Kaepernick: Admoration, hatred, why is this a story? Merge Thread

[RIPWarrior]

He'll blame his inevitable failure this season on oppression and racism too.

I mean, that's the only reason why he would fail. It has to be.

It is because that will be all that he can think about. Waking up everyday in a white racist society is taxing on the mind. How can he focus with all these racist white people around.

 

[sangreporsangre]

Everyone loves some freedom of expression, until someone expresses themselves in a way you disagree with.

Did someone in this thread call for him to be arrested or something? I must have missed that post.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Everyone loves some freedom of expression, until someone expresses themselves in a way you disagree with.

Who here is upset with freedom of expression? We just think he expressed idiocy and are roasting him for it. I'm all for freedom of expression. It helps separate the wheat from the chaff

 

[YoungBoyd]

The problem with Saudi Arabia is less to do with race and more to do with religion. Do you see non-Muslims migrating to Saudi Arabia both legally & illegally? The only non-Muslims that do migrate to Saudi Arabia are the desperately poor ones, so anything is a step up for them. The vast majority of immigrants in Saudi Arabia are Muslim.

How often is Saudi citizenship given out to non-Muslims? I'd love to see the statistics on that. Now compare that to how often citizenship is given to non-whites in the USA. There isn't even a single church in all of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia loves it foreign workers, but that's it. There is a very restrictive limit to how high you can rise in Saudi society if you're not Arab Muslim. In the USA, if you're not white, you can become the president. You can do anything you want, actually.

There are plenty of highly educated immigrants in Saudi Arabia, even americans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_living_in_Saudi_Arabia). It's a great country if you want to make money. Look, i am not arguing that Saudi Arabia isn't racist, because it really is. And this isn't about Saudi Arabia. This is about the logic in your post. Just because someone wants to go somewhere for a better life and make money, doesn't mean that they don't suffer racism or any slight negative effects. However providing money for your family and living in safety is way more important than any racism that may or may not exist. Frankly i don't even know if racism is prominent in the Us, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but millions of people do. That's not gonna go away before people adress it and the root causes.

 

[mtron929]

What is he exactly accomplishing here? With his refusal to stand for the National Anthem, he is accomplishing close to nothing in whatever goal he has, as this issue is well-published already to begin with. However, he is definitely putting a strain amongst the players in the 49ers locker room where probably half of people are irritated by his political statement, while the other half support him. The last thing you want (especially in a game like football) is to have the locker room divided over some political issue.

 

[goldennirvana]

There are plenty of highly educated immigrants in Saudi Arabia, even americans

'Plenty' means nothing. How many, exactly?

This is about the logic in your post.

My logic is that if certain people are 'oppressed' in a country, you wouldn't see more of those same groups migrating, both legally & illegally, to the country where the supposed 'oppression' is taking place, in their droves. For example, homosexuals are actually oppressed in Saudi Arabia, which is why we don't see homosexuals flocking to Saudi Arabia.

Just because someone wants to go somewhere for a better life and make money, doesn't mean that they don't suffer racism or any slight negative effects.

The argument isn't that racism doesn't exist in the USA. Of course it does - racism exists in every country on the planet. The argument that this airhead affleet is using is that black people and 'people of colour' are OPPRESSED in the USA. That's a big difference. Racism is one thing, but oppression has to come from some greater power, usually government-backed. Anyone who believes that there is a government-backed oppression of 'people of colour' in the USA is INSANE.

However providing money for your family and living in safety is way more important than any racism that may or may not exist.

But the argument is that non-whites aren't safe living in the West, because of the oppression they have to face. Remember, this moron Kaepernick said that 'people of colour' are OPPRESSED in the USA. That's why he refused to stand for the NATIONAL ANTHEM. He doesn't just think that racism exists in the USA. His argument is that there is a nationwide, government-backed oppression of anyone who is not white, in the USA. He is a moron of the highest degree.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

As a lifetime 49er fan, Kaepernick was already in my dog house.

My problem with this protest is because of all the people who died for the flag. They were white,black, Hispanic.. to me it's a slap in THEIR face, not mine

when I saw he was trending on Twitter my first thought was, he was finally traded.

 

[applesbananas]

Black people are always playing the victim. They need to look at themselves. Black men commit around 50% of the violent crimes in the US while only making up 13% of the population. If you're constantly shooting at people and robbing people, you're going to be confronted by the police more. As a half black person, black people need to shut the fuck up and work on themselves.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

What's the point of standing for na anywAys?

If you pay your taxes, you do nuff already. This obsession with pledging some sort of "allegiance" by standing n saluting the flag is borderline fascism.

every single country does something similar. what's so bad about giving three minutes of your life once every so often in respect for everything your country has done for you? 3 minutes to think about the people that died for your freedom is not a lot to ask

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

Anyone else think it's ironic that he refuses to stand because of Oppression against black people while he wears Nike gear that was made by people making pennies on the dollar?

