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You not knowing what the hell you are talking about, We all knew it.


LOL, a few school makes huge money, most don't

And yea $50,000 a year tuition paid for, Meal plans, dorms, stipends, etc.

Yea, current day slaves.


from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget




http://www.ethosreview.org/intellectual-spaces/is-college-football-profitable/


The standard narrative about the profitability of football for non-athletic arenas of the university is also a series of half-truths. Back to Alabama football. Of the $110 million of football revenue, less than $6.5 million went to the university to pay for scholarships, faculty support, and the Acts of Kindness fund. In other words, 5.9% of the football program’s revenue goes toward “academic programming.” However, even that percentage of the revenue given to academics isn’t entirely divorced from athletics, because universities often fold a portion of those funds back into athletic scholarships. The football program at the University of Florida, for example, contributed $7.2 million to academic programing, while only $1.5 million of that revenue was earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. The muddled—perhaps diluted—contribution of revenue from football is particularly dubious when athletics received a $2 million dollar increase in their budget at the same time as the University eliminated its Computer Science Department in 2012 to save $1.4 million. Furthermore, when the University’s “education and general” expenditures amount to $524.6 million, the $7.2 million of revenue generated by the football team is far from a critical source of funds. While there’s certainly truth to the idea of non-athletic “profitability” among certain top-tier football schools, it’s a slim and muddied percentage of the program’s actual revenue. In fact, the real money to be made by big-time college football is actually found outside the university. (But that’s an issue for another post…)
What’s more, there’s actually a kind of hierarchy among the top-tier football programs. According to Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian, authors of The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football (2013),figures from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget, rather than generate net revenue. (The NCAA’s figures are, perhaps predictably, less damning with just over half the teams generating profit.) Benedict and Keteyian’s figures suggest that the overwhelming majority of top-tier athletic departments require their universities to allocate funds from elsewhere in the school’s budget for the sake of football. Thus, the myth that college football generates revenue for universities is a lie 82% of the time among the highest grossing “tier” of teams.
It’s true that a recent study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech demonstrates that there’s a kind of cyclical relationship in which major success (not just a 7-5 season) corresponds to a bump in enrollment and, consequently, a bump in ticket revenue the following year. Yet in order for universities to feel this bump, their football team had to finish in the AP Top 20—that is, only 16% of the FBS schools. What’s more, this bump is hardly noticeable in smaller schools outside the FBS that have successful seasons. Instead, it’s confined to a relatively static coterie of the NCAA Division 1 “football” universities. Only a few schools see this bump each year, while the vast majority will go years—even decades—with unsuccessful seasons. That translates into years upon years of unprofitable athletic expenditures, requiring money from elsewhere in the university’s budget to subsidize football. (If that’s the picture among the top-tier teams, the picture outside NCAA Division 1 schools is not just muddy—it’s outright bleak. It’s quite rare for teams outside the FBS to be profitable, and they are virtually never consistently profitable.)
The only other way in which the standard narrative does seem to hold water is that state legislators tend to appropriate more funds for universities with winning football programs. For reasons that I’ll restrain myself from speculating about, legislators think that public universities need more money when they win at football. However, this bump in state funding is not reliable from year to year due to the vicissitudes of each season, and it’s often the case that universities will go years (during which their athletic departments are possibly in the red) without experiencing the benevolence of football-loving state legislators.
But what about alumni? Surely wealthy donors give more to the university when a football team is successful? Actually, the bump in alumni giving—at best a 1% increase during especially successful years—doesn’t appear to offset the expenditures of a major college football program. You have to spend more to get more. And the majority of the revenue from success is absorbed back into the football program itself. In other words, research into big-time collegiate sports demonstrates that a horrible football team doesn’t hurt alumni giving, even if it has a negative effect upon a university’s budget. There’s yet to be a longitudinal study on the economic vicissitudes of winning and losing seasons, but the studies we do have so far tend to suggest that the rare


