Jones scare the s*** out of me

My 3 legged cat would shit on Jones. He’s kind of the least intimidating elite fighter that comes to mind.

Remember this beauty?

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Exactly.

I’m not talking about skill or anything else. I’m talking about his intimidation factor.
 
The dude just looks like he's sad to me. Maybe all the problems and mistakes he's faced over the years is catching up with him. Maybe he knows he's about to lose.

You know what? That's a really good point. Jones always seems sad. Even when winning his titles or giving interviews, the guy never seems happy about anything. There is always a bit of sadness to his eyes and face IMO. It's like he can't quite figure out who he is or what he's supposed to do and knows he keeps messing up.
 
Dude… you haven’t providing anything to substantiate your claim that he doesn’t have sociopathic tendencies. There is a plethora of evidence to suggest that he does - and that’s without taking into account the more explicitly, degenerate elements that he has been found guilty. Rather, looking at the more nuanced characteristics of his personality - it’s quite obvious that he attempts to create facades of charm in order to manipulate others/ the narrative. It’s been present all fight week in interviews and on embedded - and that’s with the camera on, expect an even more callous approach off camera.

Ultimately, he’s a cage fighter, it does take a degree of apathy for others - but Jon Jones is just overall a mean spirited individual who can never take accountability for his actions.
I see what I see, I trust my ability to both logically and intuitively read people.

At the end of the day, it's subjective.

But the burden of proof isn't on me.

All I'm seeing is heavily reaching and mundane pandering in an effort to validate preconceived notions, narratives and long held biases.

You say he exhibits these tendencies. Name some and provide examples that indicate you're not an armchair psychologist forming in depth conclusions on a few clips.

Real sociopaths are cunning, calculated, cover their tracks very well and maintain the facade of charm effortlessly.

I see him as a flawed being but one that generally does want to do the right thing. I thought his speech to cormier after their fight was beautiful and genuine. His tribute to Anthony Johnson. Charity, stopping robbers, going out to handle rioters. He's done a lot of good but people just automatically call it fake.

He simply also possesses a dark side, that other end of the pendulum which is responsible for the chaotic and extreme moments in his life. People like him need to avoid drugs, alcohol and circumstances which will allow that other side to come out.

Many don't grasp the concept that humans can possess a multitude of seemingly polarizing traits simultaneously. Someone is either black or white.

It also explains a lot about how most fans analyze MMA.
 
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People say Jon is fake, and a lot of the time in media and interviews he is, but a lot of the stuff I’ve seen on embedded, he seems to be just speaking his mind. It’s felt a bit more real this week
Very true.
It looks like he’s speaking from the heart and not just saying what sounds good.
 
Jones is a horrible person.

He broke a pregnant woman arm and fleed the scene to come back later to pick up money.

He litteraly has no remorse about the situation and he makes this about himself and says he wasn't that bad for that woman she got clout and got paid (does not even know her name)
 
conor is a nice guy who try to act like a psycho

jones is a psycho who try to act as a nice stable guy
Conor is just a loose cannon and reckless person. Some of my favorite friends were like that…. I say “were” because you can’t hang with those types as you get older lol
 
Jones is a horrible person.

He broke a pregnant woman arm and fleed the scene to come back later to pick up money.

He litteraly has no remorse about the situation and he makes this about himself and says he wasn't that bad for that woman she got clout and got paid (does not even know her name)
Seemed pretty remorseful when I seen him talk about it on Rogan and during the 20 clips that came out shortly after it happened.

He deserves blame and punishment for being involved in a hit and run, he was likely coked up and fled to avoid getting into even bigger trouble.

The woman being pregnant was just an unfortunate roll of the dice though. Many people believe Jones to be a monster largely based on this event.

Blaming someone for who happened to be in the other car doesn't make any rational sense though.
 
He gets into a mode for fights. Some people really need that edge. Some people don't.
 
Definitely scary. One quivers at what he would do if unrestrained by civilization. He is the Patrick Bateman of UFC. But I'm picking up some shook vibes. I think Gane is the nonchalant Paul Allen with the beatiful ivory business card with ingraved tasteful font. Natural class which Jones can never get and he hates him for it but fears him as well.

You remember what Bateman did to Paul Allen?

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He had an interview with the BT sports team shortly after the press conference.

Talked about how he has experienced the lowest of lows in public, but then mentioned, that is life, and reality is some people get caught and others don't lol... Nothing about being sorry, or learning. Just that people get caught, and some don't.