 

[YoungBoyd]

'Plenty' means nothing. How many, exactly?

It says 35.000, but it's in 2003.

My logic is that if certain people are 'oppressed' in a country, you wouldn't see more of those same groups migrating, both legally & illegally, to the country where the supposed 'oppression' is taking place, in their droves. For example, homosexuals are actually oppressed in Saudi Arabia, which is why we don't see homosexuals flocking to Saudi Arabia.

Christians ARE oppressed in Saudi Arabia yet they flock there for work. It's even a thread on the frontpage about a bunch of christian lebanese that got kicked out for some bibles. This is where your flaw is, i agree with your other points in this post actually.

The argument isn't that racism doesn't exist in the USA. Of course it does - racism exists in every country on the planet. The argument that this airhead affleet is using is that black people and 'people of colour' are OPPRESSED in the USA. That's a big difference. Racism is one thing, but oppression has to come from some greater power, usually government-backed. Anyone who believes that there is a government-backed oppression of 'people of colour' in the USA is INSANE.

Then you shouldn't have included the word racist in the post. I agree with you that this thing is overblown by the liberal media and it in turn makes this oppression legit in the minds of many people.

But the argument is that non-whites aren't safe living in the West, because of the oppression they have to face. Remember, this moron Kaepernick said that 'people of colour' are OPPRESSED in the USA. That's why he refused to stand for the NATIONAL ANTHEM. He doesn't just think that racism exists in the USA. His argument is that there is a nationwide, government-backed oppression of anyone who is not white, in the USA. He is a moron of the highest degree.

Kaepernick is a moron if he thinks that.

 

[workdiggitz]

Kaepernick sucks and is a moron, but he has every right to burn the flag, flip off our troops or whatever act of protest he wants to perform. In this country, we have the right to say or do a lot of stupid things without fear of government crackdown. In fact, these freedoms are so amazing, it almost makes you want to stand up, place your hand over your heart and pay respect to such great freedoms during the national anthem.

perfectly stated. I respect his freedom of speech, and his right to not stand for the anthem or whatever. I find it kinda stupid and disrespectful. But i still respect his right to do so. That being said just like racists have the right to say what they want, they should be ready for the consequences of saying what they say. i.e. a kkk rally erupting in violence.... wonder why. When kap gets booed by veterans and shit gets thrown at him from the stands and his jersey sales go down he shouldnt be shocked. not that most will care cause hes riding the bench, and turned himself into a pr nightmare that any other team will avoid.

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

Kap is just salty he is about to lose his starting job to a cokehead white dude

 

[goldennirvana]

Christians ARE oppressed in Saudi Arabia yet they flock there for work.

No, they don't. And any Christians that do choose to work there are desperately poor ones who have no choice.

It's even a thread on the frontpage about a bunch of christian lebanese that got kicked out for some bibles. This is where your flaw is, i agree with your other points in this post actually.

My argument is that people who are oppressed don't flock to a country where that oppression is taking place, and that's true. Are Lebanese Christians, or any other Christians, of ALL incomes (lower, middle & upper class), migrating to Saudi Arabia at the same rate non-whites migrate to the USA?

Then you shouldn't have included the word racist in the post. I agree with you that this thing is overblown by the liberal media and it in turn makes this oppression legit in the minds of many people.

I was talking about the USA as a country being racist. Meaning, that a racist system exists which keeps people who are not white down. This is exactly what I said: "The USA is so racist and oppresses 'PoC' so horribly, 'PoC' from around the world constantly migrate there.".

Kaepernick is a moron if he thinks that.

This is the most basic mantra of the SJW cult: 'people of colour' are oppressed in the USA, and 'white people' are the oppressors. When and only when the current 'white supremacist system' is dismantled, can 'people of colour' be truly liberated and free to do as they please.

 

[gspieler]

What exactly is this douche protesting? That racism exists in America? Or that America is institutionally racist? Because the former isn't illegal, and is common among all races. The latter doesn't exist(to any significant degree). In actuality, the only forms of legal discrimination remaining are generally directed at white males.

 

[Cuzcatlan]

You wouldn't get an analyst job if you had brain damage.

 

[Snake_Plissken]

Who cared about him before? Why care about him now? Let him have his stand off so he can go back to his troll cave.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

These guys aren't at Jim McMahon level so they can be put on TV. This is the best legendary football players can hope for.

Lots of guys can never be on tv because they're in such bad shape.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

American sports athletes are largely uneducated, despite being given scholarships, and are generally stupid and self-important. Why Americans care what any of them have to say is beyond me, also throw in the movie stars/musicians. This being a story is more an indictment of American culture and media than anything. Bunch of celebrity jock-riding horseshit.

Why should anyone care what you have to say???

Hell I'd rather listen to an actor or an athlete than some random on the Internet.

 

[HereticBD]

"The NFL is a slave trade."


- Multi-multi-multi-millionaire retired star football player, Warren Sapp.