Just rewatched Fedor versus Werdum

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

Yup, and all of the HWs in the UFC were also juicing at the same time.

Tim Sylvia - busted
Monson - busted
Carwin - busted
Couture running around like an action figure at 50 years old
Brock Lesnar - the walking pharmacy
Arlovski - 6'4 245 with 5% bodyfat
Mir - busted

Fedor then came to the U.S. and lost to Werdum and then Bigfoot (busted PEDs, legal PED/TRT user) and Hendo (legal PED/TRT user).

Jones - tested positive for clomid and letro, since TWO substances can show up as a false positive for ONE substance..... which has never happened in the history of lab tests. Clomid/letro is used when you come off cycle, and the eye test of the before and after pics are enough for me.
Anderson - busted
GSP - Pre-USADA testing
Fedor - No evidence, but passes the eye test, and was probably abusing ice cream and pasta.

 

[Adamant]

He was not past his prime when he fought Arvloski. That has become a over used excuse by fans of a fighter that has gotten exposed so they feel that by stating that excuse that it means their fighter was never exposed.

Not as extremely past it as he is now but he had definitely started to dip by that point. Then he kept getting progressively worse and more lazy after that.

 

[fatlipjesus]

See how pathetic you are?

You speculate that these two were juicing based of this stupidity.

The same logic can be apply to Fedor then. Derp.

You sound mad.

Does it upset you that I call Brock Lesnar a walking pharmacy?

Sorry to disturb your WWE fanboy reality but hes already been busted

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/15/brock-lesnar-failed-drug-test-ufc-200-usada

bye felicia

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

See how pathetic you are?

You speculate that these two were juicing based of this stupidity.

The same logic can be apply to Fedor then. Derp.

Fedor was a short / fat heavyweight that could have cut to 205. However, instead of being scared of his true weight like Jones, and Anderson and other roid heads, he fought way bigger fighters often, and still destroyed them. And the ones that were his size were on more juice than Ronnie Coleman.

 

[King Cobra]

How'd he get exposed by Arlovski?

He got exposed by taking zero damage and knocking him out dead in highlight reel fashion?

He got exposed by Werdum.

Also, when has Fedor ever fought a solid boxer with good defense prior to fighting Arlovski?

Big Nog was a solid offensive boxer but his defense was neevr great. Cro Cop was more a kickboxer whose was cautious of Fedor's takedown. Big Foot was not cautious of Fedor's takedown and knew that to stand with him he had to apply defensive head movememts to avoid Fedor's punches. Werdum did the same against Bigfoot back at that time and he would had PROBABLY appied the same movements against Fedor this time around.

 

[Boevik]

Fedor was winning until he lost, lol.

Deal with it, no one is unbeatable.

 

[King Cobra]

You sound mad.

Does it upset you that I call Brock Lesnar a walking pharmacy?

Sorry to disturb your WWE fanboy reality but hes already been busted

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/15/brock-lesnar-failed-drug-test-ufc-200-usada

bye felicia

I never question Lesnar. I am sorry that you suffered from poor reading comprehension skills. You should ask your caretaker to further help you understand what you are trying to read on your computer screen.

You speculated that Couture and Arlovski too steroids based of nothing except for how they looked like.

That makes you an idiot. Go and ask your caretaker what the word "idiot" means.

Okay little buddy?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Yup, and all of the HWs in the UFC were also juicing at the same time.

Tim Sylvia - busted
Monson - busted
Carwin - busted
Couture running around like an action figure at 50 years old
Brock Lesnar - the walking pharmacy
Arlovski - 6'4 245 with 5% bodyfat
Mir - busted

Fedor then came to the U.S. and lost to Werdum and then Bigfoot (busted PEDs, legal PED/TRT user) and Hendo (legal PED/TRT user).

When you look at Pride HW's as well who were the guys either busted for PEDs or strongly suspect of using them? Almost all were American.

Theres Crocop in his latter years although I think the way it unfolded makes his story a bit easier to believe plus of course its a decade latter and he's both larger than in Pride and maintaining that body into his 40's.

 

[King Cobra]

evident his passion was not there any longer,.

I wonder what typed of drug you are using because I am sure Joe Rogan would love to have some of that.

It was evident that his passion was no longer there?

He was trying to rip Werdum, Hendo and Bigfoot's heads off their bodies.

He was fighting as aggressive as always. But Werdum and Bigfoot were BJJ Blackbelts. That has always been his biggest challenged. He hardly ever fought BJJ dudes. The best BJJ grappler he fought prior to Werdum was Ricardo Arona who was a Light heavyweight and it is safe to say that Arona could had been given a decision win in that fight.

 

[fatlipjesus]

He got exposed by Werdum.

Also, when has Fedor ever fought a solid boxer with good defense prior to fighting Arlovski?

