judo hurts (1st timer)

[Bluesbreaker]

Bunch of solo breakfalling the first couple lessons. Front, side, back, rolling etc. And uchikomi of throws. Unfortunately we did not have crash mats. In fact I did not see crash mats and did not realize how much fun they are for a long time!
Did not take a fall from another for the first lesson. And lots of newaza in the beginning.

I should probably consider myself lucky I was able to use crash mats from the start. I'm sure it helped a lot with me wanting to continue, as I found being thrown quite exhilarating.

 

[ringosher]

Proper ukemi will fix it.

Also, I was tossed a bit in my first days but having muscle due to working out helped a lot.

Having muscle makes you fall harder when you land!

Have a word with the sensei. If it's remotely any good he'll understand that hurting brand new people is risky and likely to put them off for life.

There is a skill to being thrown as well as throwing. You need to come off them the right way. Then there is the skill of landing correctly. You need to know this stuff or you will get hurt. Also the thrower needs to know to hold on to you properly and not let you go and fling you into the mat. One throws differently in practice than in competition unless into a crash mat. You don't learn these skills by being smashed in your first week!

I'm more interested in Judo after the first lesson TBH. I was thinking it was going to be another hia hia hia karate lesson but it is not.

I like pain.

 

[jclaudevandamme]

Having muscle makes you fall harder when you land!

If you are relaxed they are like a natural pillow.

 

[tk99]

"Your first month should be spent practicing breakfalls." - Capt. Obvious

 

[Deleted member 405583]

I think he was safer being thrown by his instructor a guy who obviously knows what he's doing and how to loosen the force of the throw rather than his partner who also is a beginner and possibly couldve spazzed and hurt him. Breakfalls breakfalls breakfalls

 

[HIMBOB]

Any tips for a BJJ guy (15 months) when about to start Judo?


Also I have dodgy shoulder that is on te mend, should I avoid Judo more than I would BJJ.


Really looking forward to it,
Instructor is an ex olympian and a BJJ brown belt.

 

[ArTofF16hT1ng]

Any tips for a BJJ guy (15 months) when about to start Judo?


Also I have dodgy shoulder that is on te mend, should I avoid Judo more than I would BJJ.


Really looking forward to it,
Instructor is an ex olympian and a BJJ brown belt.

Travis Stevens?

 

[HIMBOB]

Travis Stevens?

In Australia, can't recall his name off my head but if you say it I will know it.

Goran something maybe????

 

[nomoremondays]

Any tips for a BJJ guy (15 months) when about to start Judo?
Also I have dodgy shoulder that is on te mend, should I avoid Judo more than I would BJJ.

I would say make sure your shoulder is as close to 100% before starting.

Also, don't know how old you are, but if you are 35+ strongly consider what you wish to accomplish from it, since you are already doing bjj, something which can be made considerably judo-esque with lesser wear and tear.

 

[HIMBOB]

I would say make sure your shoulder is as close to 100% before starting.

Also, don't know how old you are, but if you are 35+ strongly consider what you wish to accomplish from it, since you are already doing bjj, something which can be made considerably judo-esque with lesser wear and tear.

32, and thinking of it as extra training for MMA, just a new class to the roster.
BJJ I plan on doing long term, and having a very top game focus its not ideal to be pulling guard.

(not that I wish to do MMA for long but its now or never, so I am choosing now).

 

[Alaskantkdkid]

In Australia, can't recall his name off my head but if you say it I will know it.

Goran something maybe????

Matthew D'Aquino? That's the only Australian Olympian I can think of, and it's probably wrong.

 

[nomoremondays]

32, and thinking of it as extra training for MMA, just a new class to the roster.
BJJ I plan on doing long term, and having a very top game focus its not ideal to be pulling guard.

(not that I wish to do MMA for long but its now or never, so I am choosing now).

I know judo only. Don't know any MMA/BJJ so my thoughts are extrapolations based on judo. Hopefully somebody more knowledgable comes along...