There’s a standard narrative fueling the big business of college football. Many of its advocates put it like this: football programs generate so much revenue for the university, while also supporting “non-revenue” sports like golf and swimming from its own budgetary excess, that college football is its own justification for the large team budgets and coaches’ salaries. Because alumni are much more generous during years when football teams win, academic programming benefits as well. Indeed, so this standard narrative goes, both the jump in admissions applications and the wider “public relations” effect that accompanies a football program cause munificent ripples throughout a university’s stream of income. Many even maintain that football helps to subsidize the obscure and non-remunerative activities of colleges—research into the reproductive biology of ducks and eighteenth-century German poetry, for example. Without a football program, scholarship money would plummet and applicants would flock elsewhere in search of universities with better “student life” opportunities.
Like most standard narratives, this one’s built upon a series of half-truths. Yet many sports media outlets make it difficult to get the full picture about college football. In reality, the top tier of revenue-generating football teams (about 8% of them) presents a drastically different picture than the middle-of-the-road teams (about 12%), and certainly a combined top- and middle-tier picture is completely inapplicable to the lower tier of revenue among football programs (the remaining 80%). When Forbes or ESPN discuss this issue, they tend to do so based upon the top 8% of teams—a top tier that virtually never expands.
Let’s leave aside the vast majority of American college football programs and focus for a moment on the profitability of this top tier. The so-called top tier is comprised of just over 120 teams in the NCAA Division 1-A, now known more commonly as the Football Bowl Series (FBS) programs. While there is supposedly astronomical revenue to be made for universities in this tier, the idea of “profitability” among these programs is actually very muddy. Take the University of Alabama’s football team, for example, which had the third highest revenue during the 2011-2012 season, generating $110 million. While a typical SEC program spends around $27 million on its football team each year, Alabama reported about $41.5 million of operational expenses. Those expenses do not include the athletic department’s debt service payments, which would have added about $13 million more to its overall expenses. There was also $37 million of the athletic department’s budget not allocated to any particular sport or gender of athlete, and it’s not clear how much of that piece of the pie football received.
The information recorded by the U.S. Department of Education shows that Alabama football did indeed subsidize almost all other sports at the university. Basketball was the only other team in the black, bringing in $12 million while its expenses were only $6 million. The deficit for all women’s teams combined, for example, was just under $9 million. While these allocations also show that a good portion of Alabama football’s $110 million goes toward offsetting the costs of having a big-time athletic department, the data also shows that some top-tier football programs do in fact use a significant portion of its revenue to provide for the expenses of most of the athletic department. Yet that’s actually a rarity. For example, at Marshall University—a smaller top-tier program with a storied history—the expenses of the football team ($7,083,399) nearly wash out their revenue ($7,760,381). The remaining “football” revenue only marginally supports the expenses of other sports. Or, at Texas State University-San Marcos, a far less competitive football program at a university with enrollment numbers comparable to the University of Alabama, the revenue and expenses were both reported as exactly $5,633,155. The point is that once you get out of the upper echelon of the top tier—let’s call it the football 1%—the sport is hardly profitable for itself, much less for universities.
The standard narrative about the profitability of football for non-athletic arenas of the university is also a series of half-truths. Back to Alabama football. Of the $110 million of football revenue, less than $6.5 million went to the university to pay for scholarships, faculty support, and the Acts of Kindness fund. In other words, 5.9% of the football program’s revenue goes toward “academic programming.” However, even that percentage of the revenue given to academics isn’t entirely divorced from athletics, because universities often fold a portion of those funds back into athletic scholarships. The football program at the University of Florida, for example, contributed $7.2 million to academic programing, while only $1.5 million of that revenue was earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. The muddled—perhaps diluted—contribution of revenue from football is particularly dubious when athletics received a $2 million dollar increase in their budget at the same time as the University eliminated its Computer Science Department in 2012 to save $1.4 million. Furthermore, when the University’s “education and general” expenditures amount to $524.6 million, the $7.2 million of revenue generated by the football team is far from a critical source of funds. While there’s certainly truth to the idea of non-athletic “profitability” among certain top-tier football schools, it’s a slim and muddied percentage of the program’s actual revenue. In fact, the real money to be made by big-time college football is actually found outside the university. (But that’s an issue for another post…)
What’s more, there’s actually a kind of hierarchy among the top-tier football programs. According to Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian, authors of The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football (2013),figures from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget, rather than generate net revenue. (The NCAA’s figures are, perhaps predictably, less damning with just over half the teams generating profit.) Benedict and Keteyian’s figures suggest that the overwhelming majority of top-tier athletic departments require their universities to allocate funds from elsewhere in the school’s budget for the sake of football. Thus, the myth that college football generates revenue for universities is a lie 82% of the time among the highest grossing “tier” of teams.
It’s true that a recent study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech demonstrates that there’s a kind of cyclical relationship in which major success (not just a 7-5 season) corresponds to a bump in enrollment and, consequently, a bump in ticket revenue the following year. Yet in order for universities to feel this bump, their football team had to finish in the AP Top 20—that is, only 16% of the FBS schools. What’s more, this bump is hardly noticeable in smaller schools outside the FBS that have successful seasons. Instead, it’s confined to a relatively static coterie of the NCAA Division 1 “football” universities. Only a few schools see this bump each year, while the vast majority will go years—even decades—with unsuccessful seasons. That translates into years upon years of unprofitable athletic expenditures, requiring money from elsewhere in the university’s budget to subsidize football. (If that’s the picture among the top-tier teams, the picture outside NCAA Division 1 schools is not just muddy—it’s outright bleak. It’s quite rare for teams outside the FBS to be profitable, and they are virtually never consistently profitable.)
The only other way in which the standard narrative does seem to hold water is that state legislators tend to appropriate more funds for universities with winning football programs. For reasons that I’ll restrain myself from speculating about, legislators think that public universities need more money when they win at football. However, this bump in state funding is not reliable from year to year due to the vicissitudes of each season, and it’s often the case that universities will go years (during which their athletic departments are possibly in the red) without experiencing the benevolence of football-loving state legislators.
But what about alumni? Surely wealthy donors give more to the university when a football team is successful? Actually, the bump in alumni giving—at best a 1% increase during especially successful years—doesn’t appear to offset the expenditures of a major college football program. You have to spend more to get more. And the majority of the revenue from success is absorbed back into the football program itself. In other words, research into big-time collegiate sports demonstrates that a horrible football team doesn’t hurt alumni giving, even if it has a negative effect upon a university’s budget. There’s yet to be a longitudinal study on the economic vicissitudes of winning and losing seasons, but the studies we do have so far tend to suggest that the rare jumps in revenue don’t offset the losing, average, or slightly above average seasons that mark college football history for the vast majority of teams. The justification for the current system of college football cannot be the revenue it creates for universities. That’s only true for the football 1%. Why do the rest of our schools accede to the system?
On the other hand, it’s perhaps worth asking: Is the fact that football isn’t profitable—or only for a rare and nearly unchanging few—necessarily a bad thing? Large portions of the student body love football, right? Even if this whole “student body” argument were true—and it’s probably not—Benedict and Keteyian put the problem in the following stark terms:
Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) schools spent more than $91,000 per athlete compared with just over $13,000 per student. Yet students across the country faced steep tuition hikes and increased fees.
Football student-athletes receive the lion’s share of a university’s funds, while only rarely do football teams generate revenue that supports non-athletic students. Usually, as recent reports suggest is the case at Berkeley, football is housed within the university at the expense of academics. Students pay more tuition while administrators feel caught in the double bind of a “spending race” with other schools. The truth is that diminishing research budgets, the administrative erosion of the tenure system, the economic efficiency of adjunct labor, and rising tuition costs all subsidize the American college football system.
Ben Mangrum is a doctoral candidate in English at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In addition to editing Ethos, Ben also writes for the project on politics, the business of sports, contemporary novels, and the academy. His academic work mostly involves twentieth-century literature, philosophy, and religion.
Thank you for shitting on his chest.
 
