Just rewatched Silva vs Weidman I

In other news, I just discovered that Weidman felt Anderson should have gotten the nod over Bisping.

That's interesting.
 
Jedi Judah said:
Silva was winning until he started clowning = Weidman was winning until he started doin spinning shit = too much cock guy
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Add Werdum to the cock guy list, and that's three guys who may never hold the belt again because of it.
 
Weidman almost KO'ed Anderson like every 2nd strike he landed in the 1st fight, then he felt bad for Silva and then go of the sub because he knew his striking was 100x better than Silva's and that he was gonna KO him with ease.

These games are fun to play, right TS?
 
Still when I watch that fight it seems to me that Silva is really taking control in the 2nd and Weidman looked like he was getting incredibly frustrated. Weidman couldn't get the takedown in the 2nd and was forced into a kickboxing bout. Silva just went too far with the clowning and paid the price for it. The 2nd fight Weidman straight up dominated.
 
Silva lost because he got too cocky and then fought scared. He only needed to weather the storm (and he did) and then Weidman was for the taking, but he played the joker far too long, and got nulled.

Weidman was always overrated as a champion imo. Prime Silva would traumatize Weidman 9/10. Silva was a true ATG.
 
That's one fan base that will stay salty for years to come. Not as bad as Fedor's though
 
Ananth said:
Silva lost because he got too cocky and then fought scared. He only needed to weather the storm (and he did) and then Weidman was for the taking, but he played the joker far too long, and got nulled.

Weidman was always overrated as a champion imo. Prime Silva would traumatize Weidman 9/10. Silva was a true ATG.
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If Weidman is overrated then Silva was too. These people that downplay fighters don't even get they indirectly shit on the guys they like in the process.

Truly a thing of beauty to witness.
 
DS7 said:
Usually when this rivalry is up to discussion i hear a lot of people saying Weidman dominated all 4 rounds, the rematch was definitely(although Silva actually fucked Weidman`s nose up from the guard lol) all Weidman but man, that first fight was fantastic competitively speaking.
Weidman came out strong, took Silva down, GnP him a little bit and actually got Silva in some trouble with a Submission attempt. But then things changed, Silva defended perfectly and got up, and Weidman was getting fucked up badly.
Anderson was starting to do what he wanted and Weidman was starting to be where Silva wanted.
He initiate the taunting and got in Weidman`s head, he wanted him in a kickboxing fight and Weidman gave it to him, and because of that Silva was having an amazing sucess with leg kicks, conected some solid combinations with knees and punches and you could see in Weidman`s face his frustration and his pride getting in the way, zero takedown attempts in the next 3 and half minutes and getting kicked the shit out of him, 2 more minutes in that round and i think Silva would have TKO`ed him.
Very, very close round but Weidman edge it with the GnP and submission attempt, but that break and his corner advice for the 2 round was truly what gave him that world title, he recomposed himself, Ray Longo brought him back to their gameplan and we saw a new Weidman in that second round, focused, patient and when the oportunity came he put on an fantastic combo, jab, right hook, inverse right hook who tricked Silva in thinking that was a left hook so he wouldn`t need to move another step back and would maintain a safe distance with Weidman, but actually Weidman was already throwing a left hook who caught Silva right in the chin because he maintained that distance were he thought he would be safe, beautiful stuff.
I still have a lot of questions after those 2 fights but no doubt Weidman won fair and square, but he didn`t dominate Silva in the first fight like the majority says
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Yup ts. A lot of ppl were eager to see silva lose n when he did (n the wAy he did), made them distort the truth.

Weidman did well at the beginning of both fights, but (like always) he gasses out quickly n silva was slowly taking over both fights.

After the initial td weidman was no longer able to td him again.

Also Silva has this tendency to start slow n "feel" his opponent before he gets to work.

Some idiots here claim "weidman won every second of every round" but that simply isn't true.

He won round 1 in both fights, but it was a close 10-9.

In round 2 of both fights silva took control n was on the attack, while weidman was mostly defending.

If silvas ego didn't get so big n he didn't goof off like he did in 1st fight he would've probably finished gassed weidman in 2nd or 3rd.

