Just how good was Wanderlei Silva?

[Mortal Wombat]

Got fight pass, someone on here recommended me to go watch pride stuff, so I watched a documentary on pride and man that wanderlei Silva looked vicious! His staredowns alone looked scary af! Almost on the same level as mike Tyson! No one really mentions this guy in the goat talk but just how good was he, was he a level just below the goat status or something

Plus pride itself looked insane, some of the fights, Damn!

This is by far your best post. After all its about education.

 

[Mike K.O]

Basically no different in the UFC at that time. They employed random drug tests on a few fighters per card, if I'm not mistaken.

"Test" would probably get covered up if a big star got busted
It's still like that to this day

 

[CerebralKnievel]

He had really good timing and wild strikes. His fight vs Jardine is a great example of his technical awareness. Jardine had just beat Chuck via low kicks which were very effective against Chuck. He tried it against Wand who was more familiar with the timing necessitated to counter the low kick and Jardine got KOed.

A lot of people might think of him as just a wild striker but he had some technical proficiency as well.

He was an incredibly talented Muay Thai fighter and a black belt in BJJ who just happened to be a natural fighter with a proclivity for throwing power into his shots.

 

[Amerikuracana]

he was excellent at pulverizing Japanese pro-wrestlers and street sweepers that he outweighed by about 90 lbs

And then much bigger guys like cro-cop, hunt, and fujita.. gimme a break.

Prime wand is an all-time great lhw/mw.

Not thee greatest, perhaps, but jones v wand in pride, 2001-2005 could go either way. Wand was a berzerker. Jones has surpassed him in the goat convo, I guess, but that's not everything.

 

[Where you at Georges?]

I think Chuck beats him 8 times out of ten Prime vs Prime

 

[Amerikuracana]

I think Chuck beats him 8 times out of ten Prime vs Prime

I don't. Probably the reverse, especially in pride under pride rules.

 

[cade187]

Or maybe, just maybe, assuming it cuz of the way he looked ...

And peds were effectively legal in Pride.

Well there was the thing where he got a lifetime suspension for running away from NAC testers.

 

[Where you at Georges?]

I don't. Probably the reverse, especially in pride under pride rules.

It could conceivably go either way. Clash of different striking styles. I respect your opinion and stand by mine.

 

[JabToucher]

I don't. Probably the reverse, especially in pride under pride rules.

Chuck had no trouble attempting to knee a grounded opponent while facing Overeem.

Back when he had that look in his eyes.

 

[heavy_hands]

Imagine prime Wandy vs prime Igor in Pride...too bad it never happened.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Chuck had no trouble attempting to knee a grounded opponent while facing Overeem.

Back when he had that look in his eyes.

Overeem gassed from beating the crap out of chuck. Typical reem, tbh.

 

[613]

And then much bigger guys like cro-cop, hunt, and fujita.. gimme a break.

Wandy outweighed Cro Cop in the second fight. Fuck off with that "much bigger" shit. Wandy was a 235lb monster in Pride

 

[JabToucher]

Overeem gassed from beating the crap out of chuck. Typical reem, tbh.

I just believe Chuck would not of had a problem adapting to Pride rules. Regardless if he got the win or not.

 

[OrigFan255]

Entertainment: 10

Drama: 10

Use of his BJJ backround to actually win: 2

 

[nostradumbass]

Oh sheet, did the guy get busted for them? Or you just assuming he was on them cause he was that good?

Busted by whom? The org that said in their contracts they wouldn't test you for roids? Must have been the cleanest pro sports org ever since nobody popped for roids.

Elite level Aggression + loads of roids

As opposed to the roided up guys who are usually very timid?

 

[mungos]

He was good.
Ring was more suited for brawlers.

 

[AdamantiumPimmel]

Conor beats him into a living death.

Krazy Horse beats them both by ko!

 

[flyingscissorsheelhook]

One of the most entertaining fighters ever.

Just sheer muderous agression.

 

[Kinosis]

Pride in it's prime was still the best and most entertaining MMA I have ever seen.

 

[DespicablePeep]

By todays standards he isn't very good. He isn't as good as say Glover Texeira for example - but for the time he was one of the premier strikers in MMA - he didn't have quite the finess of Shogun Rua but he was respectable

O lawd shut up, Glover is a can and Wand not having a gas tank? Watch him beat Page twice all gas out both times.

lol respectable he was the badest mw ever