If I had a deep rooted disrespect for the country I lived in, I wouldn't just sit during a song before I earn millions of dollars in that very same country. If you really care, do something meaningful. This is an empty gesture.

If I had that kind of wealth, I would live elsewhere if I believed my country was oppressive.
Its like Beyonce going Black Panther during the Super Bowl halftime. An empty gesture.
 
I'm sorry, but if you want to illustrate oppression in America, you can't belong to the 1%. All these self righteous celebs who are perfect illustrations of how blacks aren't oppressed in America try to shit on the country that made them rich because its become a fad.

Ridiculous.

He is half white
 
A half-white guy, adopted by white parents, who made it into the NFL and got promoted by a white coach to the starting job over a white quarterback who was 10-1 that season, is attempting to make a stand against black oppression in a country where a HALF-WHITE man is president.

Makes sense. </sarcasm

CHANGED IT FOR YOU
 
My first reaction is to call this guy a moron, however there's no way he could be informed on these issues. Plus he was almost definitely directed to do this.

What you guys who share the same opinions as me have to understand is that we go online most nights and spend an hour or two minimum reading about politics and forming opinions on issues based on information not reported in MSM.

I'd say most pro athletes don't have the time to look read beyond a headline. This guy would be too busy training, and if the news and all the people around him are saying that there's this big racism issue, then why would he (or the average person for that matter) think to question it?
 
If blacks were oppressed he wouldn't be a gajillionaire. Same with Jesse Williams.

There are poor people of every race. Oppression is not the cause, poor life choices are. And he was rescued from poor life choices his parents made so maybe he should show some gratitude.

He also shit on the graves of dead soldiers by not standing for the anthem.
Shitting on Graves sounds like the name of a metal band.
 
I'm sorry, but if you want to illustrate oppression in America, you can't belong to the 1%. All these self righteous celebs who are perfect illustrations of how blacks aren't oppressed in America try to shit on the country that made them rich because its become a fad.

Ridiculous.


You can, like Ali did, but you have to have some skin in the game.

Taking controversial actions with zero consequence, while being a millionaire is an empty meaningless gesture, as likely to be a PR move as a principled stance.

Put some skin in the game sports stars, go get arrested for what you believe.
 
white and European,so I don't really see the race angle like americans do......standing for the national anthem at sporting events and such is brainwashing nonsense,regardless the colour of your skin.
 
You not knowing what the hell you are talking about, We all knew it.


LOL, a few school makes huge money, most don't

And yea $50,000 a year tuition paid for, Meal plans, dorms, stipends, etc.

Yea, current day slaves.


