Elections Kamala Harris for POTUS

[curryjunkie]

has to be kelly. Theyll lose a seat in arizona but will get filled by the gov. Beshear is boring. Hes not good but the campaign keeps quoting him. I dont get what they see.

id save kelly for next time, hes too good a candidate for a rushed campaign.

 

[HunterAcosta]

Which is amazing because she isn't Black.

How much black does she have to be for you to claim her as one of your “
I have plenty of black friends ?“ Tell us what the percentage needs to be ?

 

[Vampire life]

Crazy kamala is more economically and socially off center than Trump. She is a far left regressive.

She’s being marketed as a moderate because of her time as DA in CA

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Can't admit that he was too old but that's the reason. The world saw the truth with that debate and he can't win.

And the democrats are now going to be complete hypocrites and say that Trump's age is a problem.

 

[Helden]

And the democrats are now going to be complete hypocrites and say that Trump's age is a problem.

Sure, are we not allowed to use your dirty tricks?

Perhaps we can argue about policy........... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[herpd807]

There is really nothing on Kamala since outside of ignoring the border because she's never been to Europe and racist ideas like wanting/forcing equity...she really is unburdened by what has been.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Sure, are we not allowed to use your dirty tricks?

Perhaps we can argue about policy........... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm not a republican or democrat, but nice try.

You can use all the dirty tricks you want. Stop the whole holier-than-thou act though. Clearly you don't care about policy when you admit you need to use dirty tricks yourself. You're not any better. You're just in the other cult.

 

[Helden]

I'm not a republican or democrat, but nice try.

You can use all the dirty tricks you want. Stop the whole holier-than-thou act though. Clearly you don't care about policy when you admit you need to use dirty tricks yourself. You're not any better. You're just in the other cult.

I love when you chudkins don't even know the reason for why we refer to you via certain terms. Your brain thinks "liberals said we are in a cult, cult must be generic bad word, therefore we'll tell them they are in a cult hurr hurr".

No buddy, it's not how that works. I could waste my time explaining it to you, point by point and debunking your nonsense, but I suspect just like every other ring winger, you'll go radio silent and forget this conversation took place, while spouting the same nonsense in a different thread a week later.

 

[BFoe]

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard explains why she voted “present” on the articles of impeachment

Gabbard said she couldn’t vote for “the culmination of a partisan process, fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country.”

www.vox.com

Sounds like she voted present for a pretty reasonable reason. She is probably one of the few that actually read and just didn't vote on party lines.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/10/tulsi-gabbard-assad-syria-1214882

Seems like she had a pretty informed opinion, based of the previous warmongering she is always against.

The rest seems to mostly be an issue on her position and voting policies not agreeing with the party because she had issues with things. A lot of Tulis voting against stuff voting for or against things was based on her actually reading through and finding flaws or problems with things.

Doesn't mean she was perfect, but she is better than Harris and could have stolen some voters wanting a left leaning option, that doesn't come across as batshit insane and pandering to the woke crowd.

I have to strongly disagree on the impeachment part here. The proposition to impeach a POTUS is a very serious and solemn one, I think. Prior to Trump, it had only come up twice in our nation’s entire history, 3 times if we count Nixon (articles were drafted and we were certainly headed towards impeachment had he not resigned).
And she can’t take a stand on it one way or the other?? That is what I loathe about Tulsi the most, her spinelessness. And she had the balls to run to be the leader of the free world? Why would I want a POTUS who can’t take a stand?

That reasoning she laid out, that she couldn’t support “the culmination of a partisan process, fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country”? I have news for Tulsi: That’s what the impeachment process is. It’s always been partisan, it’s always been divided, that’s what it is by nature and probably will always be. You can’t just do nothing because an issue is contentious, that’s not how leadership works.

To your other points: if Tulsi found flaws in the $15/hr min wage bill, something she supported and was campaigning on, she should’ve had the balls to vote “No” and say why. I have no respect for her “Present” vote,
I also thought her attacks on Kamala were misleading, and her attacks on Pete were outright nonsense.

Why she because a darling of the Right is kind of a mystery to me. The rest of her 2020 platform were things like Medicare For All, banning assault weapons, free college, abortion with very few restrictions, eliminating fossil fuel dependency, abolishing the electoral college…. I generally support those things, but so do a lot of other liberal Dems that I like a whole lot better than Tulsi.

