Social Justin Trudeau announces resignation

irish_thug said:
I just saw him
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And? The last I heard of him he was in the US publicly undermining the Canadian position in the re-opened NAFTA negotiations the last time Trump was president. I'd as soon spit on that prick as be in the same room.
 
Lycandroid said:
We were better off under Harper by every possible metric and that despite him shitting the bed flipping it over and shitting the other side.
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Whatever you say, Can.
 
Andy Capp said:
And? The last I heard of him he was in the US publicly undermining the Canadian position in the re-opened NAFTA negotiations the last time Trump was president. I'd as soon spit on that prick as be in the same room.
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His RCMP escort may have had something to say about that.
 
Lycandroid said:
We were better off under Harper by every possible metric and that despite him shitting the bed flipping it over and shitting the other side.
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Harper's tenure was better while it was happening. But his majority was a mistake and had lasting effects we are going to feel for a long time.

Singh squandered a massive opportunity while being in the so-called kingmaker position, but unfortunately the party had a lot less ability to influence than their political situation suggested, due to the party's financial situation.

Why the NDP supported Trudeau was because after the 2019 and 2021 elections they were broke AF. They had only managed to dig themselves out of the debt back in February of *this year*. Had an election been called, they quite literally could not have funded a campaign for it.

Then by the time they got themselves debt-free, the polls had swung to show a Conservative majority would be swept in by any election. This would mean that if the NDP took down the Liberal government, the NDP (and every other party) would render itself completely powerless and devoid of influence for the next 4 years.

Why would any political party do that to themselves when the *current* government needs their assistance to hold onto power and thus has to give concessions to them like the dental plan - concessions that the Conservatives have signaled they'll undo once in power? They would be trading some influence and sway for none at all, and the eradication of the programs they managed to wring out of Trudeau.

Why they are in such deep debt goes all the way back to 2008/2009 when the Liberals and NDP attempted their coalition government and Harper had gotten government prorogued. Part of what the disagreement had been about back then was Harper's plans to eliminate the per-vote-subsidy, which gives federal parties funds for every vote they receive. This existed as a way to provide funding for parties, rather than having parties turning to corporate fundraising. It was meant to decrease corporate influences on our government.

Harper was forced to back off from eliminating it due to that backlash, however in 2011 when he came back with his majority, eliminating it was one of the very first things he did. Thus the NDP has struggled ever since, due to their pro-worker and pro-union policies not attracting CEOs and corporate lobbyists to $1750/plate dinners like the Conservatives and Liberals do.

Meanwhile Trudeau never brought the per-vote-subsidy back once he was elected and could have done so with his own majority - possibly because the NDP had just become the official opposition for the first time ever in those 2011 elections. It greatly benefits the Liberals to have an NDP that is in debt, because they'll be in no rush to trigger a new election (hence what we've seen). Among his many missteps, it was one of Singh's biggest failures to not force the return of this subsidy in exchange for his support after 2021.

It's unfortunate that the financial realities of our federal parties are having such a significant impact on their policies, but this was the intentional result of eliminating that per-vote-subsidy. It allows corporations and industries to have a larger influence in politics, while diminishing the wiggle room for parties not backed by them to maneuver.
 
Halifax said:
Harper's tenure was better while it was happening. But his majority was a mistake and had lasting effects we are going to feel for a long time.

Singh squandered a massive opportunity while being in the so-called kingmaker position, but unfortunately the party had a lot less ability to influence than their political situation suggested, due to the party's financial situation.

Why the NDP supported Trudeau was because after the 2019 and 2021 elections they were broke AF. They had only managed to dig themselves out of the debt back in February of *this year*. Had an election been called, they quite literally could not have funded a campaign for it.

Then by the time they got themselves debt-free, the polls had swung to show a Conservative majority would be swept in by any election. This would mean that if the NDP took down the Liberal government, the NDP (and every other party) would render itself completely powerless and devoid of influence for the next 4 years.

Why would any political party do that to themselves when the *current* government needs their assistance to hold onto power and thus has to give concessions to them like the dental plan - concessions that the Conservatives have signaled they'll undo once in power? They would be trading some influence and sway for none at all, and the eradication of the programs they managed to wring out of Trudeau.

Why they are in such deep debt goes all the way back to 2008/2009 when the Liberals and NDP attempted their coalition government and Harper had gotten government prorogued. Part of what the disagreement had been about back then was Harper's plans to eliminate the per-vote-subsidy, which gives federal parties funds for every vote they receive. This existed as a way to provide funding for parties, rather than having parties turning to corporate fundraising. It was meant to decrease corporate influences on our government.

Harper was forced to back off from eliminating it due to that backlash, however in 2011 when he came back with his majority, eliminating it was one of the very first things he did. Thus the NDP has struggled ever since, due to their pro-worker and pro-union policies not attracting CEOs and corporate lobbyists to $1750/plate dinners like the Conservatives and Liberals do.

Meanwhile Trudeau never brought the per-vote-subsidy back once he was elected and could have done so with his own majority - possibly because the NDP had just become the official opposition for the first time ever in those 2011 elections. It greatly benefits the Liberals to have an NDP that is in debt, because they'll be in no rush to trigger a new election (hence what we've seen). Among his many missteps, it was one of Singh's biggest failures to not force the return of this subsidy in exchange for his support after 2021.

It's unfortunate that the financial realities of our federal parties are having such a significant impact on their policies, but this was the intentional result of eliminating that per-vote-subsidy. It allows corporations and industries to have a larger influence in politics, while diminishing the wiggle room for parties not backed by them to maneuver.
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good post, I would wager that most Canadian have forgotten or don't even know about the vote subsidy. That being said I don't think it was in the NDP's best interest at all to prop up the government especially if debt issues are resolved. Singh has destroyed the credibility of the party. He could have said the real reason why he supported Trudeau instead of pretending that he actually isn't.
 
Yall are going to find out that I have the insider info on these issues

I said Trudeau would resign over a month ago and that Canada was going to become the 51st state and everyone here laughed at me and sent laughing faces..

I called it.. Once again... Anyone can scroll my post and see

I'm not even Canadian and I knew Trudeau was finished. It all started when Trudeau went to have dinner with Trump. I called it then. Trudeau was finished in that moment and the only 3 people on this Earth that knew it was me, Trump, and Trudeau.

Yall didn't even see this coming but I did
 
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MWB1982 said:
Yall are going to find out that I have the insider info on these issues

I said Trudeau would resign over a month ago and that Canada was going to become the 51st state and everyone here laughed at me and sent laughing faces..

I called it.. Once again... Anyone can scroll my post and see

I'm not even Canadian and I knew Trudeau was finished. It all started when Trudeau went to have dinner with Trump. I called it then. Trudeau was finished in that moment and the only 3 people on this Earth that knew it was me, Trump, and Trudeau.

Yall didn't even see this coming but I did
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be careful dude - witches get burned
 
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MWB1982 said:
Yall are going to find out that I have the insider info on these issues

I said Trudeau would resign over a month ago and that Canada was going to become the 51st state and everyone here laughed at me and sent laughing faces..

I called it.. Once again... Anyone can scroll my post and see

I'm not even Canadian and I knew Trudeau was finished. It all started when Trudeau went to have dinner with Trump. I called it then. Trudeau was finished in that moment and the only 3 people on this Earth that knew it was me, Trump, and Trudeau.

Yall didn't even see this coming but I did
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Good for you, want a participation ribbon?

I called this shit last summer.
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