from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget




http://www.ethosreview.org/intellectual-spaces/is-college-football-profitable/


The standard narrative about the profitability of football for non-athletic arenas of the university is also a series of half-truths. Back to Alabama football. Of the $110 million of football revenue, less than $6.5 million went to the university to pay for scholarships, faculty support, and the Acts of Kindness fund. In other words, 5.9% of the football program’s revenue goes toward “academic programming.” However, even that percentage of the revenue given to academics isn’t entirely divorced from athletics, because universities often fold a portion of those funds back into athletic scholarships. The football program at the University of Florida, for example, contributed $7.2 million to academic programing, while only $1.5 million of that revenue was earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. The muddled—perhaps diluted—contribution of revenue from football is particularly dubious when athletics received a $2 million dollar increase in their budget at the same time as the University eliminated its Computer Science Department in 2012 to save $1.4 million. Furthermore, when the University’s “education and general” expenditures amount to $524.6 million, the $7.2 million of revenue generated by the football team is far from a critical source of funds. While there’s certainly truth to the idea of non-athletic “profitability” among certain top-tier football schools, it’s a slim and muddied percentage of the program’s actual revenue. In fact, the real money to be made by big-time college football is actually found outside the university. (But that’s an issue for another post…)
What’s more, there’s actually a kind of hierarchy among the top-tier football programs. According to Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian, authors of The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football (2013),figures from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget, rather than generate net revenue. (The NCAA’s figures are, perhaps predictably, less damning with just over half the teams generating profit.) Benedict and Keteyian’s figures suggest that the overwhelming majority of top-tier athletic departments require their universities to allocate funds from elsewhere in the school’s budget for the sake of football. Thus, the myth that college football generates revenue for universities is a lie 82% of the time among the highest grossing “tier” of teams.
It’s true that a recent study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech demonstrates that there’s a kind of cyclical relationship in which major success (not just a 7-5 season) corresponds to a bump in enrollment and, consequently, a bump in ticket revenue the following year. Yet in order for universities to feel this bump, their football team had to finish in the AP Top 20—that is, only 16% of the FBS schools. What’s more, this bump is hardly noticeable in smaller schools outside the FBS that have successful seasons. Instead, it’s confined to a relatively static coterie of the NCAA Division 1 “football” universities. Only a few schools see this bump each year, while the vast majority will go years—even decades—with unsuccessful seasons. That translates into years upon years of unprofitable athletic expenditures, requiring money from elsewhere in the university’s budget to subsidize football. (If that’s the picture among the top-tier teams, the picture outside NCAA Division 1 schools is not just muddy—it’s outright bleak. It’s quite rare for teams outside the FBS to be profitable, and they are virtually never consistently profitable.)
The only other way in which the standard narrative does seem to hold water is that state legislators tend to appropriate more funds for universities with winning football programs. For reasons that I’ll restrain myself from speculating about, legislators think that public universities need more money when they win at football. However, this bump in state funding is not reliable from year to year due to the vicissitudes of each season, and it’s often the case that universities will go years (during which their athletic departments are possibly in the red) without experiencing the benevolence of football-loving state legislators.
But what about alumni? Surely wealthy donors give more to the university when a football team is successful? Actually, the bump in alumni giving—at best a 1% increase during especially successful years—doesn’t appear to offset the expenditures of a major college football program. You have to spend more to get more. And the majority of the revenue from success is absorbed back into the football program itself. In other words, research into big-time collegiate sports demonstrates that a horrible football team doesn’t hurt alumni giving, even if it has a negative effect upon a university’s budget. There’s yet to be a longitudinal study on the economic vicissitudes of winning and losing seasons, but the studies we do have so far tend to suggest that the rare


