Just realized something that'll piss yall off

[volcom5]

AS THEY SHOULD

myself I dont need forgiveness, as I have followed the tenets of Fedorism as long as my sherdog account has been active and before

 

[volcom5]

Historically when a fighter has an exceptionally long win streak like Fedor had, they tend to not be the same after they finally lose.

Sometimes changes tend to be overlooked….you know like fighting S tier competition in linear, proper drug testing, ring vs cage, actual HW’s instead of MW’s, actual MMA fighters instead of kickboxers being introduced into MMA, you know the normal stuff that happends to all fighters.

 

[jeff7b9]

Are you saying the heavier weights haven’t progressed with the sport and the prime of those divisions was 20 years ago?? Ya don’t say.

People used to make fun of the “Pride never die” guys, but that was a special moment in time and will never be replicated. It was the best display of 205 and up to exist. It’s aged very well in a sport that’s stagnating for once.

Wish it wasn’t called “Pride” though. Tough to defend sometimes.

you got a problem with my pride flag!?!?!

 

[TheBulge]

You say those were his contemporaries but so was Werdum and so was Ubereem. He lost to one in a minute and kept ducking the other.

You can seriously doubt Gonzaga would beat him but he almost ended the physical life of prime Cro Cop. Fedor doesn't do well against well rounded fighters in their primes. He never beat a great well rounded HW.

Also lastly, beating common opponents IN A RING doesn't mean he beats them in an American cage. By all accounts he is a nervous wreck and can't fight for shit in there. I think Cro Cop in a rematch smokes him and Barnett despite the fight folding several times likely beats him too. Ubereem does things to him that change the trajectory of the sport as we know it.

 

[HHJ]

Sometimes changes tend to be overlooked….you know like fighting S tier competition in linear, proper drug testing, ring vs cage, actual HW’s instead of MW’s, actual MMA fighters instead of kickboxers being introduced into MMA, you know the normal stuff that happends to all fighters.

Hahah show us on the doll where Fedor's obscenely and disgustingly long reign of awesomeness, hurt you.

 

[Kwic]

How can you say this bro???


DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN FEDOR GRAPPLED???

THROWING MOTHERFUCKERS TO THE GROUND EXPLODING LIKE A M80??

you think you can just do that for 10 years and then just keep doing that for the next 10 after???

LIKE THAT DOESNT WEAR A MOTHERFUCKERS BODY OUT??

but nah instead

FEDOR IS SO STUPID HE FORGOT HOW TO GRAPPLE IF I WAS FEDOR I WOULD GRAPPLE LOL

Believe me bro, it pains my heart to write he forgot how to grapple because I was about to have a heart attack each time he fought, what's how I was invested and wanted to see him win. Of course he was out of his prime at that point. Me writing that he forgot how to grapple is a bit tongue in cheek remark reflecting the fact that he was slightly above bum level at that point.

 

[volcom5]

you got a problem with my pride flag!?!?!



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Was that flag hung outside of the auditorium for the event? And how many of these folks showed up? That is the real question.

 

[volcom5]

Hahah show us on the doll where Fedor's obscenely and disgustingly long reign of awesomeness, hurt you.

Come on bro, you know where. Everyone on here doesnt need to know.

 

[BFoe]

Sometimes changes tend to be overlooked….you know like fighting S tier competition in linear, proper drug testing, ring vs cage, actual HW’s instead of MW’s, actual MMA fighters instead of kickboxers being introduced into MMA, you know the normal stuff that happends to all fighters.

Poatan was a kickboxer introduced to MMA, and Ciryl Gane was a MT fighter introduced to MMA, and they seemed to do fine for themselves.

Fedor fought plenty of legit HWs, he had 12 ranked wins against legit HWs during his streak, every one of his title defenses were against legit ranked HWs.
—Is every one of Islam’s defenses against a legit, ranked LW? Nope.
—Was every one of Jon Jones’ LHW defenses against a legit, ranked LHW? Nope.

There are definitely differences between JMMA and modern UFC, but a lot of the criticisms leveled at Fedor are misguided imo, a lot of the stuff happens today too.

 

[jeff7b9]

Was that flag hung outside of the auditorium for the event? And how many of these folks showed up? That is the real question.

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I dunno bro. I Googled PrideFC flag.

That's MY pride flag

 

[Yabadabaev]

damn sherdogers without time machine we will never know

 

[volcom5]

Poatan was a kickboxer introduced to MMA, and Ciryl Gane was a MT fighter introduced to MMA, and they seemed to do fine for themselves.

