Jose Aldo's bjj

Peteyandjia said:
To answer your question: personally I think Aldo is more skilled on the ground, but that doesn't mean Conor can't do well there. Conor is a dedicated brownbelt who has shown hints of finesse: fluid passing on Holloway & Siver, slick escapes from bottom & a very specific escape from the classic TAM guillotine attempt by Chad. That said, Jose is a beast from a killer jiujitsu camp. He tied Faber up in knots in seconds when they hit the mat. Granted, that was a long time ago. Bottom line: Jose is better on the mat but anything can happen.
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no, conor is not a ''brownbelt'' he's a brownbelt the same way jds is a blackbelt. it's a given not earned belt. the times he has actually competed he struggled badly with regular euro-level purples. (as in he didn't even advance past the initial stages)

holloway at the time conor fought him was training out of a garage on hawaii, without a proper camp or even a trainer. and ''slick escapes'' from bottom? he exploded out using tons of energy when he scrambled back to his feet in the mendes fight, same goes for when he escaped the sloppy guillotine attempt that chad went for.


and as for conor, it's very unlikely (read impossible) that he would somehow go from being a purple belt (and struggling in comp) to all of a sudden being a brown belt less than 14 months later. especially considering he spent the better part of those 14 months rehabing a very bad knee injury.

a knee injury he btw caused himself, by using less than stellar technique on the ground, managing to trap his own leg in holloway's halfguard, not realizing this and then finished it all off by also spinning the wrong way.

mendes is a guy with decent pressure and mediocre passing, and he tore right through conor's guard with very little effort. it was sloppy planing by mendes that gave conor room to escape, because mendes didn't secure position fully before trying to advance. and as for conor's ''guard'' it consisted of him litterally lying flat on his back, there was no push/pull or shifting of weight going on what so ever.
 
Redhawks100 said:
He's got very good top control. He's more position than submission. The way he easily passes to mount is a thing of beauty and he's done it to multiple elite fighters.

If he gets McGregor to the mat, it's over.
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Mendes was supposed to obliterate Conor on the ground too. I don't think Aldo can do any better, unless he tires Conor out.
 
when has mendes ever shown anything even close to the passing ability or control to that of a black belt? (aldo has with everyone he's ever been on the ground with pretty much)

mendes rushed positions, that's sloppy. it wasn't clever guard work or anything on conor's part, which is why he exploded out using muscle strength when he escaped.

aldo will mount conor in under 20 seconds of them hitting the ground, you feeling froggy there finland and i'll happily bet you 5k american dollar on this being fact.
 
I think if Aldo gets it to the ground he'll have his way with McGregor. His top game in another world compared to Mendes. he's mounted a lot of skilled guys and looked very smooth doing it. I think he'll positionally dominate McGregor on the mat and smother him.

Not really sure how difficult it will be for Aldo to get him to the ground though.
 
Well Conor's TDD is almost non existend so i'll guess it won't be a big problem
 
EgonSpengler said:
Aldo mostly uses his BJJ to avoid subs and get the fight back standing. His TDD is also some of the best in the game.

I don't think we've ever seen him use it offensively in MMA have we? Maybe in the Hominick fight?
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You just need to open fightpass and watch his fights especially against Mendes,Lamas,Faber,Florian and Brown. I mean he mounted Florian twice and went for 0 TDDs himself, he absolutely had Faber in fits on the ground, mounted crucifix, had Browns back and stopped the fight via strikes.

I think the most impressive thing is the fighters above are no slouches on the ground, in fact the majority of them excel there, a combination of wrestlers and BJJ artists.

When you mention his TDD that's more of a case of his defensive wrestling which is excellent, I think once on his back fully though his game is weaker there. In the Conor fight I just don't see Conor getting top control unless it's via strikes, so if it does hit the ground it's most likely going to be Aldo on top.

I don't see Aldo subbing Conor but I do see a lot of roughing up and tiring out to a possible TKO on the ground.

P.s. Watch some of the fights I mentioned above, some moments of sheer beauty :D
 
Conor is going to get taken down with ease. Aldo's timing on his blast double is in the same realm as GSP.

On the mat, not a single fighter has prevented Aldo from passing guard with utter ease.
 
avengedsixfold said:
You just need to open fightpass and watch his fights especially against Mendes,Lamas,Faber,Florian and Brown. I mean he mounted Florian twice and went for 0 TDDs himself, he absolutely had Faber in fits on the ground, mounted crucifix, had Browns back and stopped the fight via strikes.

I think the most impressive thing is the fighters above are no slouches on the ground, in fact the majority of them excel there, a combination of wrestlers and BJJ artists.