There’s a standard narrative fueling the big business of college football. Many of its advocates put it like this: football programs generate so much revenue for the university, while also supporting “non-revenue” sports like golf and swimming from its own budgetary excess, that college football is its own justification for the large team budgets and coaches’ salaries. Because alumni are much more generous during years when football teams win, academic programming benefits as well. Indeed, so this standard narrative goes, both the jump in admissions applications and the wider “public relations” effect that accompanies a football program cause munificent ripples throughout a university’s stream of income. Many even maintain that football helps to subsidize the obscure and non-remunerative activities of colleges—research into the reproductive biology of ducks and eighteenth-century German poetry, for example. Without a football program, scholarship money would plummet and applicants would flock elsewhere in search of universities with better “student life” opportunities.
Like most standard narratives, this one’s built upon a series of half-truths. Yet many sports media outlets make it difficult to get the full picture about college football. In reality, the top tier of revenue-generating football teams (about 8% of them) presents a drastically different picture than the middle-of-the-road teams (about 12%), and certainly a combined top- and middle-tier picture is completely inapplicable to the lower tier of revenue among football programs (the remaining 80%). When Forbes or ESPN discuss this issue, they tend to do so based upon the top 8% of teams—a top tier that virtually never expands.
Let’s leave aside the vast majority of American college football programs and focus for a moment on the profitability of this top tier. The so-called top tier is comprised of just over 120 teams in the NCAA Division 1-A, now known more commonly as the Football Bowl Series (FBS) programs. While there is supposedly astronomical revenue to be made for universities in this tier, the idea of “profitability” among these programs is actually very muddy. Take the University of Alabama’s football team, for example, which had the third highest revenue during the 2011-2012 season, generating $110 million. While a typical SEC program spends around $27 million on its football team each year, Alabama reported about $41.5 million of operational expenses. Those expenses do not include the athletic department’s debt service payments, which would have added about $13 million more to its overall expenses. There was also $37 million of the athletic department’s budget not allocated to any particular sport or gender of athlete, and it’s not clear how much of that piece of the pie football received.
The information recorded by the U.S. Department of Education shows that Alabama football did indeed subsidize almost all other sports at the university. Basketball was the only other team in the black, bringing in $12 million while its expenses were only $6 million. The deficit for all women’s teams combined, for example, was just under $9 million. While these allocations also show that a good portion of Alabama football’s $110 million goes toward offsetting the costs of having a big-time athletic department, the data also shows that some top-tier football programs do in fact use a significant portion of its revenue to provide for the expenses of most of the athletic department. Yet that’s actually a rarity. For example, at Marshall University—a smaller top-tier program with a storied history—the expenses of the football team ($7,083,399) nearly wash out their revenue ($7,760,381). The remaining “football” revenue only marginally supports the expenses of other sports. Or, at Texas State University-San Marcos, a far less competitive football program at a university with enrollment numbers comparable to the University of Alabama, the revenue and expenses were both reported as exactly $5,633,155. The point is that once you get out of the upper echelon of the top tier—let’s call it the football 1%—the sport is hardly profitable for itself, much less for universities.
The standard narrative about the profitability of football for non-athletic arenas of the university is also a series of half-truths. Back to Alabama football. Of the $110 million of football revenue, less than $6.5 million went to the university to pay for scholarships, faculty support, and the Acts of Kindness fund. In other words, 5.9% of the football program’s revenue goes toward “academic programming.” However, even that percentage of the revenue given to academics isn’t entirely divorced from athletics, because universities often fold a portion of those funds back into athletic scholarships. The football program at the University of Florida, for example, contributed $7.2 million to academic programing, while only $1.5 million of that revenue was earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. The muddled—perhaps diluted—contribution of revenue from football is particularly dubious when athletics received a $2 million dollar increase in their budget at the same time as the University eliminated its Computer Science Department in 2012 to save $1.4 million. Furthermore, when the University’s “education and general” expenditures amount to $524.6 million, the $7.2 million of revenue generated by the football team is far from a critical source of funds. While there’s certainly truth to the idea of non-athletic “profitability” among certain top-tier football schools, it’s a slim and muddied percentage of the program’s actual revenue. In fact, the real money to be made by big-time college football is actually found outside the university. (But that’s an issue for another post…)
What’s more, there’s actually a kind of hierarchy among the top-tier football programs. According to Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian, authors of The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football (2013),figures from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget, rather than generate net revenue. (The NCAA’s figures are, perhaps predictably, less damning with just over half the teams generating profit.) Benedict and Keteyian’s figures suggest that the overwhelming majority of top-tier athletic departments require their universities to allocate funds from elsewhere in the school’s budget for the sake of football. Thus, the myth that college football generates revenue for universities is a lie 82% of the time among the highest grossing “tier” of teams.
It’s true that a recent study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech demonstrates that there’s a kind of cyclical relationship in which major success (not just a 7-5 season) corresponds to a bump in enrollment and, consequently, a bump in ticket revenue the following year. Yet in order for universities to feel this bump, their football team had to finish in the AP Top 20—that is, only 16% of the FBS schools. What’s more, this bump is hardly noticeable in smaller schools outside the FBS that have successful seasons. Instead, it’s confined to a relatively static coterie of the NCAA Division 1 “football” universities. Only a few schools see this bump each year, while the vast majority will go years—even decades—with unsuccessful seasons. That translates into years upon years of unprofitable athletic expenditures, requiring money from elsewhere in the university’s budget to subsidize football. (If that’s the picture among the top-tier teams, the picture outside NCAA Division 1 schools is not just muddy—it’s outright bleak. It’s quite rare for teams outside the FBS to be profitable, and they are virtually never consistently profitable.)
The only other way in which the standard narrative does seem to hold water is that state legislators tend to appropriate more funds for universities with winning football programs. For reasons that I’ll restrain myself from speculating about, legislators think that public universities need more money when they win at football. However, this bump in state funding is not reliable from year to year due to the vicissitudes of each season, and it’s often the case that universities will go years (during which their athletic departments are possibly in the red) without experiencing the benevolence of football-loving state legislators.
But what about alumni? Surely wealthy donors give more to the university when a football team is successful? Actually, the bump in alumni giving—at best a 1% increase during especially successful years—doesn’t appear to offset the expenditures of a major college football program. You have to spend more to get more. And the majority of the revenue from success is absorbed back into the football program itself. In other words, research into big-time collegiate sports demonstrates that a horrible football team doesn’t hurt alumni giving, even if it has a negative effect upon a university’s budget. There’s yet to be a longitudinal study on the economic vicissitudes of winning and losing seasons, but the studies we do have so far tend to suggest that the rare jumps in revenue don’t offset the losing, average, or slightly above average seasons that mark college football history for the vast majority of teams. The justification for the current system of college football cannot be the revenue it creates for universities. That’s only true for the football 1%. Why do the rest of our schools accede to the system?
On the other hand, it’s perhaps worth asking: Is the fact that football isn’t profitable—or only for a rare and nearly unchanging few—necessarily a bad thing? Large portions of the student body love football, right? Even if this whole “student body” argument were true—and it’s probably not—Benedict and Keteyian put the problem in the following stark terms:
Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) schools spent more than $91,000 per athlete compared with just over $13,000 per student. Yet students across the country faced steep tuition hikes and increased fees.
Football student-athletes receive the lion’s share of a university’s funds, while only rarely do football teams generate revenue that supports non-athletic students. Usually, as recent reports suggest is the case at Berkeley, football is housed within the university at the expense of academics. Students pay more tuition while administrators feel caught in the double bind of a “spending race” with other schools. The truth is that diminishing research budgets, the administrative erosion of the tenure system, the economic efficiency of adjunct labor, and rising tuition costs all subsidize the American college football system.
Ben Mangrum is a doctoral candidate in English at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In addition to editing Ethos, Ben also writes for the project on politics, the business of sports, contemporary novels, and the academy. His academic work mostly involves twentieth-century literature, philosophy, and religion.