Big Nog was a solid offensive boxer but his defense was neevr great. Cro Cop was more a kickboxer whose was cautious of Fedor's takedown. Big Foot was not cautious of Fedor's takedown and knew that to stand with him he had to apply defensive head movememts to avoid Fedor's punches. Werdum did the same against Bigfoot back at that time and he would had PROBABLY appied the same movements against Fedor this time around.

Oh, cool. Now you're telling me that Fedor hadn't fought any "good" strikers until he fought Bigfoot Silva.

Apparently Bigfoot is a better striker than Semmy Schilt, Mark Hunt, and Crocop......

Bigfoot didn't beat Fedor on the feet. He beat him on the ground.

 

[fatlipjesus]

I wonder what typed of drug you are using because I am sure Joe Rogan would love to have some of that.

It was evident that his passion was no longer there?

He was trying to rip Werdum, Hendo and Bigfoot's heads off their bodies.

He was fighting as aggressive as always. But Werdum and Bigfoot were BJJ Blackbelts. That has always been his biggest challenged. He hardly ever fought BJJ dudes. The best BJJ grappler he fought prior to Werdum was Ricardo Arona who was a Light heavyweight and it is safe to say that Arona could had been given a decision win in that fight.

 

[King Cobra]

Fedor was a short / fat heavyweight that could have cut to 205. However, instead of being scared of his true weight like Jones, and Anderson and other roid heads, he fought way bigger fighters often, and still destroyed them. And the ones that were his size were on more juice than Ronnie Coleman.

Jones was never busted for roids you caca for brains. Anderson Silva took roids while recovering from a leg injury. Never was he busted for taking roids during a fight.

And guess what? Not everybody can deal with weight cutting. That in itself is a extra strain to deal with aside from preparing for a fight by drilling and learning to apply techniques.

Fedor was a strong stocky 230 pound Heavyweight. Cain Velasquez is practically similar in body type to Fedor.

Jones is lanky and so is Silva.

You are obviously too slow to understand the difference in body types.

Kind of like the classification between ectomorph, endomorph and mesomorph.

 

[Fraz]

Every day we get these insecure Fedor GOAT threads as if we're all gonna forget about him

 

[fatlipjesus]

When you look at Pride HW's as well who were the guys either busted for PEDs or strongly suspect of using them? Almost all were American.

Theres Crocop in his latter years although I think the way it unfolded makes his story a bit easier to believe plus of course its a decade latter and he's both larger than in Pride and maintaining that body into his 40's.

Yup, Coleman, Randleman, Barnett, Kerr, Sapp, Waterman, Shamrock

All comic book characters except Barnett

 

[Tephlon]

Wouldn't be a Fedor thread without Redhawks "b b but Anderson!!". Bruh, Fedor winning all the polls, the fans agree, the fighters agree: Fedor GOAT. Deal with it.

Greatest Fighter to never fight in the UFC. Agreed

 

[King Cobra]

Oh, cool. Now you're telling me that Fedor hadn't fought any "good" strikers until he fought Bigfoot Silva.

Apparently Bigfoot is a better striker than Semmy Schilt, Mark Hunt, and Crocop......

Bigfoot didn't beat Fedor on the feet. He beat him on the ground.

I am talking about boxing defense. Look at the fight. Fedor was trying to knock Bigfoot's head off and he was using head movements to avoid Fedor's punches.

Fedor was a straight forward cast puncher. He would come at you with cast punches and once those punches were studied to be avoided that is when hie offense became more easy to defend against.

Same thing happen to Liddell who love to throw too much of his overhand right, or Wanderlei Silva who loved throwing flurries right down the middle.

 

[7 others]

I thought werdum admitted he played possum?

 

[fatlipjesus]

I am talking about boxing defense. Look at the fight. Fedor was trying to knock Bigfoot's head off and he was using head movements to avoid Fedor's punches.

Fedor was a straight forward cast puncher. He would come at you with cast punches and once those punches were studied to be avoided that is when hie offense became more easy to defend against.

Same thing happen to Liddell who love to throw too much of his overhand right, or Wanderlei Silva who loved throwing flurries right down the middle.

His offense became easy to defend against when he stopped using casting punches for their real reason and just became a brawler.

His casting punches used to be effective because he would use them to close distance for his throws. If he didn't hurt his opponent with the initial onslaught he could take them down. He abandoned that in favor of just recklessly throwing bombs in the last few years of his career, and seemingly now still.

 

[Chramelated]

• He could have beaten Werdum.
• Fedor's prime ended around this time.
• Fedor always came with 100% intensity, never ran, never backed down from a position like Conor or Runereem.
• Was brave enough to fight the GOAT grappler at his own game and lost.

You're the reason people hate fedor and his fans.


Kill yourself.

 

[Just Creed]

I don't care if people say that pulled what out of a certain deck of cards but you sound like you are a racist inbred.

How is he racist? Because Jones and Silva are black?