Tyson beat far better fighters than Chavez. Past-prime Holmes, Spinks, and Berbick shit on Roger Mayweather, Frankie Randall (should've lost to him in the rematch), and Camacho.
I don't really know how to argue that he's top 50 without seeing a top 50 list and that sounds like a lot of work. How about showing me a top 50 with Chavez in it and arguing against his place there and who should replace him?
Tyson wasn't even the 1st or 2nd best HW of his own damn era, he was the third. He has the worst loss of any boxer in HISTORY on his record during his "prime" even though his physical prime lasted longer. Tyson also mentally quit in every major fight that wasn't going his way. You cant say that about Chavez(see Taylor 1).
I don't agree with the "quit" thing. He just gave back to Evander. Other than that, he just got legitimately stopped a couple of times against elite level fighters (obviously prime or close to, we're talking here).
lmao get the fuck outta here. you’re listing berbick on tyson’s resume over guys like bruno, ruddock, bone crusher, the truth because you heard he beat ali at some point in his career, i guarantee it.
who’s better? marquez? finito? sanchez? chavez had a more dominant career than marquez and beat better names than finito and sanchez.
There’s still a lot of opportunities to lose, padded or not; when you fight 5 times a year. Also when you turn pro at 17, you have to figure, you’re talking 20-30 fights just preparing you as a pro if you hadn’t had an amateur background
Honestly I’m not sure if I have a concrete opinion. Like I said, he is definitely in the running but, Mexican boxing has a very rich history. I find it hard to say that he is the clear number one. I’m not really a fan of a end all be all structured all time rankings. I tend to have a few guys that I consider the best and I don’t really like to marry myself to the idea that one is clearly the best when there’s no way to really substantiate that besides a personal bias. I have a hard time with p4p rankings for the same reason.
berbick is definitely the only other name he recognized on tyson’s record. there’s no possible explanation to list him as a good win. berbick did fuck all. i think you could argue JCC’s win over camacho is better than any of tyson’s.
Beat Ali.