A little bit of differences dont you think? Comparing the likes of Pereira or Cyril Gane who had work their way up beating actual great MMA Fighters, it’s not like Pereira or Gane was thrown in agwinst Jones or Cormier from the get go. No those kickboxers had establish themselves as a threat in MMA have some actual accomplishments in MMA.

Fedor fought plenty of legit HWs, he had 12 ranked wins against legit HWs during his streak, every one of his title defenses were against legit ranked HWs.

Was Mark Hunt even ranked?

—Is every one of Islam’s defenses against a legit, ranked LW? Nope.

Oliveira (C)
Poirier (4)
Moicano (10)
Aside from Volkanovski who was ranked #1 P4P. Yes they were.

—Was every one of Jon Jones’ LHW defenses against a legit, ranked LHW? Nope.

Aside from Belfort and Sonnen, yes, but to your question, then your answer of nope is correct, although we can’t just gloss over where Belfort was in his career, he was wrecking everyone at that time, only loss to Anderson in recent. Sonnen, yes that was stupid, that was a cash grab.

There are definitely differences between JMMA and modern UFC, but a lot of the criticisms leveled at Fedor are misguided imo, a lot of the stuff happens today too.

I agree, but Fedor is criticized on here because there is a lot of dishonesty when it comes to Fedor from a a select few of his fans, you can say it is misguided but there is some truth in it. Does it happen today? Sure, but you can’t tell me with a straight face a fighter like Merabs career, winstreak & defenses although lesser in numbers is less impressive than Fedors.

 

[volcom5]

I dunno bro. I Googled PrideFC flag.

That's MY pride flag

Well, I guess thst backfired on me, Lol.



Im taking L’s like Fedor when he fought in states.
I must be out of my prime.

 

[humdizzle]

 

[BFoe]

A little bit of differences dont you think? Comparing the likes of Pereira or Cyril Gane who had work their way up beating actual great MMA Fighters, it’s not like Pereira or Gane was thrown in agwinst Jones or Cormier from the get go. No those kickboxers had establish themselves as a threat in MMA have some actual accomplishments in MMA.

Neither were Semmy Schilt or Mirko, who were the kickboxers I had in mind.
If you were thinking of Hunt, he already had put together a 5 fight win streak with wins over Wanderlei, Cro Cop, and TK, which I’d say is better than beating Michalidis, Bruno Silva and Strickland like Poatan did to get his first TS.

Was Mark Hunt even ranked?

Yes, he was. The fight PRIDE wanted was Fedor Vs Barnett, since Barnett had just beaten Hunt, but Barnett declined the fight.

https://www.mmaweekly.com/news/mmaweekly-rankings-updated-on-december-5-2

Oliveira (C)
Poirier (4)
Moicano (10)
Aside from Volkanovski who was ranked #1 P4P. Yes they were.

I said defenses. He has 4, 2 of them were against a FW in Volk. Volk was not ranked in the top 10 at LW, period.

Aside from Belfort and Sonnen, yes, but to your question, then your answer of nope is correct, although we can’t just gloss over where Belfort was in his career, he was wrecking everyone at that time, only loss to Anderson in recent. Sonnen, yes that was stupid, that was a cash grab.

I agree, but Fedor is criticized on here because there is a lot of dishonesty when it comes to Fedor from a a select few of his fans, you can say it is misguided but there is some truth in it. Does it happen today? Sure, but you can’t tell me with a straight face a fighter like Merabs career, winstreak & defenses although lesser in numbers is less impressive than Fedors.

I do think Fedor’s career is more impressive than Merab’s. Fedor did what he did at heavyweight, that’s unheard of. He did it under goofy RINGS rules in a ring, under PRIDE rules with 10 min first rounds, stomps, and soccer kicks in a ring, he did under Unified Rules in a ring, modified Unified Rules in a cage, Unified Rules in a cage…

Someone like Jones for example only recently surpassed the number of ranked wins Fedor has, or number of UFC champs beaten, and it took him ages to do that. Fedor did it in a decade.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Affliction was still the GOAT org for the fans.

Affliction gave us so much they went bankrupt

 

[IDGETKTFO]

TS must have never heard the phrase, styles make fights.

 

[AndrewGolota48]

TS must have never heard the phrase, styles make fights.

Eilers was Fedor's kryptonite.

 

[Superzorro]

Fedor beat all common opponents with Randy more impressively. All indications is a win for Fedor.

And here I was thinking you couldn’t compare common opponents because “MMA math doesn’t work.”

 

[Violent Violin]

A bunch of guys laying on each other looking like they’re trying to do it but don’t know how to the average person… then calling it “PRIDE.” Not necessary.

I still don't get it