Same goes for 2nd fight. If not for freak injury silva again most probably finishes weidman within 3 rounds.

Rockohold finished weidman in 4 rounds n he's nowhere near a fighter silva is.

When silva was beating who's who of mw division (with ease) rickohold was fighting in 2nd rate mws in 2nd rate promotion
 
B-Man said:
Still when I watch that fight it seems to me that Silva is really taking control in the 2nd and Weidman looked like he was getting incredibly frustrated. Weidman couldn't get the takedown in the 2nd and was forced into a kickboxing bout. Silva just went too far with the clowning and paid the price for it. The 2nd fight Weidman straight up dominated.
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You're right about everything except the last part...

Weidman did drop him n landed few good shots from the top, but then it was all silva. He messed him up from the bottom. At the end of the round silva springs right back up like he was in some light sparring, while weidman was all bloodied up n disoriented. He even had trouble finding his corner.

In the 2nd round weidman was mostly defending while silva was spamming low kicks
 
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Not trying to take anything away from Weidman,but imo it was Anderson´s behavior that costed him that embarrasing KO.
Ill be honest, i dislike Weidman´s striking cause imo its neither technical nor fast , but the dude is very tenacious, very though and very durable. Never to be underestimated
 
chinarice said:
If Weidman is overrated then Silva was too. These people that downplay fighters don't even get they indirectly shit on the guys they like in the process.

Truly a thing of beauty to witness.
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Its not a matter of liking Silva more than Weidman. Weidman was never close to being a great in MW. He happened to be at the right place at the right time.
 
People saying Anderson "forced Weidman into a kickboxing match where he was uncomfortable" seem to be overlooking the fact that he brutally knocked Silva out in that kickboxing match.

And I'm sorry, but the first round of the second fight was in no way a "close" 10-9.
Weidman dropped him like a sack of potatoes in the clinch and battered him on the ground.
 
LouisBolanos said:
I totally agree TS there's this video on UFC's official YouTube channel showing the reactions of Jon Jones and I think Liz Carmouche (sp?) you know the UFC fighter with the double chin during the first Weidman Silva fight and Carmouche (sp?) was saying "OMG I think Silva's mind game is getting to Weidman, Silva has this!" and you could see from a simultaneous camera angle that Weidman was losing confidence in his striking and getting confused as Silva was clowning him around, his leg kicks were also landing on Weidman and I think Weidman had to train leg checks extensively with that really fat really depressed looking trainer of his for the rematch and that's how he broke Silva's leg in the second fight. In any case Silva was on track to winning that fight despite being laid upon a bit like he usually does against superior wrestlers.
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Liking because of the Liz Carmouche part.
 
Ananth said:
Its not a matter of liking Silva more than Weidman. Weidman was never close to being a great in MW. He happened to be at the right place at the right time.
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Lol that is straight crazy talk man.

So, Rockhold is also a scrub that is in the right place, right time....
 
fartJokes said:
Weidman had a good first round. It was competitive, but Weidman edged him out imo. Anderson was tooling him in the 2nd round, hands down, chin out, clowning hard, and gave it away. Not an impressive victory, not the way you want to win if you want to call yourself champion. Embarrassing for both fighters imo.
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Seems Silva's fans want to have their cake and eat it with the showboating. On one hand they take it as a sign Silva was "dominating" but on another it was the reason he lost, in terms of actual strikes landed he certainly wasn't dominating in the 2nd.

That the result was somehow "embarrising" for Weidman is obvious total nonsense.
 
Anderson could have won that one, but at some point i think someone would come in with a good gameplan to his punch dodging which is risky and if he failed at it he knew he'd eat a clean shot. Not comparing in terms of skill, but Ali used to dodge punches too and when it failed for him, he got KTFO'd by Frazier . At least once it will fail and cost you the fight, no matter how good you are or who is your opponent .

Most of his haters make big deals of every loss he has to try diminishing his legacy or whatever he did in the octagon, but we gotta be honest he was on another level for a very long time and made a lot of great fighters look like retarded kids in the octagon. I respeck that, i don't care what the lil boys he pissed off says, i'd even bet on him if they fought again :p he still capable of delivering great moments and i'll support him as long as he fights.
 
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