Big Ten and Big East schools make a fortune off their athletes.


I wasn't even specifically talking about paying players, I was simply saying they're exploited. Especially in football, where brain injuries are common in the sport.

Football stands out because of its constant brutality.
 
You not knowing what the hell you are talking about, We all knew it.


LOL, a few school makes huge money, most don't

And yea $50,000 a year tuition paid for, Meal plans, dorms, stipends, etc.

Yea, current day slaves.


from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget




http://www.ethosreview.org/intellectual-spaces/is-college-football-profitable/


The standard narrative about the profitability of football for non-athletic arenas of the university is also a series of half-truths. Back to Alabama football. Of the $110 million of football revenue, less than $6.5 million went to the university to pay for scholarships, faculty support, and the Acts of Kindness fund. In other words, 5.9% of the football program’s revenue goes toward “academic programming.” However, even that percentage of the revenue given to academics isn’t entirely divorced from athletics, because universities often fold a portion of those funds back into athletic scholarships. The football program at the University of Florida, for example, contributed $7.2 million to academic programing, while only $1.5 million of that revenue was earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. The muddled—perhaps diluted—contribution of revenue from football is particularly dubious when athletics received a $2 million dollar increase in their budget at the same time as the University eliminated its Computer Science Department in 2012 to save $1.4 million. Furthermore, when the University’s “education and general” expenditures amount to $524.6 million, the $7.2 million of revenue generated by the football team is far from a critical source of funds. While there’s certainly truth to the idea of non-athletic “profitability” among certain top-tier football schools, it’s a slim and muddied percentage of the program’s actual revenue. In fact, the real money to be made by big-time college football is actually found outside the university. (But that’s an issue for another post…)
What’s more, there’s actually a kind of hierarchy among the top-tier football programs. According to Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian, authors of The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football (2013),figures from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget, rather than generate net revenue. (The NCAA’s figures are, perhaps predictably, less damning with just over half the teams generating profit.) Benedict and Keteyian’s figures suggest that the overwhelming majority of top-tier athletic departments require their universities to allocate funds from elsewhere in the school’s budget for the sake of football. Thus, the myth that college football generates revenue for universities is a lie 82% of the time among the highest grossing “tier” of teams.
It’s true that a recent study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech demonstrates that there’s a kind of cyclical relationship in which major success (not just a 7-5 season) corresponds to a bump in enrollment and, consequently, a bump in ticket revenue the following year. Yet in order for universities to feel this bump, their football team had to finish in the AP Top 20—that is, only 16% of the FBS schools. What’s more, this bump is hardly noticeable in smaller schools outside the FBS that have successful seasons. Instead, it’s confined to a relatively static coterie of the NCAA Division 1 “football” universities. Only a few schools see this bump each year, while the vast majority will go years—even decades—with unsuccessful seasons. That translates into years upon years of unprofitable athletic expenditures, requiring money from elsewhere in the university’s budget to subsidize football. (If that’s the picture among the top-tier teams, the picture outside NCAA Division 1 schools is not just muddy—it’s outright bleak. It’s quite rare for teams outside the FBS to be profitable, and they are virtually never consistently profitable.)
The only other way in which the standard narrative does seem to hold water is that state legislators tend to appropriate more funds for universities with winning football programs. For reasons that I’ll restrain myself from speculating about, legislators think that public universities need more money when they win at football. However, this bump in state funding is not reliable from year to year due to the vicissitudes of each season, and it’s often the case that universities will go years (during which their athletic departments are possibly in the red) without experiencing the benevolence of football-loving state legislators.
But what about alumni? Surely wealthy donors give more to the university when a football team is successful? Actually, the bump in alumni giving—at best a 1% increase during especially successful years—doesn’t appear to offset the expenditures of a major college football program. You have to spend more to get more. And the majority of the revenue from success is absorbed back into the football program itself. In other words, research into big-time collegiate sports demonstrates that a horrible football team doesn’t hurt alumni giving, even if it has a negative effect upon a university’s budget. There’s yet to be a longitudinal study on the economic vicissitudes of winning and losing seasons, but the studies we do have so far tend to suggest that the rare


