Social Jon Stewart showing why he's great (PACT act)

[regmma123]

Republican Senators blocked the bill

and then first bumped in celebration

You cant make this stuff up

 

[spamking]

Nobody going to mention why it was blocked?

Despite the partisan fight over mandatory spending, there remains strong bipartisan support for the underlying effort to help more than 3.5 million veterans who were exposed to toxic substances while on overseas deployments.
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The measure is expected to cost nearly $280 billion over a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

While both chambers had passed nearly identical measures in recent months, a second vote was deemed necessary to remove an obscure tax provision added by the Senate that drew objections from the House. Since the House had never considered the tax provision, it ran afoul of a constitutional requirement that all revenue measures must originate in the House.

The revised bill strips out that provision, which would have let doctors, nurses and other health care providers receive tax-free buyouts of their contracts if they agree to work for the VA at rural veterans’ clinics.

Link: https://rollcall.com/2022/07/27/veterans-toxic-exposure-bill-delayed-as-cloture-attempt-rejected/

I mean, if we can send billions to Ukraine I think we can fund this pretty easily. Mandatory spending or not.

 

[SammyPops]

Those republicans are real pieces of shit. They don’t give a fuck about the military only if they can use it to virtue signal their “patriotism”.

the rich have never givena fuck about the poor who fight theri wars.

 

[ElKarlo]

I don’t like him, but this was a good and a long fight to fight. Glad he stuck through it.

 

[Fake Doctor]

Nobody going to mention why it was blocked?



Link: https://rollcall.com/2022/07/27/veterans-toxic-exposure-bill-delayed-as-cloture-attempt-rejected/

I mean, if we can send billions to Ukraine I think we can fund this pretty easily. Mandatory spending or not.

I was kind of wondering why. Any time one of these eyebrow raising votes happens that has people parading around declaring this or that side evil there is usually a reason for the downvote that people conveniently ignore. Heck, keeping that reason obscure is part of the political game in the public side of US politics.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

POTUS Jon Stewart. Sounds great.

 

[fingercuffs]

Wonder if you'd give him that credit if he was a righty.

Provide examples of a "righty" doing the same.

 

[spamking]

I was kind of wondering why. Any time one of these eyebrow raising votes happens that has people parading around declaring this or that side evil there is usually a reason for the downvote that people conveniently ignore. Heck, keeping that reason obscure is part of the political game in the public side of US politics.

The smoke and mirrors of politics. Makes this sort of thing way more ridiculous.

 

[Sano]

Republican Senators blocked the bill

and then first bumped in celebration

You cant make this stuff up

Reminds me of after the speech to congress in the second video of the OP, McConnell's responded with how he didn't understand why Stewart was all "bent out of shape".

 

[Cajun]

This is why people are cynical on politics.... politicians do things for a purpose... always... just not for the people. They put up the bill for show and it gets blocked for show... nothing more or less to it.

 

[emefer]

To be fair, there are likely all kinds of "righties" pushing for improved veteran causes (most military are conservative?). But they aren't Hollywood celebs who garner even a modicum of the same attention or headlines so you'd see almost nothing of it.
It's good than Jon is using his weight though, do what you can.

Why don’t you go research and see if you can answer that instead of making a statement with a question mark.

 

[emefer]

Provide examples of a "righty" doing the same.

They have this much passion when arguing to provide the rich with tax cuts. Repugnant-cons

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

imagine being so retarded you fall this over and over again.

 

[chardog]

400b is a lot of money, as well as the other slush funds Jon mentions

probably better we shuffle the proxy war monies to the vets

 

[panamaican]

I think Pat Toomey said that his issue was that the money was moved from discretionary spending to mandatory spending. And that left $200B in unallocated discretionary spending, which could be used for things he disagrees with. I don't know what potential future discretionary spending he's concerned about though.

 

[Sano]

I think Pat Toomey said that his issue was that the money was moved from discretionary spending to mandatory spending. And that left $200B in unallocated discretionary spending, which could be used for things he disagrees with. I don't know what potential future discretionary spending he's concerned about though.

As far as I can tell, he's full of it. Yes, the bill is mandatory spending, precisely so that congress can't decide to not allocate funding next year like they¨ve done with so many other bills. But, his claim that hundred of billions of dollars will be used as a slush fund for unrelated spending seems to be made up. This is the bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th...73/text#toc-H5A4DD3F38E6349A290FCBCC162532FB5

Ҥ 324. Cost of War Toxic Exposures Fund
“(a) Establishment.—There is hereby established in the Treasury of the United States an account to be known as the ‘Cost of War Toxic Exposures Fund’ (the ‘Fund’), to be administered by the Secretary.

“(b) Deposits.—There shall be deposited in the Fund such amounts as may be appropriated to the Fund pursuant to subsection (c).

“(c) Authorization Of Appropriations.—There is authorized to be appropriated to the Fund for fiscal year 2023 and each subsequent fiscal year such sums as are necessary to increase funding, over the fiscal year 2021 level, for investment in—

“(1) the delivery of veterans’ health care associated with exposure to environmental hazards in the active military, naval, air, or space service in programs administered by the Under Secretary for Health;

“(2) any expenses incident to the delivery of veterans’ health care and benefits associated with exposure to environmental hazards in the active military, naval, air, or space service, including administrative expenses, such as information technology and claims processing and appeals, and excluding leases as authorized or approved under section 8104 of this title; and

“(3) medical and other research relating to exposure to environmental hazards."

Maybe you could help here, but I'm reading that as the funds specifically has to be necessary to section c, and therefor couldn't be used to fuel an "unrelated spending binge" as Toomey claims. Convenient he's out the door after voting no huh. Also, why only this concern when bills actually help people and no concern about trillions of dollars in military spending with little oversight.

EDIT: Point touched on here:


Also discussed here:

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

This is why people are cynical on politics.... politicians do things for a purpose... always... just not for the people. They put up the bill for show and it gets blocked for show... nothing more or less to it.

Yep, if they really wanted to just help veterans, they'd put out a simple bill that just plainly helped veterans.

Instead they fill these bills with so much bullshit, that people wind up voting against it to block the bullshit and then the other side points and blames them for hating veterans.

These bills only need to be 20 billion or so and they balloon up to 300 billion with all the extra bullshit added to them.

The Government is second only to drug addicts when it comes to the least efficient ways to spend money. If you want to piss your money away and have the vast majority of it go into the wrong hands, then let the government spend it for you.

 

[Bob Gray]

I disagree with Stewart about too many things to name. But he's accomplished some incredible things for the good of other people, and for that I will always have immense respect for him.

 

[Sano]

Yep, if they really wanted to just help veterans, they'd put out a simple bill that just plainly helped veterans.

Instead they fill these bills with so much bullshit, that people wind up voting against it to block the bullshit and then the other side points and blames them for hating veterans.

These bills only need to be 20 billion or so and they balloon up to 300 billion with all the extra bullshit added to them.

The Government is second only to drug addicts when it comes to the least efficient ways to spend money. If you want to piss your money away and have the vast majority of it go into the wrong hands, then let the government spend it for you.

Simply not true, this bill is very specific in regards to directing funds at helping the veterans. That's why it passed the house with overwhelming support from both parties. Same people who voted for it, voted against it now for some unknown reason which doesn't make any sense outside of partisan politics.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Simply not true, this bill is very specific in regards to directing funds at helping the veterans. That's why it passed the house with overwhelming support from both parties. Same people who voted for it, voted against it now for some unknown reason which doesn't make any sense outside of partisan politics.

yeah...thats why it had 200billion extra.