Jon Jones: “ Ngannou, Black Beast, Miocic... I will beat all of them”

[Gabriel201]

 

[Kdup]

Should he have?reyes didn’t do shit with what he had? I mean Jon is super careful, he got popped a couple times and I think Reyes made him rethink his life, but Jon probably won.

 

[Kdup]

Should he have?reyes didn’t do shit with what he had? I mean Jon is super careful, he got popped a couple times and I think Reyes made him rethink his life, but Jon probably won.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Stan Efferding has connections to designer anabolics and PEDs though, for fucking sure. Maybe Jones needs that connection considering all the missed tests.

He's involved in sports that aren't tested, he doesn't know shit about how to get past USADA

I think if Jon was on PEDs he'd actually be gaining muscle

 

[woodsideQ]

You nerds just hate him because he's telling truth. Jon Jones is the best fighter in the world. Get over it.

with zero wins over a heavyweight. while we are at it let's say floyd mayweather beats anthony rui jr., doentay wilder, anthony joshua and tyson fury

 

[PicoPulse]

Whats in the bag steroids?

 

[Volador]

Who gives a shit haha. He will never fight Ngannou at HW.

 

[KOPPE]

Lmao at having Stan Efferding coach an MMA fighter

Yeah Jon is just getting fat, and will look horrible if he ever comes back

cheat recognize cheat

 

[Deleted member 506663]

Jon Jones will never fight at Heavyweight. This clown is wasting everyone's time

"wasting everybody's time"...lol.
Only the haters waiting for him to lose

 

[Dionysian]

You nerds just hate him because he's telling truth. Jon Jones is the best fighter in the world. Get over it.

Bro he's retired. Move on/get over it.

 

[Paladin]

Btw, I know that your physique means jackshit when it comes to fighting and Jones is clearly a prodigy of the sport...but he looks like dog shit. He’s just not made to carry lots of muscle. Chubby torso, skinny arms and legs. Added 60 pounds? lmao... not even 16 of sheer muscle.

All that said, I want to see Jon at HW. Very intriguing. Do I see him cleaning hw? Not at all. He will have great wins and devastating losses. Nobody leaves HW unscathed. He even has a decent chance to become champ if Lewis beats Ngannou imo.

Jones Talks a big game. Now we wait for him to walk the walk and back it up.

 

[Stormtrooper85]

"wasting everybody's time"...lol.
Only the haters waiting for him to lose

Hasn't fought in over a year, has looked incredibly underwhelming in his last 3 fights. Has talked about heavyweight but never moved up. Delaying his move another year?

Jon don't want that Heavyweight smoke

 

[Domitian]

Jon you're retired. Stop fronting.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

cheat recognize cheat

Efferding never cheated, he competed in sports without drug testing

 

[HHJ]

Jones is pulling a Rickson it seems.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

He needs to gear to get to where he wants to go.

 

[woodsideQ]

Then prove it, Jon, instead of ducking Ngannou

in his drugged ruined brain if he asks for $20 million for the ass whooping and dana declines he is not ducking

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Btw, I know that your physique means jackshit when it comes to fighting and Jones is clearly a prodigy of the sport...but he looks like dog shit. He’s just not made to carry lots of muscle. Chubby torso, skinny arms and legs. Added 60 pounds? lmao... not even 16 of sheer muscle.

All that said, I want to see Jon at HW. Very intriguing. Do I see him cleaning hw? Not at all. He will have great wins and devastating losses. Nobody leaves HW unscathed. He even has a decent chance to become champ if Lewis beats Ngannou imo.

I wish he would have done it when he was at his apex, which also coincided with slightly less massive HWs at the elite level. I feel reasonably confident that he would have beaten Cain by defending takedowns and being a more diverse striker (most likely with more pop IMO). I think JDS or Reem could have caught him, but think Jones would’ve been favored, too smart, too much timing, too crafty. Would have smashed up either if he got top position somehow and could’ve out-pointed them standing. Stipe would’ve been tough, he has pretty solid TDD (though DC took him down) and better boxing than Jon. Would have been very competitive if they met at their respective peaks I think. Go back a little further and I think he murks guys like Mir, Nog, Randy who were taking turns with the belt/interim belt. Brock who knows, weird matchup back then.

Right now I think it’s just a perfect storm of terrible. Jones is older, definitely lose his fastball a little bit. Can’t quite put my finger on what attributes have fallen off, but this isn’t the guy who brutalized Shogun, strangled Machida standing, sparked DC or even the guy who dominated Gus in the rematch. Just slightly weaker, slower, and less violent. Not good trends when you have an apex heavyweight predator topping the scales at 265+ of perfectly distributed muscle who is reaching his absolute prime physically and mentally. I think Jones gets knocked unconscious very badly by Ngannou. He could pull his head with the shots at LHW because he’s so rangy and has such good vision and reflexes, but Francis might genuinely be longer AND faster than him right now, and he’ll have no fear when it comes to navigating kicking range the way guys at LHW like Anthony Smith did. Bones won’t be ready for the aggression and explosive violence in my view.

Stipe I think Jon has a reasonable shot to beat. Tough fight, but if he’s quick and cagey and stays at kicking range I think he can score points and then clinch when he ends up in boxing range, land some bows and knees, and then escape. Competitive but he can win.

Lewis is so much worse at MMA than Jones that it’s hard to even evaluate the scale of the gap. Jones isn’t nearly as complacent and irresponsible as guys like Volkov who have allowed themselves to get caught. He does what Volkov did (I know he’s not as tall/long but he’s so much craftier and instinctive, it’s highly unlikely he leaves his chin there for one of those telegraphed bombs).

This all assumes that he’ll maintain most of his skills, chin and speed and add some core strength. If he’s fallen off after a bunch of tough fights, doesn’t add material pop to his strikes, and most of all looks as uninspired as he did against Reyes and especially Santos, he could lose to a lot of guys.

Just my two cents. Prime Jones does very well; this

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

At the end of the day, Jones won the fight he should've lost. It is what it is.

You think he should have lost because (A) the judges should have given the decision to Reyes; or (B) he was there for the taking and Reyes took his foot off the gas?

To me it’s more the latter.

IMO that fight was like a less offensive version of Hendo-Bisping II or Max-Volk II — one guy doing the best work of the fight in the two rounds he won (which makes us want him to win) and the other guy dunking and dunking and eeking out the other three. Reyes wasn’t desperate enough and didn’t close.

Think Lawler-Hendricks II. Very close fight that was in danger of becoming yet another decision that goes to the wrestler after the exhausted fighters spend the 5th clinched on the fence, but Lawler dug deep and edged it out on sheer force of will. If Reyes responded that way, he probably goes home with the belt (in fairness Hendricks is not Bones).

 

[MescalineDreams]

Btw, I know that your physique means jackshit when it comes to fighting and Jones is clearly a prodigy of the sport...but he looks like dog shit. He’s just not made to carry lots of muscle. Chubby torso, skinny arms and legs. Added 60 pounds? lmao... not even 16 of sheer muscle.

All that said, I want to see Jon at HW. Very intriguing. Do I see him cleaning hw? Not at all. He will have great wins and devastating losses. Nobody leaves HW unscathed. He even has a decent chance to become champ if Lewis beats Ngannou imo.

His brother Chandler has nearly the same frame and he’s a solid 280

Jones is 6’5” with a 84 inch reach. His body is literally made for heavyweight.