Judges scorecards for Ferguson vs Gaethje

[Baltimore Bro]

I don’t have much of a problem with the 10-7 because Tony was getting killed but the judges giving tony the 2nd was a joke

 

[Karelinator]

why does he have a score placed for a round thats not over?


look at the jones reyes score cards. up till round 2 the scores were typed from computer. from round 3-5 was all hand written with pen. so half the score card was typed, other half was hand written

im no eddie bravo but this is fishy. also note that it looks like 1 person filled out every judges scores as the 8's, 9's and 0's are all resembling the same hand signature imo. weird stuff has happened in the ufc. if memory serves right i think it was Melvin guillard won a split over Tibau in a fight he got 30-27'd. Buffer never read the official score cards he just said "And The WInner By Split Decision, Melvin Guilliard."

Holy dogshit, Texas...

 

[grimballer]

Lost stream after 3, but it was 3-0 and the rounds were clear and wide for Gaethje.

it was closer than ppl say.

Joe bias commentating n gathje doing better than expected will sway ppl opinions.

 

[Pacemaker Joe]

For people wondering why round 5 was scored, it's a requirement under Florida's rules, not idiocy/incompetence/corruption on the part of the judges.

https://casetext.com/regulation/flo...tion-of-win-or-draw-decision-final-exceptions

(1) Scoring System.

Scoring shall be by the "10 point must" system. The winner of any round shall be awarded 10 points. The loser of any round shall be awarded one to nine points. When a round is even, each participant shall be awarded 10 points. Partial or incomplete rounds shall be scored. Any point deduction occurring during the partial round will be deducted as if a complete round were being tabulated. In kickboxing, points may be deducted from the points earned from each of the scoring judges for failure to execute the number of required kicks.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

For people wondering why round 5 was scored, it's a requirement under Florida's rules, not idiocy/incompetence/corruption on the part of the judges.

https://casetext.com/regulation/flo...tion-of-win-or-draw-decision-final-exceptions

thank you

 

[Ackmed]

I have to rewatch, but just from memory it seems a bit much to let a single Tony punch steal him the 2nd rd... Also, I feel like there could've been another 10-8 in there.

10-7s are rare, how many have there ever been?

"Saved by the bell" rounds typically dictate who wins it

 

[RockyLockridge]

Anyone else find it odd that they scored the last round when it wasn’t over yet? Obviously it wouldn’t have mattered either way I just find it kinda odd.

Or am I misunderstanding what I’m seeing?

I think i have an answer. the fight may get scored in the last round as a majority techincal decision if say the fight got stopped by a foul late in the fight. (see bisping vs belcher) so maybe this commission says you have to score the round at that point as if it had ended in a doctors stoppage/whatever makes a Techincal decision happen

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Rigging score cards is the absolute easiest way to fix fights, I wouldn't be surprised. But no need to rig the scoring in Justin/Tony <45>

 

[LoneStalker]

Worse than that strange 10-7 for a round that was not completed, is giving Tony the second round.

 

[NGute87]

The only interpretation I can give is that if the fight ended due to a headbut (or something similar) those would have been the scores due to the round already having progressed so far.

Score every round in case of a technicality. You are correct.

 

[Pacemaker Joe]

I think i have an answer. the fight may get scored in the last round as a majority techincal decision if say the fight got stopped by a foul late in the fight. (see bisping vs belcher) so maybe this commission says you have to score the round at that point as if it had ended in a doctors stoppage/whatever makes a Techincal decision happen

The regulations don't say why it needs to be scored (not that I've found, anyway, but I haven't looked deep into it), but it's likely in case the result gets challenged in some way, it gives the commission more info on what the likely result would have been had the fight continued.

 

[suffersystem]

why does he have a score placed for a round thats not over?


look at the jones reyes score cards. up till round 2 the scores were typed from computer. from round 3-5 was all hand written with pen. so half the score card was typed, other half was hand written

im no eddie bravo but this is fishy. also note that it looks like 1 person filled out every judges scores as the 8's, 9's and 0's are all resembling the same hand signature imo. weird stuff has happened in the ufc. if memory serves right i think it was Melvin guillard won a split over Tibau in a fight he got 30-27'd. Buffer never read the official score cards he just said "And The WInner By Split Decision, Melvin Guilliard."

Perhaps not the official fina score card? Dowsn't really have as much information as the other scorecard. Is it possible this is just to show the scores or something? Doesn't seem too official and to have some type in and some written there's no way they woud let that be released if it was offcia and already entered. That is just crazy....

 

[BEATDOWNS]

I think i have an answer. the fight may get scored in the last round as a majority techincal decision if say the fight got stopped by a foul late in the fight. (see bisping vs belcher) so maybe this commission says you have to score the round at that point as if it had ended in a doctors stoppage/whatever makes a Techincal decision happen

This is correct it is similar to a technical decision.

 

[jrleclerc88]

stat wise they were close

33 sig strikes for tony n 37 for Justin

Let’s not act like every round was like the 5th

tony was somewhat competitive and "stats" may have been close but justin was hitting tony soo fucking hard. those hooks were like heavy bag punches as hard as he could landing flush. my main concern was justin gassing as some point.

 

[RockyLockridge]

This is correct it is similar to a technical decision.

The real question is why does it look like only one persons hand writing on the score card?

 

[El_Diazo]

why does he have a score placed for a round thats not over?


look at the jones reyes score cards. up till round 2 the scores were typed from computer. from round 3-5 was all hand written with pen. so half the score card was typed, other half was hand written

im no eddie bravo but this is fishy. also note that it looks like 1 person filled out every judges scores as the 8's, 9's and 0's are all resembling the same hand signature imo. weird stuff has happened in the ufc. if memory serves right i think it was Melvin guillard won a split over Tibau in a fight he got 30-27'd. Buffer never read the official score cards he just said "And The WInner By Split Decision, Melvin Guilliard."

You do realise that isn’t the judges offical scorecards right?
the commission collects the 3 cards from the judges and rewrites them on that which is why all 3 cards are on one piece of paper. That’s why the McCall vs Mighty Mouse got fucked up cause the person who rewrote it wrote it wrong.

 

[xhaydenx]

So 10 seconds of one round negates the first 4:50 of that round? I mean, I know what you're saying but giving Tony the 2nd is criminal.

Yep. That was still a Gathje round.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

You do realise that isn’t the judges offical scorecards right?
the commission collects the 3 cards from the judges and rewrites them on that which is why all 3 cards are on one piece of paper. That’s why the McCall vs Mighty Mouse got fucked up cause the person who rewrote it wrote it wrong.

no i did not thanks for the post

Perhaps not the official fina score card? Dowsn't really have as much information as the other scorecard. Is it possible this is just to show the scores or something? Doesn't seem too official and to have some type in and some written there's no way they woud let that be released if it was offcia and already entered. That is just crazy....

you are probably right, but its still weird as to why some rounds are typed and some arnt. i got the pic from mmajunkie and it is the only score card with pen out of the entire card.

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/gallery/ufc-247-official-scorecards-houston-mma-photo-gallery

 

[Wicked_1]

No idea why the 5th is scored. It should have not been marked at all as far as the 10 point must system. Kinda odd, but didn't really matter in the end.

 

[cunglaowins]

One judge was about to give Justin 10 - 7 for 5th round...

Brutal