Just saw Romero vs Whittaker

[Erratic]

It's a fight, stop with your stats. It's not even relevant to the judges when they're scoring the fight at the time. They do not have this information at their disposal.

What are you talking about? That is HILARIOUS. OFcourse they have the info at their disposal, we literally saw the strikes landing live. You can see it. I already knew the numbers were similar to that which i quoted, since I actually watched the fight. it was crazy obvious that romero landed under 10 strikes and turtled.

We are supposed to be judging a fight round by round, remove biases. Even Rogan was saying that Romero seemed really off first rounds, because whittaker was basically winning the rounds clearly. Now if you are talking about the overall fight, sure, that is a different arguement.

 

[Erratic]

Do I really need to explain to you that stats aren't everything and that the impact behind Romero's strikes in Rds 3/4/5 far surpassed anything that Whittaker landed in Rd 1?

That is just a completely irrelevant and stupid point. I am talking to someone about Round 1 here, and Whittaker clearly won round 1, borderline outclassing romero first few rounds. I was discussing a specific round I was never arguing who won the fght, context is key.

The way fight scoring in MMA works is, round by round, points are added up. I couldn't give a shit if you fucking destroyed someone in round 5 and destroyed their face, if you lost the first 4 rounds in points, you lose the MMA fight.

 

[Matty da Ranga]

That is just a completely irrelevant and stupid point. I am talking to someone about Round 1 here, and Whittaker clearly won round 1, borderline outclassing romero first few rounds. I was discussing a specific round I was never arguing who won the fght, context is key.

I'm telling you that even thinking about scoring Rd 1 a 10-8 is a joke

It's not comparable to any of the rounds Yoel won. That's my point, and it went over your head.

 

[Erratic]

I'm telling you that even thinking about scoring Rd 1 a 10-8 is a joke

It's not comparable to any of the rounds Yoel won. That's my point, and it went over your head.

No my point is clearly going way over your head. 2 strikes a minute while completely turtling and even Rogan is saying how off Yoel looks, but yet that is not a 10-8? ROFL.

What makes it a 10-8? Why do i feel like if Yoel even landed 1 strike a minute, you wouldn't call it a 10-8. I'm almost sure of it. WHich then means you know nothing about striking.

Newsflash, in any round where the round is just a striking only round, and your opponent just lands 1 or 2 strike a min, chances are you dominated that round. I am sorry if you want to bring this to talking about each and every round in the fight, but my original post was about round 1.

Literally the only way Yoel could have done worse round 1, was to land 1 strike a minute instead of 2, its pretty hard to find a way he could have done much worse. He did nothing round 1.

 

[ScarfaceJr]

Just watched the fight.

I scored it 47-46 Romero due to the 2 kd's in 3 & 5
but I scored 1 2 4 for Whittaker

 

[Tahm Kench]

What are you talking about? That is HILARIOUS. OFcourse they have the info at their disposal, we literally saw the strikes landing live. You can see it. I already knew the numbers were similar to that which i quoted, since I actually watched the fight. it was crazy obvious that romero landed under 10 strikes and turtled.

We are supposed to be judging a fight round by round, remove biases. Even Rogan was saying that Romero seemed really off first rounds, because whittaker was basically winning the rounds clearly. Now if you are talking about the overall fight, sure, that is a different arguement.

You're so wrong it's funny dude lol. Judge DO NOT GET STATS, and they ALSO do not view the fight from the monitor we are seeing. They view it from cageside through the cage with zero commentary audio.

 

[Erratic]

You're so wrong it's funny dude lol. Judge DO NOT GET STATS, and they ALSO do not view the fight from the monitor we are seeing. They view it from cageside through the cage with zero commentary audio.

No commentary needed, no stats needed. If you honestly couldn't see that romero landed nothing in round 1, I don't know what to say. You say I am wrong, but I knew this when i watched it live, i even said Romero is getting outclassed round 1 (which he did get outclassed.) and i could see romero threw hardly anything. You say I am wrong, but the stats back up my live thoughts and feelings, its very obvious to see he threw nothing, you can see it when you watch woodley fight too, dont need stats if you actually know basic fighting. THe difference is one of us actually does striking and can see striking, and one of us doesn't.

Please for the love of god, I hope you or anyone you know, never becomes a judge, because if you couldn't see that Romero landed 0 in round 1, I don't know what to say, you clearly have a massive, massive bias for Yoel romero.

You are one of the only people on sherdog that could ever say I am "so wrong" in claiming that romero landed basically 0 in round 1. We truly watched a different fight.

 

[Tahm Kench]

No commentary needed, no stats needed. If you honestly couldn't see that romero landed nothing in round 1, I don't know what to say. You say I am wrong, but I knew this when i watched it live, i even said Romero is getting outclassed round 1 (which he did get outclassed.) and i could see romero threw hardly anything. You say I am wrong, but the stats back up my live thoughts and feelings, its very obvious to see he threw nothing, you can see it when you watch woodley fight too, dont need stats if you actually know basic fighting. THe difference is one of us actually does striking and can see striking, and one of us doesn't.

Please for the love of god, I hope you or anyone you know, never becomes a judge, because if you couldn't see that Romero landed 0 in round 1, I don't know what to say, you clearly have a massive, massive bias for Yoel romero.

You are one of the only people on sherdog that could ever say I am "so wrong" in claiming that romero landed basically 0 in round 1. We truly watched a different fight.

