trump reuses a lot of Hitler-like statements and people mention that. Maybe he should try being more original and not ripping off a dead dictator if he doesn’t want to be called out for it?

 
UberHere said:
He’s not going to deport 20 million people. That’s just rhetoric to stir up the fanatics. Realistically the ones here illegally who get arrested for other criminal activities will get deported instead of released right back onto the streets.
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like they should be because our drug addiction issues are out of control.

We complain about gun violence, drugs, crime. Where do you all think it’s coming from? It’s not because trump said a few mean things. We literally have a fentanyl network flowing straight up the west coast and central US and into Canada.
filthybliss said:
I dunno who literally thinks he’s Hitler on here. I don’t think JD Vance uses Sherdog. But I could be wrong.

www.theguardian.com

JD Vance once worried Trump was ‘America’s Hitler’. Now his own authoritarian leanings come into view

Vice-presidential pick has said he would have blocked certification of 2020 results in key states won by Biden
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Nevertheless, Trump reuses a lot of Hitler-like statements and people mention that. Maybe he should try being more original and not ripping off a dead dictator if he doesn’t want to be called out for it?

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ok so a left leaning media outlet chopped up some quotes. Can you show me the original source of where he actually said that?

Also, isn’t part of being a communist removing the democratic voting process? So why was Kamala made the Democratic candidate without there being a vote? They rigged the system and you’re all so blind with little chopped up quotes and false narratives that someone can bypass the primaries and it doesn’t even bother you.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
I’m much more afraid of someone who’s wrong incarcerated thousands of people, and takes money from the cartel than I am of someone who promotes hateful rhetoric.
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Ok so you like Trump more and actually don’t care about hateful rhetoric. You only clutch pearls when it’s directed at him though.

But your side calling Kamala the “anti-Christ” is ok?

This is such manchild behavior. If you don’t like mean words being directed at politicians, you should apply that universally not only when it comes to your side. If you don’t actually care about mean words then apply that universally and don’t complain about it like oversized bitch with all due respect. It’s hypocritical and pathetic.
 
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UberHere said:
He’s not going to deport 20 million people. That’s just rhetoric to stir up the fanatics (similar to your rhetoric that Trump would commit mass genocide lol).

Realistically the ones here illegally who get arrested for other criminal activities will get deported instead of released right back onto the streets.
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So he's appealing to fanatics and behaving fascistically just for votes. Mmkay, solid defense, lets fucking gamble on that. You guys gotta work on your bullshit
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
like they should be because our drug addiction issues are out of control.

We complain about gun violence, drugs, crime. Where do you all think it’s coming from? It’s not because trump said a few mean things. We literally have a fentanyl network flowing straight up the west coast and central US and into Canada.

ok so a left leaning media outlet chopped up some quotes. Can you show me the original source of where he actually said that?

Also, isn’t part of being a communist removing the democratic voting process? So why was Kamala made the Democratic candidate without there being a vote? They rigged the system and you’re all so blind with little chopped up quotes and false narratives that someone can bypass the primaries and it doesn’t even bother you.
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"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler."

you are aware that in 2022 his own spokesperson didn't even try to deny that he made that comment, but instead stated that he has since changed his views?

it's okay though. he didn't really mean that, and if he did it's no big deal because others have said worse.
 
filthybliss said:
Ok you like Trump more and actually don’t care about hateful rhetoric. You only clutch pearls when it’s about him though but calling Kamala the “anti-Christ” is ok because it’s your side.
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I never called her the anti christ and I never condoned the same.

I actually don’t give a fuck about name calling at all it’s childish.

I care about their actual impact on our country.
 
UberHere said:
“Literally Hitler”. “Nazi rally”. Same shit you guys do
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He's repeated actual Nazi talking points, been running down the fascist playlist, and spread a rumor that originated with a white supremacist group called Blood Tribe. It's not hyperbole
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
wait so you actually think he’s even remotely on the same level? That’s kind of crazy.

You know I respect you, but none of the things you described are why hitler is hitler. Hitler is hitler because he ordered a mass genocide. There are many many many other leaders who at one time or another have checked some (not all) of the boxes.

That’s like looking at a tall teenager and saying “you’re just like Michael Jordan”. Like ok, they are tall, maybe they look athletic too or are good at basketball. But such a singular unique event requires that “extra sauce” to reach such a wild and significant moment.

It’s not a real comparison.

If anything Kamala is closer for allowing the cartel to pedal meth in such large quantities and taking donations from TD bank who recently got stung for laundering the cartels money.

I’m much more afraid of someone who’s wrong incarcerated thousands of people, and takes money from the cartel than I am of someone who promotes hateful rhetoric.
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You’re totally misrepresenting what I said.
I didn’t say Trump is Hitler, or is the same as Hitler.
No one is saying Trump is Hitler, actually.

We have pointed out similarities in Trump’s tactics to other fascists and destructive nationalist movements in history, in the hopes people might learn from those. This goes way back to 2016, when we pointed out that constantly calling the media “fake news” is much like what Hitler did when he nicknamed media the lungenpresse, which means “lying press.” Classic tactic. Its purpose is so that when the media reports on the awful, corrupt, criminal things Hitler was up to, no one would believe them. Trump uses it for the same purpose.

When someone does these things, the correct action is to keep them the hell as far away from public office, not take a gamble that they won’t abuse power worse. Like @Fedor>Cain hinted at, Hitler of the 1930s wasn’t quite the Hitler of the 1940s.

If you don’t mind indulging me, here are political scientist Dr.Lawrence Britt’s 14 characteristics of fascism (he made this list after studying fascist regimes), written way back in 2003.


As far your accusation of Kamala allowing cartels to peddle meth, if you have evidence of that throw it down.
 
Zebra Cheeks said:
I never called her the anti christ and I never condoned the same.

I actually don’t give a fuck about name calling at all it’s childish.

I care about their actual impact on our country.
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Then why were you crying about hypothetical people calling Trump “literally Hitler”?
 
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