Julianna Pena did to Amanda what Amanda did to Cyborg

Because Dana ALWAYS tells the truth, as we know. She asked for an immediate rematch and wasn't given it. In fact, Nunes went out of her way to say she was going to make her wait for 2 years.

“Cyborg doesn’t want to fight me if it takes more than a year to prepare, and right now, I don’t think she’s gonna want it because I’m gonna ask for two years to be ready for her again,” Nunes said. “She said I wanted one year to be ready for her and she didn’t want to wait that much, she don’t wanna stay without fighting but right now I’m asking for two years for the rematch.”

https://www.mmamania.com/2019/1/4/1...rematch-after-ufc-23-mma-jones-ppv-gustafsson
Can you blame nunes? If you follow nunes career she loses one in every five fights anyway and mostly to soccer moms and mostly by clear finishes.

she can’t afford too much activity the law of averages catch up. Just look past the ufc hype machine, steroid accusations and look at her actual career record. It’s a very pedestrian winning percentage for a goat contender
 
If the house is literally paid for what is the issue? It’s sounds like you’re talking about investing in real estate to make a profit. Which has driven many people into bankruptcy. I don’t care how many episodes of flip this house you have watched. The real estate market is not constant. It’s ever changing. And shit like the stock market bust of ‘08, or the Covid outbreak of 2 years ago can decimate a person.

Why the hell would anybody actually care about the house Amanda and Nina own? That’s the part I don’t really get? If it’s good enough for them.. Hello.
The guy you are replying to seems to be a financial noob. If housing was so sure shot and garaunteed banks; won’t mortgage our properties they would buy them for themselves
 
If the house is literally paid for what is the issue? It’s sounds like you’re talking about investing in real estate to make a profit. Which has driven many people into bankruptcy. I don’t care how many episodes of flip this house you have watched. The real estate market is not constant. It’s ever changing. And shit like the stock market bust of ‘08, or the Covid outbreak of 2 years ago can decimate a person.

Why the hell would anybody actually care about the house Amanda and Nina own? That’s the part I don’t really get? If it’s good enough for them.. Hello.
Do you actually think there aren't people on this site that have a day job they may be good at? I don't learn how to manage my money on whatever flip this house show is.

If you don't understand why it's bad to have your house paid off, you aren't in a position to discuss fiscally responsible behavior. As someone that worked at a hedge fund as an analyst in 2008 (before and after), as someone who can tell the differences from conservatively investing in real estate vs. overextending yourself to where a bankruptcy is possible, I can talk about fiscally responsible behavior. And it's not about caring as much as it surprised me that Amanda is another athlete being dumb with her money. Not as dumb as buying cars and stupid shit, but still she doesn't quite get it.
 
Amanda didn’t break Cyborg mentally she shut Cyborg’s brain off. But other than that I agree

Tell me which is worse getting KO'd in a fight or getting dominated then quitting by tapping out to submission that wasn't even locked in? Julianna dominated Amanda and made her quit.


Nunes quitting right here.
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The submission was not even locked in embarrassing and the UFC is giving her a rematch. At least Cyborg went out with her heart on her sleeve and the UFC refused to give her a rematch and released her because they were afraid she might win if given the rematch.
 
Nah; Amanda wasnt mentally broke cause Juliana didnt back down, she got mentally broke cause she was out of shape, ran out of gas and gave up.

This was way more about a fighters being better phisically and conditioting prepared than the other.
Actually Juliana was landing the better shots from the very beginning of the fight. While I do agree with you in some sense, Juliana looked to be more effective from the opening bell other than the first leg kick she took. So one could argue she would have won even if Nunes was in better shape. Also nunes looked shredded at the weigh ins and looked to be in better shape than previous fights at 135 or 145. She had toned abs which I've never seen her have before.
 
Do you actually think there aren't people on this site that have a day job they may be good at? I don't learn how to manage my money on whatever flip this house show is.

If you don't understand why it's bad to have your house paid off, you aren't in a position to discuss fiscally responsible behavior. As someone that worked at a hedge fund as an analyst in 2008 (before and after), as someone who can tell the differences from conservatively investing in real estate vs. overextending yourself to where a bankruptcy is possible, I can talk about fiscally responsible behavior. And it's not about caring as much as it surprised me that Amanda is another athlete being dumb with her money. Not as dumb as buying cars and stupid shit, but still she doesn't quite get it.
I most likely bought my first house before you were out of diapers. I’m merely calling bullshit because I’ve actually been around for decades, and seen a $300K property drop by 30% due to whatever. Think and say what you want. I’ll just go with what I know to actually be fact.
 