There’s a standard narrative fueling the big business of college football. Many of its advocates put it like this: football programs generate so much revenue for the university, while also supporting “non-revenue” sports like golf and swimming from its own budgetary excess, that college football is its own justification for the large team budgets and coaches’ salaries. Because alumni are much more generous during years when football teams win, academic programming benefits as well. Indeed, so this standard narrative goes, both the jump in admissions applications and the wider “public relations” effect that accompanies a football program cause munificent ripples throughout a university’s stream of income. Many even maintain that football helps to subsidize the obscure and non-remunerative activities of colleges—research into the reproductive biology of ducks and eighteenth-century German poetry, for example. Without a football program, scholarship money would plummet and applicants would flock elsewhere in search of universities with better “student life” opportunities.
Like most standard narratives, this one’s built upon a series of half-truths. Yet many sports media outlets make it difficult to get the full picture about college football. In reality, the top tier of revenue-generating football teams (about 8% of them) presents a drastically different picture than the middle-of-the-road teams (about 12%), and certainly a combined top- and middle-tier picture is completely inapplicable to the lower tier of revenue among football programs (the remaining 80%). When Forbes or ESPN discuss this issue, they tend to do so based upon the top 8% of teams—a top tier that virtually never expands.
Let’s leave aside the vast majority of American college football programs and focus for a moment on the profitability of this top tier. The so-called top tier is comprised of just over 120 teams in the NCAA Division 1-A, now known more commonly as the Football Bowl Series (FBS) programs. While there is supposedly astronomical revenue to be made for universities in this tier, the idea of “profitability” among these programs is actually very muddy. Take the University of Alabama’s football team, for example, which had the third highest revenue during the 2011-2012 season, generating $110 million. While a typical SEC program spends around $27 million on its football team each year, Alabama reported about $41.5 million of operational expenses. Those expenses do not include the athletic department’s debt service payments, which would have added about $13 million more to its overall expenses. There was also $37 million of the athletic department’s budget not allocated to any particular sport or gender of athlete, and it’s not clear how much of that piece of the pie football received.
The information recorded by the U.S. Department of Education shows that Alabama football did indeed subsidize almost all other sports at the university. Basketball was the only other team in the black, bringing in $12 million while its expenses were only $6 million. The deficit for all women’s teams combined, for example, was just under $9 million. While these allocations also show that a good portion of Alabama football’s $110 million goes toward offsetting the costs of having a big-time athletic department, the data also shows that some top-tier football programs do in fact use a significant portion of its revenue to provide for the expenses of most of the athletic department. Yet that’s actually a rarity. For example, at Marshall University—a smaller top-tier program with a storied history—the expenses of the football team ($7,083,399) nearly wash out their revenue ($7,760,381). The remaining “football” revenue only marginally supports the expenses of other sports. Or, at Texas State University-San Marcos, a far less competitive football program at a university with enrollment numbers comparable to the University of Alabama, the revenue and expenses were both reported as exactly $5,633,155. The point is that once you get out of the upper echelon of the top tier—let’s call it the football 1%—the sport is hardly profitable for itself, much less for universities.
The standard narrative about the profitability of football for non-athletic arenas of the university is also a series of half-truths. Back to Alabama football. Of the $110 million of football revenue, less than $6.5 million went to the university to pay for scholarships, faculty support, and the Acts of Kindness fund. In other words, 5.9% of the football program’s revenue goes toward “academic programming.” However, even that percentage of the revenue given to academics isn’t entirely divorced from athletics, because universities often fold a portion of those funds back into athletic scholarships. The football program at the University of Florida, for example, contributed $7.2 million to academic programing, while only $1.5 million of that revenue was earmarked for non-athletic scholarships. The muddled—perhaps diluted—contribution of revenue from football is particularly dubious when athletics received a $2 million dollar increase in their budget at the same time as the University eliminated its Computer Science Department in 2012 to save $1.4 million. Furthermore, when the University’s “education and general” expenditures amount to $524.6 million, the $7.2 million of revenue generated by the football team is far from a critical source of funds. While there’s certainly truth to the idea of non-athletic “profitability” among certain top-tier football schools, it’s a slim and muddied percentage of the program’s actual revenue. In fact, the real money to be made by big-time college football is actually found outside the university. (But that’s an issue for another post…)
What’s more, there’s actually a kind of hierarchy among the top-tier football programs. According to Jeff Benedict and Armen Keteyian, authors of The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football (2013),figures from the 2010-11 academic year show that only 22 of the 120 top-tier football programs broke even or made a profit. That means that while these big-time teams generate millions of dollars of revenue, the cost of running such programs usually exceeds that revenue. To put that more starkly, even within the so-called top tier, 82% of college football teams actually take away money from the university’s budget, rather than generate net revenue. (The NCAA’s figures are, perhaps predictably, less damning with just over half the teams generating profit.) Benedict and Keteyian’s figures suggest that the overwhelming majority of top-tier athletic departments require their universities to allocate funds from elsewhere in the school’s budget for the sake of football. Thus, the myth that college football generates revenue for universities is a lie 82% of the time among the highest grossing “tier” of teams.
It’s true that a recent study from researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech demonstrates that there’s a kind of cyclical relationship in which major success (not just a 7-5 season) corresponds to a bump in enrollment and, consequently, a bump in ticket revenue the following year. Yet in order for universities to feel this bump, their football team had to finish in the AP Top 20—that is, only 16% of the FBS schools. What’s more, this bump is hardly noticeable in smaller schools outside the FBS that have successful seasons. Instead, it’s confined to a relatively static coterie of the NCAA Division 1 “football” universities. Only a few schools see this bump each year, while the vast majority will go years—even decades—with unsuccessful seasons. That translates into years upon years of unprofitable athletic expenditures, requiring money from elsewhere in the university’s budget to subsidize football. (If that’s the picture among the top-tier teams, the picture outside NCAA Division 1 schools is not just muddy—it’s outright bleak. It’s quite rare for teams outside the FBS to be profitable, and they are virtually never consistently profitable.)
The only other way in which the standard narrative does seem to hold water is that state legislators tend to appropriate more funds for universities with winning football programs. For reasons that I’ll restrain myself from speculating about, legislators think that public universities need more money when they win at football. However, this bump in state funding is not reliable from year to year due to the vicissitudes of each season, and it’s often the case that universities will go years (during which their athletic departments are possibly in the red) without experiencing the benevolence of football-loving state legislators.
But what about alumni? Surely wealthy donors give more to the university when a football team is successful? Actually, the bump in alumni giving—at best a 1% increase during especially successful years—doesn’t appear to offset the expenditures of a major college football program. You have to spend more to get more. And the majority of the revenue from success is absorbed back into the football program itself. In other words, research into big-time collegiate sports demonstrates that a horrible football team doesn’t hurt alumni giving, even if it has a negative effect upon a university’s budget. There’s yet to be a longitudinal study on the economic vicissitudes of winning and losing seasons, but the studies we do have so far tend to suggest that the rare jumps in revenue don’t offset the losing, average, or slightly above average seasons that mark college football history for the vast majority of teams. The justification for the current system of college football cannot be the revenue it creates for universities. That’s only true for the football 1%. Why do the rest of our schools accede to the system?
On the other hand, it’s perhaps worth asking: Is the fact that football isn’t profitable—or only for a rare and nearly unchanging few—necessarily a bad thing? Large portions of the student body love football, right? Even if this whole “student body” argument were true—and it’s probably not—Benedict and Keteyian put the problem in the following stark terms:
Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) schools spent more than $91,000 per athlete compared with just over $13,000 per student. Yet students across the country faced steep tuition hikes and increased fees.
Football student-athletes receive the lion’s share of a university’s funds, while only rarely do football teams generate revenue that supports non-athletic students. Usually, as recent reports suggest is the case at Berkeley, football is housed within the university at the expense of academics. Students pay more tuition while administrators feel caught in the double bind of a “spending race” with other schools. The truth is that diminishing research budgets, the administrative erosion of the tenure system, the economic efficiency of adjunct labor, and rising tuition costs all subsidize the American college football system.
Ben Mangrum is a doctoral candidate in English at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In addition to editing Ethos, Ben also writes for the project on politics, the business of sports, contemporary novels, and the academy. His academic work mostly involves twentieth-century literature, philosophy, and religion.