If your goal is MMA, I don't think your window is larger than 3-5 years at max, considering you are a relative newcomer (15 months) to combat sports. If you are going to go to a traditional dojo, you will need at minimum 2 years of consistent training(three or so classes a week) to be effective against stiff opposition. And this is talking gi training time. Then you would have to re-adapt to no-gi which could shave off another year or so. This again, I think is an optimistic schedule.

I think you would be better served in finding MMA-specific takedown specialists who can show you a couple of effective 'tricks' in the short term that you could integrate directly into your bjj. In short, my humble opinion is that if you wish to do MMA now you do not have the time to learn two complete arts, integrate them and re-adapt them for mma. Since you are going for the 'now' cut out the 'middle man', get more specific and seize your one shot at glory ;-)

 

[HIMBOB]

I know judo only. Don't know any MMA/BJJ so my thoughts are extrapolations based on judo. Hopefully somebody more knowledgable comes along...

If your goal is MMA, I don't think your window is larger than 3-5 years at max, considering you are a relative newcomer (15 months) to combat sports. If you are going to go to a traditional dojo, you will need at minimum 2 years of consistent training(three or so classes a week) to be effective against stiff opposition. And this is talking gi training time. Then you would have to re-adapt to no-gi which could shave off another year or so. This again, I think is an optimistic schedule.

I think you would be better served in finding MMA-specific takedown specialists who can show you a couple of effective 'tricks' in the short term that you could integrate directly into your bjj. In short, my humble opinion is that if you wish to do MMA now you do not have the time to learn two complete arts, integrate them and re-adapt them for mma. Since you are going for the 'now' cut out the 'middle man', get more specific and seize your one shot at glory ;-)

Just to be clear I have no designs on holding a UFC belt, I just want to have a few fights and see how it goes. It shall only ever be a hobby and I don't think for an instant I will ever make a dollar doing it.

Done mainly gi, averaghing between 8 and 10 hours a week of training but that inclues Nogi, striking and smidge of wrestling (the coach left). I feel I am getting close to blue belt, but who knows.

I was just thinking that maybe a brief glance at Judo now could be helpful, I do not plan on doing many hours.

I was just thinking exposure to Judo, even only say 20 hours total would be helpful.

 

[HIMBOB]

Matthew D'Aquino? That's the only Australian Olympian I can think of, and it's probably wrong.

Got it,

8th Dan Goran Zuvela provides students with World class competitive Judo skills. Goran is an ex-patriot from Croatia, and previously coached the National Team of Yugoslavia. He represented Yugoslavia at the 1976 Montreal Olympics. He won numerous tournaments: a gold and two bronze at the European Championships, a silver and two bronze at the World University Championships and a gold at the Mediterranean Games, amongst other international events.

 

[nomoremondays]

Just to be clear I have no designs on holding a UFC belt, I just want to have a few fights and see how it goes. It shall only ever be a hobby and I don't think for an instant I will ever make a dollar doing it.

Done mainly gi, averaghing between 8 and 10 hours a week of training but that inclues Nogi, striking and smidge of wrestling (the coach left). I feel I am getting close to blue belt, but who knows.

I was just thinking that maybe a brief glance at Judo now could be helpful, I do not plan on doing many hours.

I was just thinking exposure to Judo, even only say 20 hours total would be helpful.

Oh yeah I get you completely. The only gist of my opinion was that since the learning curve in judo is so steep it would give you more immeditate bang for your buck to look at some other short cuts, for example, wrestling, to which it seems you already have some exposure.
In either case, good luck and stay healthy.

 

[madgrappler]

Just to be clear I have no designs on holding a UFC belt, I just want to have a few fights and see how it goes. It shall only ever be a hobby and I don't think for an instant I will ever make a dollar doing it.

Respect. Did the same thing but 20 years ago when MMA was new. Takes balls to get in there and throw down, I respect everyone who has done it, no matter the outcome.