I most likely bought my first house before you were out of diapers. I’m merely calling bullshit because I’ve actually been around for decades, and seen a $300K property drop by 30% due to whatever. Think and say what you want. I’ll just go with what I know to actually be fact.
Do you want to run through the math? Even in all the circumstances where housing drops 30% over the next 12 months, using leverage to increase your wealth in real estate has been proven mathematically. You can act like being you're older (which you very well could be, you would have to be a senior citizen for your diaper claim to be true) means you know more, but that isn't the case when you use the wrong information to form opinions and stick to them decades later. The math works with what I am saying, not what you're saying. I know this, because I have not only made a living doing it, but I have also used those same skills to benefit the companies I have worked for. Your self righteous age nonsense won't get you anywhere with other adults who have life experience as well. Peddle that nonsense elsewhere.
 
Do you want to run through the math? Even in all the circumstances where housing drops 30% over the next 12 months, using leverage to increase your wealth in real estate has been proven mathematically. You can act like being you're older (which you very well could be, you would have to be a senior citizen for your diaper claim to be true) means you know more, but that isn't the case when you use the wrong information to form opinions and stick to them decades later. The math works with what I am saying, not what you're saying. I know this, because I have not only made a living doing it, but I have also used those same skills to benefit the companies I have worked for. Your self righteous age nonsense won't get you anywhere with other adults who have life experience as well. Peddle that nonsense elsewhere.
Have a nice day. Engaging with trolls earned me my yellow card. I know you’re so full of shit it isn’t even funny. Some kid talking about hypotheticals vs my real world experience.

Go away.
 
… and what Cyborg did to Gina Carano
I don't think Gina broke mentally because Cyborg didn't back down. Gina just got her ass beat along with the fact that she already had one foot out the door.
 
Not even close, Nunes beat the brakes off Peña but then she got tired and fought dumb, Nunes vs Cyborg was a 1 minute fight, rockem sockem robots style.
 
How did Nunes break Cyborg? Cyborg got KTFO due to her very poor fight IQ, she didn't break. Nunes clearly broke though.
 
Cyborg never wanted that taste again, and left UFC with a stupid excuse.

Care to back that claim up?
I seem to remember Dana not wanting to pay her and so she walked.
Fighter pay is considered by many, myself included, to be the biggest problem in the sport. She was headed to a tough negotiation on a win. With a loss she was at a bargaining disadvantage and resigning with the UFC when they basically didn't have a weight class for her and she was butting heads with dana just didn't make sense (hell they still don't have enough fighters signed to fill a top 10).

Her losing that fight gave Dana the power to market Amanda the way he did. Why would he resign Cyborg and pay her when he makes just as much money casting her aside and pretending Amanda would dominate any rematch?
 
Have a nice day. Engaging with trolls earned me my yellow card. I know you’re so full of shit it isn’t even funny. Some kid talking about hypotheticals vs my real world experience.

Go away.
I'm not trolling, I'm not a kid, and I'm happy to engage this in a forum that doesn't risk you a yellow. I can send you an excel showing you the math behind how investing in real estate with leverage works better than owning outright or owning modestly, even if there is a 30% correction every 15 years. Hell we can hop on a zoom and I'll create the calculation with you. I think you need to recognize some of us on here are grown and successful and that maybe our opposing views are rooted in something material and meaningful.
 
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You should probably learn what actually happened. Cyborg wanted the rematch as soon as possible. Uncle Goof obviously didn't.
The Purple Goof always hated Borg because of his love for Ronda, and the first chance he got to throw her away he did - the fact she went undefeated for so long, while even someone as dominant as Nunes just lost, is a testament to how good she really was.

If dw invested in Borg originally, it would have been a smarter business move long term. Instead, they created a 135 lb division so that Ronda could beat up soccer moms, but she was so weak that a pillow fisted boxer with just a few years of MMA ended up murking her and upsetting the apple cart. You invest in the best fighters: anything else is a recipe for disaster long term - see Kimbo and EliteXC. The UFC used to be all about "the best fighting the best", but it did not take much for Eskimo bro Dana to change his tune when he got pussy whipped.
 
You were pointing to Cyborgs record post-Nunes. I added the important detail that most of them were unimpressive opponents.

Right, but the OP said that Cyborg was "broken." Leaving the UFC to go dominate Bellator isn't being broken. If she struggled in her fights or lost a few, it would make sense. Cyborg already beat the current #2, #6, and #11 women's BW in the UFC. Meisha was still retired and Pena was barely a thought in anyone's head when Cyborg left. Do people really think she was running away from the likes of Irene Aldana and Aspen Ladd?
 
Right, but the OP said that Cyborg was "broken." Leaving the UFC to go dominate Bellator isn't being broken.

Leaving an increasingly competitive division to go fight flyweights at featherweight could in fact be "broken". That's why looking at the details of her schedule matter as much as her win-loss record. I think Cyborg is a pretty tough chick. But she took a bad loss and hasn't shown the slightest interest in getting it back.
 
Leaving an increasingly competitive division to go fight flyweights at featherweight could in fact be "broken". That's why looking at the details of her schedule matter as much as her win-loss record. I think Cyborg is a pretty tough chick. But she took a bad loss and hasn't shown the slightest interest in getting it back.
You mean apart from asking for an immediate rematch?
 
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