Whats wrong with the free market? Schools should be able to pay players what they believe that players are worth.
 
Big Ten and Big East schools make a fortune off their athletes.


I wasn't even specifically talking about paying players, I was simply saying they're exploited. Especially in football, where brain injuries are common in the sport.

Football stands out because of its constant brutality.
Hey I actually think they should get paid more, I just don;t like that people think they play for free.

My issue is can these people actually make it in school when it is apparent that many dont want to be there or shouldn't (grade wise).

You can look at it two ways, Either as a form of AA, more black men and women are getting degrees (if they make it through) or you are setting them up for failure if they can't pass the classes and aren't a superstar.

Most people don;t know that scholarships are no9t guarnateed and most have to be renewed year to year.

So you could go in as a feshman on scholarship and you suck your freshman and sophmore year and they drop you.

If they realy cared about the student, they would guarantee the scholarship.
 
Whats wrong with the free market? Schools should be able to pay players what they believe that players are worth.
Read my next post.

I never said they didn't and shouldn't get paid, I said they already do, but people act like they are playing fo free.
 
National Anthem before every game is overkill anyway. Save it for finals.
 
Hey I actually think they should get paid more, I just don;t like that people think they play for free.

My issue is can these people actually make it in school when it is apparent that many dont want to be there or shouldn't (grade wise).

You can look at it two ways, Either as a form of AA, more black men and women are getting degrees (if they make it through) or you are setting them up for failure if they can't pass the classes and aren't a superstar.

Most people don;t know that scholarships are no9t guarnateed and most have to be renewed year to year.

So you could go in as a feshman on scholarship and you suck your freshman and sophmore year and they drop you.

If they realy cared about the student, they would guarantee the scholarship.


My feeling is the big schools have the best players, and sell out their giant stadiums week after week. TV rights, advertising, etc etc, the players should be able to get a taste.

Especially if your team wins a bowl game. There should be more than a trophy.
 
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What's the point of standing for na anywAys?

If you pay your taxes, you do nuff already. This obsession with pledging some sort of "allegiance" by standing n saluting the flag is borderline fascism.

I wish you'd take Saudi Arabia to task with this same enthusiasm.
 
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