What are you talking about. You're deflecting it's so obvious. Whittaker won R1 and R2 but to argue R1 was a 10-8 is fucking absurd lmfao.

 

[Erratic]

What are you talking about. You're deflecting it's so obvious. Whittaker won R1 and R2 but to argue R1 was a 10-8 is fucking absurd lmfao.

Romero landed under 2 strikes a minute round 1, The only way he could possibly do worse is basically landing 1 strike a minute, and round 1 was a kickboxing match.

Just like you are most likely Bronze 5 in league, your MMA striking judging is also Bronze 5. Round 1 was a kickboxing match and Yoel got out landed 3.3 times as much. Facts. No emotion, no bias. Facts. I saw that live that it was a clear outclass round. Deflecting nothing.

Funny thing is, I actually present my arguement What is your arguement? Saying someone is wrong with no proof means nothing. Tell me a good shot yoel landed, tell me which kicks/knees/strikes yoel landed from his very defensive position that makes thta a close 1 point lead round. Thank you.

 

[Soulkrusher]

"Constantly" . Once and then this time by 0.2 lbs after being only allowed half of the standard alloted time to cut the remaining weight.

2 times consecutively and once being a title fight. Yoel gets away with a lot of shit

 

[Tahm Kench]

Romero landed under 2 strikes a minute round 1, The only way he could possibly do worse is basically landing 1 strike a minute, and round 1 was a kickboxing match.

Just like you are most likely Bronze 5 in league, your MMA striking judging is also Bronze 5. Round 1 was a kickboxing match and Yoel got out landed 3.3 times as much. Facts. No emotion, no bias. Facts. I saw that live that it was a clear outclass round. Deflecting nothing.

Funny thing is, I actually present my arguement What is your arguement? Saying someone is wrong with no proof means nothing. Tell me a good shot yoel landed, tell me which kicks/knees/strikes yoel landed from his very defensive position that makes thta a close 1 point lead round. Thank you.

Once again you're stats do not matter because they did little to no damage to Yoel. I didn't see Yoel laying on the floor eating shots like Whittaker was in R5.

R1 - 10-9
R5 - 10-8

If you do not agree than you are biased because you cannot make an argument for R1 being a 10-8 and R5 10-8 based on damage alone.

 

[Erratic]

Once again you're stats do not matter because they did little to no damage to Yoel. I didn't see Yoel laying on the floor eating shots like Whittaker was in R5.

R1 - 10-9
R5 - 10-8

If you do not agree than you are biased because you cannot make an argument for R1 being a 10-8 and R5 10-8 based on damage alone.

Little damage? Hahaha, Yoel romeroes Leg was getting fucking destroyed. Have you even been kicked to the knee like how Whittaker did 10 plus times to romero in that round? It fucks you up.

If Yoel was taking no damage, why not throw caution to the wind and throw more than 9 strikes in 5 minutes.

B5

 

[Tahm Kench]

Little damage? Hahaha, Yoel romeroes Leg was getting fucking destroyed. Have you even been kicked to the knee like how Whittaker did 10 plus times to romero in that round? It fucks you up.

If Yoel was taking no damage, why not throw caution to the wind and throw more than 9 strikes in 5 minutes.

B5

No it wasn't, you're biased. If his leg was fucked up he wouldn't of laid Whittaker out in R3 and R5 and wobbled his shit in R4 dude.

R5 - 10-8, R1 - 10-9

if R1 is 10-8 in your opinion than R5 must be a 10-7.

 

[Sinthesized]

2 times consecutively and once being a title fight. Yoel gets away with a lot of shit

"Gets away with" translates to "gets title shot taken away and gets a poor decision from the judges in his last fight"

 

[Erratic]

No it wasn't, you're biased. If his leg was fucked up he wouldn't of laid Whittaker out in R3 and R5 and wobbled his shit in R4 dude.

R5 - 10-8, R1 - 10-9

if R1 is 10-8 in your opinion than R5 must be a 10-7.

His leg was a bit jacked up, but he also got hit in the face round 1 too. Romero is a beast, you are quoting rounds that happened 15 plus minutes later after Romero had recovered and actually started doing the real deal stuff. See this is what you don't get.. just because Romero fucked whittaker up in a round, doesn't change the scoring of prior rounds.. but in your book it does, but you are using pure hindsight and being biased then.

I judged round 1 based on round 1 live. I am not going back in time using my time machine and saying "well romero fucked him up in the 5th, so that means robert whittaker out landing him 3.3 times as much in round 1 means nothing!" just explaining how scoring works. You can't go back in time and change the scores, Whittaker CLEARLY won that round, very clearly. Did he not? When you very clearly win a round in MMA it is usually a 10-8.

Did Whittaker VERY clearly win round 1? Or just slightly. You tell me, ignore the scoring.

 

[Ken Fresno]

It was a draw by the rules imo

Whittaker 1,2,4
Romero 3,5 (5th was 10-8)

but I hate draws....so if there is a tiebreaker it definitely goes to Yoel. Rd 5 was closer to being a 10-7 than a 10-9
Romero's Rd 3 was also closer to being 10-8 than any of Whittaker's rounds

I generally agree that draws stink, but you won’t find many better scenarios for a draw than this one.

1)There would be no questions about Whitaker having the belt, regarding Romero missing weight.

2) It would maximize demand for a rematch.

3) It would be appropriate that Romero earn a rematch, but not the belt.

4) Objectively, the fight was a draw. 3 rounds to 2, with a 10-8 5th for Romero.