 

[Prefect]

I don't need to be placated here, you're free to argue what you want in response to what I said if you disagree.

I want people, especially supposed centrists, to stop acting like Trump is a normal, respectable candidate instead of a unique threat to America's democratic institutions and norms in light of the fact that he tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. I want people to stop pretending that the radicals are a minority in the GOP when 2/3rds of the voters base believe the "Stop the Steal" conspiracy and Republican law makers and judges appointed by them have closed ranks behind Trump and shielded him from accountability. I want people to recognize that this series of events, Trump's attempted coup, the failed impeachment due to GOP partisanship, his dominant performance in the primary, and the immunity decision by the SCOTUS, collectively point to Trump becoming a uniquely powerful executive unrestrained by the other branches of government or his own voter base should he win reelection. And I want it recognized that in light of this there is nowhere near equal culpability for the insane polarization in the country right now.

Unlike all the nutty conspiracies that come out daily from the right this is virtually public record and isn't contested by the accused. This is an insanely unique moment in the history of American democracy that isn't getting anywhere near the attention it deserves from this angle. Saying the equivalent of "Trump should not have done that, it was the wrong thing to do" really doesn't cut it for me in light of the facts at hand.

You don't get it. The guy hates democrats not because of their platform but because he is in way to deep in crypto and Trump wouldn't tear the band aids off that whole industry and regulate it.

 

[marvinparsons]

It's weird in 2020 nobody gave a shit about Kamala, her numbers were atrocious, almost zero interest in her in the primaries.

Now shes awesome, the best, she's fucking amazing to Democrats.

If you are a Democrat and wanna call the MAGA crew a cult, go ahead. However, you are also in a cult.

She had zero popular enthusiasm and it was mostly due to weird political considerations that she was made VP.

VPs lately haven't been picked because they are the second most competent person to be President (or most electable) it's to win over an extremely small number of voters during a general election. Kamala was picked to shore up minority support in the democratic party and generate turnout in that group because Biden was an old white dude.

Now you are have her as the main candidate because she was VP, even though she has minimal appeal to the biggest group of voters you need to appeal to.

The only good thing you can say about Harris is that nobody HATES her like they did H Clinton, Trump, Bush2.

She is as middle of the road as it gets in terms of policy. Her personality is mostly bland.

Biden screwed over the Dems as if they'd had more time they could have had an actual competition and found a better candidate.

All the feigned enthusiasm for Harris is phony as nobody like her 6 months ago. If you hate Trump, I guess you have to drum up whatever enthusiasm you can muster for whoever the candidate is.

 

[Helden]

She had zero popular enthusiasm and it was mostly due to weird political considerations that she was made VP.

VPs lately haven't been picked because they are the second most competent person to be President (or most electable) it's to win over an extremely small number of voters during a general election. Kamala was picked to shore up minority support in the democratic party and generate turnout in that group because Biden was an old white dude.

Now you are have her as the main candidate because she was VP, even though she has minimal appeal to the biggest group of voters you need to appeal to.

The only good thing you can say about Harris is that nobody HATES her like they did H Clinton, Trump, Bush2.

She is as middle of the road as it gets in terms of policy. Her personality is mostly bland.

Biden screwed over the Dems as if they'd had more time they could have had an actual competition and found a better candidate.

All the feigned enthusiasm for Harris is phony as nobody like her 6 months ago. If you hate Trump, I guess you have to drum up whatever enthusiasm you can muster for whoever the candidate is.

Well, she did immediately raise 150 million in 24 hours. The enthusiasm for her comes from her not being Trump or Biden.

 

[marvinparsons]

Well, she did immediately raise 150 million in 24 hours. The enthusiasm for her comes from her not being Trump or Biden.

100% people are getting behind her as they would have gotten behind any presumptive nominee that isn't Trump/Biden. But she's probably not as well placed to actually win the election (or raise as much $$ even) compared to better candidates that didn't have a realistic chance.

Money alone isn't going to make her appeal to who she needs to (swing voters) in a few key states.

 

[Helden]

100% people are getting behind her as they would have gotten behind any presumptive nominee that isn't Trump/Biden. But she's probably not as well placed to actually win the election (or raise as much $$ even) compared to better candidates that didn't have a realistic chance.

Money alone isn't going to make her appeal to who she needs to (swing voters) in a few key states.

You'd be surprised how far money can get you.