Dude has no remorse, and feels slighted and like a victim that he was caught and not others who might have done the same. Just an absolute scumbag.
He's just a narcissist. Not a psychopath.

He's also one of the greatest fighters ever, maybe even THE greatest.
 
I see what I see, I trust my ability to both logically and intuitively read people.

At the end of the day, it's subjective.

But the burden of proof isn't on me.

All I'm seeing is heavily reaching and mundane pandering in an effort to validate preconceived notions, narratives and long held biases.

You say he exhibits these tendencies. Name some and provide examples that indicate you're not an armchair psychologist forming in depth conclusions on a few clips.

Real sociopaths are cunning, calculated, cover their tracks very well and maintain the facade of charm effortlessly.

I see him as a flawed being but one that generally does want to do the right thing. I thought his speech to cormier after their fight was beautiful and genuine. His tribute to Anthony Johnson. Charity, stopping robbers, going out to handle rioters. He's done a lot of good but people just automatically call it fake.

He simply also possesses a dark side, that other end of the pendulum which is responsible for the chaotic and extreme moments in his life. People like him need to avoid drugs, alcohol and circumstances which will allow that other side to come out.

Many don't grasp the concept that humans can possess a multitude of seemingly polarizing traits simultaneously. Someone is either black or white.

It also explains a lot about how most fans analyze MMA.

You really want me to list the most obvious traits that assume Jon Jones is a sociopath? Okay, if that will make you happy:

  • Ignoring right and wrong.
  • Telling lies to take advantage of others.
  • Not being sensitive to or respectful of others.
  • Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or pleasure.
  • Having a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated.
  • Having problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
  • Being hostile, aggressive, violent or threatening to others.
  • Feeling no guilt about harming others.
  • Doing dangerous things with no regard for the safety of self or others.
  • Being irresponsible and failing to fulfill work or financial responsibilities.
  • Substance abuse issues.
There is substantial evidence that Jon Jones meets all of these on the criteria.

It’s ironic you accuse me of being unable to comprehend that people hold a multitude of traits/characteristics - yet you ascribe the same thought process to what constitutes a sociopath. Most fundamental to sociopaths are their lack of apathy - and that dictates each and every other aspect. Jon has lived the majority of his life in the limelight, it is why it’s so easy to diagnose him. To think that he isn’t cunning or calculated is somewhat doing him a disservice lol.
 
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  • Having problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
  • Being hostile, aggressive, violent or threatening to others.
  • Feeling no guilt about harming others.
  • Doing dangerous things with no regard for the safety of self or others.
  • Being irresponsible and failing to fulfill work or financial responsibilities.
Good guy Jones cleans up trash in the streets of Albuquerque:
 
I hate this place sometimes.

There is nothing scary about Jon Jones. And if you think there is, you really need to get out more.
 
You really want me to list the most obvious traits that assume Jon Jones is a sociopath? Okay, if that will make you happy:

  • Ignoring right and wrong.
  • Telling lies to take advantage of others.
  • Not being sensitive to or respectful of others.
  • Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or pleasure.
  • Having a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated.
  • Having problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
  • Being hostile, aggressive, violent or threatening to others.
  • Feeling no guilt about harming others.
  • Doing dangerous things with no regard for the safety of self or others.
  • Being irresponsible and failing to fulfill work or financial responsibilities.
  • Substance abuse issues.
There is substantial evidence that Jon Jones meets all of these on the criteria.

It’s ironic you accuse me of being unable to comprehend that people hold a multitude of traits/characteristics - yet you ascribe the same thought process to what constitutes a sociopath. Most fundamental to sociopaths are their lack of apathy - and that dictates each and every other aspect. Jon has lived the majority of his life in the limelight, it is why it’s so easy to diagnose him. To think that he isn’t cunning or calculated is somewhat doing him a disservice lol.
Armchair psychology at its finest

"Substantial evidence"

I don't think you know what constitutes evidence. You just listed off a googled list of basic sociopathic traits. Without clear and specific examples and an objective determination that he fits those characteristics without a shadow of a doubt, it's just a lot of words but no substance. It would also need to be factored against positive exhibitions of character to create a full picture.

Again, people are capable of a multitude of polarizing characteristics. Light, dark and all things between.

You're just cherry picking, reaching, trying to make things fit your own biased, preconceived notions.

There isn't any real critical thought and objectively that goes Into these mundane psychological assessments.

It's armchair psychology from people who've read a few Google articles but never actually experienced such humans in real life.
 
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