Just floating an idea. 5 Judges for Fightsports.

[lagofala]

Would having more judges thus increasing the sample size for scorecards help with reducing controversial decisions?

Besides cost of hiring judges, what will be the drawbacks? Have commissions ever thought of this before or is it a tradition thing and do promotions actually want for judging controversy to create drama?

Discuss.

 

[jojoRed]

You know nothing would change with 5 judges right? You'd still get controversial decisions because we'd still have boxing judges judging mma.

 

[CaloLutadores]

Would having more judges thus increasing the sample size for scorecards help with reducing controversial decisions?

Besides cost of hiring judges, what will be the drawbacks? Have commissions ever thought of this before or is it a tradition thing and do promotions actually want for judging controversy to create drama?

Discuss.

If two judges can give a shitty scorecard, the possibility is not huge that other three from the same box will make a right decision.

Maybe will work for idk, 20% fights , but for most of the fights - all it will take is one Cecil Peoples or Adelaide to be put as the 4th judge, and it will change nothing.

 

[lagofala]

You know nothing would change with 5 judges right? You'd still get controversial decisions because we'd still have boxing judges judging mma.

They don't get them wrong all the time. The chances of getting 3 bad judges compared to 2 seems smaller.

 

[SPB]

They can't find competent judges now. How can increasing the number of incompetent people solve this?

 

[lagofala]

They can't find competent judges now. How can increasing the number of incompetent people solve this?

I wouldn't say all of them are incompetent. It's just that controversial decisions get more attention.

 

[blaseblah]

You're just repeating Rogan's idea

 

[Clippy]

5 referees is the best solution - fights will get stopped in proper fashion with five guys tackling the winning guy

 

[lagofala]

You're just repeating Rogan's idea

Sorry don't follow his podcasts close enough. What did he say?

 

[TheRassler]

Nope, horrible idea.

0 judges = best idea

Less chance for fuck ups, all decisions becomes a Draw. The way it should’ve always been.

 

[Spacelord13]

It they can’t get it right with 3. They won’t get it right with 5. Sad, but true.

My solution remains. Hire all new mma judges. Get all of the bigger ACs where mma happens, to chip in on the cost of training these new judges. Nevada, Cali, NY, Texas. Maybe a few more chipping in just a little because they only get one or two cards per year. Have these judges dedicated for mma judging, that’s it. Then train them properly how to judge a fight under the new ABC unified rules.

Once the new crop is up to speed. Shit can the useless boxing judges. It’s stupid to have boxing judges judging mma. That’s simple common fucking sense.

It’s the only solution I see that might actually work.

 

[savemgs]

You know nothing would change with 5 judges right? You'd still get controversial decisions because we'd still have boxing judges judging mma.

Hell and they cant get it right in boxing.

 

[Siesta]

Would having more judges thus increasing the sample size for scorecards help with reducing controversial decisions?

Besides cost of hiring judges, what will be the drawbacks? Have commissions ever thought of this before or is it a tradition thing and do promotions actually want for judging controversy to create drama?

Discuss.

The number of judges don't matter as long as they aren't educated on how to score fights correctly.

 

[beaglepuss]

You're just repeating Rogan's idea

Is not exactly a new idea. Amateur boxing currently uses five judges. Not perfect, but it has its advantages over three judges for sure.

 

[JustBleed69]

Would having more judges thus increasing the sample size for scorecards help with reducing controversial decisions?

Besides cost of hiring judges, what will be the drawbacks? Have commissions ever thought of this before or is it a tradition thing and do promotions actually want for judging controversy to create drama?

Discuss.

We need more judges, better judges, and judges to not be paid off.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Judges suck shit so adding more of them would just make decisions worse.

 

[lagofala]

I wonder if there's a database that actually tracks the number of controversial decisions over those widely agreed upon ones.

I honestly think the error rate is not as high as we think considering there are hundreds of UFC fights a year.

 

[MakeSherdogGreatAgain]

The problem with judges is that they work for the commissions. 3 judges works fine if they're all competent and know what they're watching.

Maybe a step in the right direction would be not disclosing who the judges are until the fight is about to start. Have 6 or 9 judges working an event, and randomly select which judges work a particular fight. When promoters know who is judging a fight, it increases the potential for corruption.

Maybe only the commission and the judges should even know who's working an event before it starts? Maybe the judges should have no idea what fights they're working until the walkouts are about to happen for each individual fight. They could walk to the ring/cage during the fighter introductions.

You can't tell me that some judges get it wrong because they really think the other fighter won sometimes. I think corruption has more to do with the truly bad decisions than ignorance or incompetence.

 

[SPB]

I wouldn't say all of them are incompetent. It's just that controversial decisions get more attention.

No one said they are all incompetent. But it seems quite difficult to get 3 competent ones for any one fight these days.

 

[spooNN]

Or just three that don't suck.