Plus if she picks her VP strategically, she can easily lock down a swing state like PA

 

[PBAC]

It will take time for kamilla to build her image. As is the switch the looks week and Don still looks tough after the shooting. Dons entire arguments were personal attacks on Biden and these are clearly getting flipped back on him. Fox ran a segment calling accusations that trump is too old as childish and irelevant to the debate. She has literally only started to recieve funding and no plan differing from bidens has been offered yet. The propaganda/rhetoric switch is entirely on the liberals side right now, and Don has set himself up for a round 2 debate with a far more experienced politician. He can't backout of this now.

Right now the republicans will likely confuse Harris with Michelle Obama and start accusing her of being an African gay tranny, oh and she is also "Heinous Harris" or Killa Kamilla all of a sudden too.

 

[I Am Legion]

Meanwhile:
—3 posts above you is a “she ain’t black” post (it’s her mother’s side that’s Indian, her father’s is Afro-Jamaican, i.e. a Jamaican of African ancestry)
—2 posts below you is a “she slept her way to the top” post
—2 posts below that is a “her family owned slaves” post (the connection itself is not proven, it’s super misleading to phrase it that way rather than saying “she’s (possibly) descended from slave owners, something that’s true of many people with Jamaican heritage and also true of many African Americans here in the US, evidence indicates she’s probably descended from both slaves and slave owners).

Of course that doesn’t mean all conservatives think this way, but let’s not put our head in the sand about it either. There are plenty of lowbrow, shitty, race-baiting misogynistic attacks flying around the interwebs already.

I am already seeing posts in the media from libs saying "Finally a woman President", "Finally a female black president". Plenty of anti-Harris stuff like you mentioned. Legitimate anti Harris stuff as well, like her interviews where she sounds incompetent. But in none of the pro Harris stuff is any substance but she's a woman and a person of color. Like that is the criteria needed to be President. The truth is she was sleeping with Willie Brown who gave her first positions of power. He gave her 2 appointments. Thats verified. And she has done nothing since being VP to prove that she can be a President. Her speeches are awful, and it is obvious she has no clue about foreign policy, relations, or economics. Her border take was awful, and they tried to leave her out to dry with that.

 

[Brueskie]

Well, she did immediately raise 150 million in 24 hours. The enthusiasm for her comes from her not being Trump or Biden.

I think it would be more accurate to call it desperation instead of enthusiasm. I'm voting Democrat this go'round, but I'm not doing the fake enthusiasm thing, because I'd feel like a fool if I tried. Also, I simply don't have the mental and emotional energy to keep up that kind of front.

 

[Helden]

I think it would be more accurate to call it desperation instead of enthusiasm. I'm voting Democrat this go'round, but I'm not doing the fake enthusiasm thing, because I'd feel like a fool if I tried. Also, I simply don't have the mental and emotional energy to keep up that kind of front.

Its subjective. For the people who thought the options were going to be Biden or Trump, it's like a "THANK FUCK" moment.
Is it genuine enthusiasm like a Bernie 2016 run? No, but you take small wins.

 

[I Am Legion]

It will take time for kamilla to build her image. As is the switch the looks week and Don still looks tough after the shooting. Dons entire arguments were personal attacks on Biden and these are clearly getting flipped back on him. Fox ran a segment calling accusations that trump is too old as childish and irelevant to the debate. She has literally only started to recieve funding and no plan differing from bidens has been offered yet. The propaganda/rhetoric switch is entirely on the liberals side right now, and Don has set himself up for a round 2 debate with a far more experienced politician. He can't backout of this now.

Right now the republicans will likely confuse Harris with Michelle Obama and start accusing her of being an African gay tranny, oh and she is also "Heinous Harris" or Killa Kamilla all of a sudden too.

Plenty of ammo to personally attack Kamala. She has as many bad speeches as Biden. She has the burden of the Border and inflation like Biden did. The border was put on her shoulders, and she failed miserably. "I have never been to Europe either". The clips are flying around now with her word salad nonsense, and her flubs as well as her "What can be, unburdened by what has been " bullshit---they have found over a dozen speeches where she just changes the words a little. She is a fraud.

 

[oldshadow]

She is not center left on policy as she backed the policies Biden's handlers put out there. She may have been able to play that card before she was VP but not now. Unless she wants to come out and say The democrats have moved to far to the left under Biden, and that's never going to happen.

She failed at the one job she was publicly given. She was so bad a speaking they pushed her into the background as far possible. If you look at her latest speech he hasn't improved.