Just re-watched GSP vs Hendricks:

[Mamou]

Predetermined times <> predetermined dates

And I'd take anything Hendricks manager says with a grain of salt.

 

[315MMAFighter]

Slow down, I know this thread has been done a 100 times. But 99 times out of those 100, its full of useless shit talking about if GSP is the GOAT or not. Looking for actual talk about the fight. Specifically:

1) There's been talk of GSP lacking power, especially in that fight. Do you buy that?

2) GSP face looked much worse than Hendricks. I heard old scar tissue can cause that. What are your thoughts?

3) I thought Hendricks had been popped by USADA, but looking I cant find any records stating he has. Since speculation is illegal, ill ask it this way: Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

Finally, to discern a bit of bias, do you like Hendricks or GSP more?


Hoping to have an actual answers here and not 10 pages of memes.

You mah BOY Bruv, but why? GSP 1,3,4, &5 fook the haterade

 

[315MMAFighter]

48-47 GSP

 

[SaltedVinegarfootstomps]

Hendricks coasting in the 5th and cost him a razor thin decision... /end of story. Jonny became champ right after by finishing the full 25 minutes and years later GSP would be champ-champ...

This. You can’t come in to a title fight against one of the longest reigning champions in history and take the last round off. It’s a bad look, poor plan, and weak finish. He had so many people in disbelief during that fight, I remember thinking “holy shit, this is how it ends for GSP” and then he just sat back in the 5th. Could not WAIT to raise his hands after the final bell. That’s a no from me dawg.

 

[suffersystem]

He was "uncomfortable" because GSP's attorney was asking for predetermined times for testing and wanted to know what exactly they were testing for, according to Hendricks' manager

Unfortunately the first part is not true. They did ask what was all being tested for, as I would assume you'd want to know what was being tested for if you were under testing.

 

[Jibsta69]

1. GSP has ok power but he was never known to sleep people from 1 punch very often if at all from what I remember.

2. I could be wrong but most of the damage came from round 4 when Hendricks had in the ground and gave him a few elbows. His face was just as bad as the Bisping fight.

3. Well he’s never failed, Hendricks and Weidman are notable fighters that have fallen off a cliff since USADA became a thing.

4. I like George more cause Hendricks always came off as a whiny crybaby

5. Hendricks probably won the fight but he doesn’t get enough crap for coasting the 5th round in a title fight cause he believe he has the fight in the bag. Blame the judges sure but he deserves blame to.

 

[GOAT]

GSP should have took a break and ran that fight back. Hendricks was never the same after that fight, and GSP would have dominated him in the rematch.

 

[Mamou]

Unfortunately the first part is not true. They did ask what was all being tested for, as I would assume you'd want to know what was being tested for if you were under testing.

Hendricks' manager said it and Kizer said he started getting "all these other questions from Team GSP"

 

[suffersystem]

Hendricks' manager said it and Kizer said he started getting "all these other questions from Team GSP"

The emails are actually online, should check them out sometime.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

It s called the sticky belt advantage ( SBA).

 

[mmadeewana]

the face bruising issue is always stupid,one well places strike could open you up you may win the round but not the fight

 

[grimballer]

1) considering gsp couldn’t finish anybody during his title run and never really had one punch kos in his career, it’s a fair observation

2) Hendricks was just landing better shots... it goes back to point number one. Gsp wasn’t a finish for that same reason. He would beat up guys for 25 minutes, but never able to put them away.

3) gsp wanting to test Hendricks was just a publicity stunt. When Hendricks proposed Wada testing instead of gsps own vada lab, gsp backed off.

 

[Mamou]

The emails are actually online, should check them out sometime.

The emails do not say what was said during the call with both teams.

 

[itrainufcbro]

Gsp is one the most boring fighters in history. Im in no way a gsp fan.

That said, i thought it was clear he won the fight.

Hendrix decline could be natural. I assume not. But could be

Face damage is whatever. I still think joanna won her fight even with an alien skull

 

[suffersystem]

The emails do not say what was said during the call with both teams.

Seems strange that GSP would ask for predetermined times, but yet that is never brought up at all in any of the emails back and forth when discussing the testing don't you think? That would be quite the sticking point to be never mentioned at all......

 

[fzoid4454]

1) Hendricks was known to be more of a bomber, and GSP generally wasn't thought of as a one-punch guy. I don't think he lacked power as much as he wasn't willing to over-commit to throwing a haymaker when there was the danger of a counter from hand that were considered some of the heaviest in the division.

2) "How the face looks," regardless of what Dana White might say, has NOTHING to do with whether someone won or lost a fight. You can get clipped by a glancing shot in the wrong spot and it will blow up. Some people do seem to bruise easier, etc. Regardless, how a fighter looks, cosmetically, is not part of any kind of judging criteria.

3) Hendricks played a cat and mouse game on avoiding authentic hard-core testing, and then offered spin-heavy reasons why. There's also the fact that his fighting-level dropped off the edge of the flat earth once there was more serious testing installed and he went from champion to can almost overnight. That's why people generally label him as a PED user, not because of any failed test.

It was a very, very close fight. A one-point decision either way was and would have been a completely legitimate result. I think the entire planet had the last four rounds scored the same. The only round in dispute was the first one.

 

[chs140]

Interesting response. Havent heard much from guys that dont care about GSP's face thinking Hendricks won.

GSP had more takedowns, although Hendricks was impossible to keep down (GSP got right back up to, to be fair.)

Hendricks certainly seemed to land the harder blows, but I often wonder if looks can be deceiving. I haven't professionally fought.

One of the best parts of no crowd fights is that we can hear what is landing versus what is slapping.

 

[LilNicky95]

Slow down, I know this thread has been done a 100 times. But 99 times out of those 100, its full of useless shit talking about if GSP is the GOAT or not. Looking for actual talk about the fight. Specifically:

1) There's been talk of GSP lacking power, especially in that fight. Do you buy that?

2) GSP face looked much worse than Hendricks. I heard old scar tissue can cause that. What are your thoughts?

3) I thought Hendricks had been popped by USADA, but looking I cant find any records stating he has. Since speculation is illegal, ill ask it this way: Do you think the guys were on an even playing field supplement wise?

Finally, to discern a bit of bias, do you like Hendricks or GSP more?


Hoping to have an actual answers here and not 10 pages of memes.

The answer to all your questions is that Fedor is GOAT.

You’re welcome.

 

[Safton]

I may be wrong but I remember Hendricks being weirdly uncomfortable with wanting to agree to stricter drug testing per GSPs request, I found it kinda weird then.

Scar Tissue is a legit excuse, look at any Nate, Bisping fight, sometimes guys just get opened up by anything, it doesnt have any correlation to how a fight should be scored.

To play Devil's advocate: visible damage is explicitly included as something that a judge should consider and actively give weight to in the scoring criteria section of the Unified Rules circa 2017. It's considered a subset of the "Impact" criterion.

 

[SakurabasEar]

Hendricks didnt want random testing, he didnt want high grade testing at the time, and he didnt even want to be tested multiple times that year. From what I know he did offer a test or two on his own accord.

Just look at how he preformed after usada, that guy was definitely using peds. I'm not judging, plenty of thise guys were back then. But GSP wasn't one of them. And if GSP had decided fuck it, and perhaps used PEDs there's no way hendricks would have even arguably won.