When you mention his TDD that's more of a case of his defensive wrestling which is excellent, I think once on his back fully though his game is weaker there. In the Conor fight I just don't see Conor getting top control unless it's via strikes, so if it does hit the ground it's most likely going to be Aldo on top.

I don't see Aldo subbing Conor but I do see a lot of roughing up and tiring out to a possible TKO on the ground.

P.s. Watch some of the fights I mentioned above, some moments of sheer beauty :D
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Totally agree. Little side note tho, Aldo also has a great game of his back in staying in guard and avoiding punishment. You can see that in the Hominick fight. Also in the Brookins fight he got taken down and pulled half guard and spun right back to his feet. Took him like 10 seconds to get up. So he's very hard to keep down and when you can keep him down it's very hard to do any damage.
 
So Fresh said:
Totally agree. Little side note tho, Aldo also has a great game of his back in staying in guard and avoiding punishment. You can see that in the Hominick fight. Also in the Brookins fight he got taken down and pulled half guard and spun right back to his feet. Took him like 10 seconds to get up. So he's very hard to keep down and when you can keep him down it's very hard to do any damage.
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This is true, no begging the ref for a standup like a certain someone else...
 
plekz said:
no, conor is not a ''brownbelt'' he's a brownbelt the same way jds is a blackbelt. it's a given not earned belt. the times he has actually competed he struggled badly with regular euro-level purples. (as in he didn't even advance past the initial stages)

holloway at the time conor fought him was training out of a garage on hawaii, without a proper camp or even a trainer. and ''slick escapes'' from bottom? he exploded out using tons of energy when he scrambled back to his feet in the mendes fight, same goes for when he escaped the sloppy guillotine attempt that chad went for.


and as for conor, it's very unlikely (read impossible) that he would somehow go from being a purple belt (and struggling in comp) to all of a sudden being a brown belt less than 14 months later. especially considering he spent the better part of those 14 months rehabing a very bad knee injury.

a knee injury he btw caused himself, by using less than stellar technique on the ground, managing to trap his own leg in holloway's halfguard, not realizing this and then finished it all off by also spinning the wrong way.

mendes is a guy with decent pressure and mediocre passing, and he tore right through conor's guard with very little effort. it was sloppy planing by mendes that gave conor room to escape, because mendes didn't secure position fully before trying to advance. and as for conor's ''guard'' it consisted of him litterally lying flat on his back, there was no push/pull or shifting of weight going on what so ever.
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This x1000. Solid fucking post.
 
FinBJJ said:
Mendes was supposed to obliterate Conor on the ground too. I don't think Aldo can do any better, unless he tires Conor out.
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aldo has some gsp'esque guard passing skills. examples are his matches with florian, mendes and faber.

he also has big nog'esque wrist control from the bottom. examples are his matches with hominick and lamas.
 
Aldo will take Conor to ground, mount, get him tired, frustrated and punish him.

Why would Aldo strike with Conor if that´s Conor´s only chance?

Aldo has a explosive double leg and great BJJ and will use it.
 
His BJJ is very good and it is mentioned in every one of his fights. I like how everyone is saying that this is the key to victory for him and Conor has no chance on the ground. I'm certain Conor is training his BJJ like a madman as well as his striking. It's going to be a good fight.
 
TheLuckiest said:
His BJJ is very good and it is mentioned in every one of his fights. I like how everyone is saying that this is the key to victory for him and Conor has no chance on the ground. I'm certain Conor is training his BJJ like a madman as well as his striking. It's going to be a good fight.
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florian and faber, both accomplished grapplers who also trained like madmen during their fights where all powerless against aldo on the ground.

what will conor do to someone like that? he can't even get pass the qualifiers of a purple belt european level bjj tournament.

if you don't believe me, check this out: http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/7/1...he-last-man-to-beat-the-notorious-breaks-down
 
anthony stark said:
florian and faber, both accomplished grapplers who also trained like madmen during their fights where all powerless against aldo on the ground.

what will conor do to someone like that? he can't even get pass the qualifiers of a purple belt european level bjj tournament.

if you don't believe me, check this out: http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/7/1...he-last-man-to-beat-the-notorious-breaks-down
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Different fighters create different problems. Conor is big. It has also been 3 years since that tournament and I'm sure Conor has improved. Of course no gi competition vs an MMA fight changes things as well. All I'm saying is that everyone is acting like Conor isn't going to come in prepared for this fight and I think that is just blind hate. It is going to be a good, competitive fight.

Also, I wouldn't say "powerless" when both of the fighters you mentioned took Aldo to a decision. They were certainly beat on the ground, but Aldo couldn't get the finish. I don't see him finishing Conor like that.
 
Like when hematoma Hominick laid on top of him pounding him effortlessly? Aldo is a turtle on his back, purple belt level at best.
 
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