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Media Jon Jones Willing To Vacate Heavyweight Title after UFC 309 and Face Alex Pereira for a BMF belt

Please no. Just fight for HW belt, none of this silly BMF stuff which he will have to face Topuria or Holloway for (depending on who is claiming they have it) . HW belt has been held up enough over the years, we barely ever get big time UFC HW title fights.
 
TheMMAnalyst said:
Not sure if you are being obtuse or just can't parse something that contains multiple paragraphs, so I'll do a TLDR for you:

All I'm saying is his hypocrisy is limitless - he calls himself a "dominant champ" in a division he has one win in 2 years ago (against a guy coming off a loss for a vacant belt), then calls the interim champ who has defended his belt "not a real champion" that "hasn't done anything" while he claims there shouldn't have even been an interim championship and we should've just waited 2 years for him to fight a semi-retired fireman looking for one last payday while real contenders fight for scraps in his wake.

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What?

(Going to assume you quoted the wrong person)
 
TheMMAnalyst said:
Bro we are on a fight message board, what the fuck do you think we do on here except talk about fights?

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I'm not "concerned" in that I'm going to lose sleep over it, it's just an interesting development that some of us who actually pay attention to top fighters/big fights and enjoy discussing are going to want to have discourse over.

He didn't down-play Aspinal in that clip, he's down-played him in others if you paid attention to these things (as some of us do):

Tom Aspinall Responds to Jon Jones Claiming Interim Champ ‘Hasn’t Done Anything'

Almost called a nobody by Jones, Aspinall would put out a video response to Jones saying he "hasn't proven" or "done anything" in the UFC's heavyweight division.



“Not a Champion” – Days Before UFC 309, Jon Jones Dismisses Bitter Truth About Tom Aspinall in Brutal Verdict

“If he [Aspinall] can earn some things in the UFC [I may fight him] because I think right now the only champion he’s ever fought against or beat was Andrei Arlovski, who was way past his prime. He won an intern championship against Sergei [Pavlovich] and Sergei just got murdered in his last fight,”Jones told ESPN MMA.

Jones just doesn’t think Aspinall has done anything (so far at least) to deserve a fight with him. To the point that he doesn’t even consider Aspinall a ‘real’ champion. “So it’s like you’re beating guys who aren’t even champions, and you consider yourself a champion. He’s not a champion. And if I were to maybe entertain fighting again, I would say the person that’s most deserving of it would be Alex Pereira,” he added.

1. He's not a "dominant champion" at HW, which is what he makes it sound like - he was a dominant champion at LHW and has won 1 fight in 4 years against a guy coming off a loss, and that was 2 years ago.

2. He doesn't think there should be an interim champion when he's going to be out for almost 2 years (when it's standard to have an interim if someone is out for 1 year).

3. In spite of all this he doesn't want to fight the interim champ, who defended while he was out injured (which is supposed to guarantee him the next shot at the belt), but he'll fight another LHW that has never fought at HW before.

Maybe you should pay more close attention to these things if you want to comment as if you know what sup, or leave it to us "keyboard reporters" to do the work for you.

And if you don't give a shit just don't click the thread or close the tab once you read it, instead of trying to push some bullshit about "are you Bloomberg News? Are you a journalist?" all because we post our opinions on a fight message board of all places.

I mean I did quote my sources and everything I said is referenced and facts, which is more than I can say for 99% of modern journalists today lol.
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I am not talking about other videos

You said, "in this instance a relevant video popped up this morning in the feed re: Jones talking about fighting Poatan for the BMF title and when I watched the video I saw him downplay Aspinall and felt it warranted a response".

You said this video prompted you to get your journalism in and make a response and that he downplayed Aspinall in it. You keep talking about other videos and other posts from Jon Jones. but where is the one about this video you claimed he downplayed Aspinall.
 
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CasualBot said:
What?

(Going to assume you quoted the wrong person)
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My bad bro I thought you were responding to me the you said:

By the same logic he should vacate the title before Stipe since Gane was never champion.
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The fuck is this moron babbling about.

Obviously I misunderstood, apologies.
 
TheMMAnalyst said:
My bad bro I thought you were responding to me the you said:

By the same logic he should vacate the title before Stipe since Gane was never champion.
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The fuck is this moron babbling about.

Obviously I misunderstood, apologies.
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The moron was Jones, all good.
 
RedDevilFan said:
I am not talking about other videos

You said, "in this instance a relevant video popped up this morning in the feed re: Jones talking about fighting Poatan for the BMF title and when I watched the video I saw him downplay Aspinall and felt it warranted a response".

You said this video and not another one prompted you to get your journalistic credentials and make a response. You keep talking about other videos but where is the one about this video you claimed he downplayed Aspinall and prompted you to respond. I saw the same clip and saw he did not downplay Aspinall at all in the video.
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In my initial post I mentioned how he down-played Aspinal as a legit champion when he said "Sergei and Aspinal shouldn't have been fighting for an interim championship in the first place, umm they should've just been a replacement fight, just a main event fight."

When later context was needed about how he already talked shit about him earlier not having done anything/not deserving to fight him, I added it, but the fact of the matter is he said Aspinal vs. Pav shouldn't have been an interim title fight and we should've just waited 2 years for him to defend his belt that he won in his only HW fight for a vacant title.

Now that you've seen the other clips are you going to admit that he's repeatedly downplayed Aspinal or are you going to play this ridiculous game of "moving the goal posts" to make it seem like it's all about the original video and no other context is needed?

And enough with the "journalistic credentials" bullshit please - again, we are on a fight message board to talk about fights and your jimmies are all rustled that we care enough about legendary fighters and championship fights to have discourse about it.
 
TheMMAnalyst said:
In my initial post I mentioned how he down-played Aspinal as a legit champion when he said "Sergei and Aspinal shouldn't have been fighting for an interim championship in the first place, umm they should've just been a replacement fight, just a main event fight."

When later context was needed about how he already talked shit about him earlier not having done anything/not deserving to fight him, I added it, but the fact of the matter is he said Aspinal vs. Pav shouldn't have been an interim title fight and we should've just waited 2 years for him to defend his belt that he won in his only HW fight for a vacant title.

Now that you've seen the other clips are you going to admit that he's repeatedly downplayed Aspinal or are you going to play this ridiculous game of "moving the goal posts" to make it seem like it's all about the original video and no other context is needed?

And enough with the "journalistic credentials" bullshit please - again, we are on a fight message board to talk about fights and your jimmies are all rustled that we care enough about legendary fighters and championship fights to have discourse about it.
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Okay, next time add the addendum quickly. Also Jones was correct in the fact that they should have just been a replacement fight and no where was that a slight.

No ones jimmies were rustled outside of the ones posting these long BBC Journals to avenge Aspinalls maidenhood. Take care
 
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RedDevilFan said:
Next time add the addendum. Also Jones was correct in the fact that they should have just been a replacement fight.

No ones jimmies were rustled outside of the ones posting these long BBC Journals to avenge Aspinalls maiden hood.
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"Add the addendum" - now who's the one concerned with journalistic practices?

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Again, every time a champ has been out over a year they've made an interim title fight - why should Jones be any different when he ended up being out 20 months and had only won a single fight in the division for a vacant title? Because he was a "dominant champ" in a completely different division years ago, eh?

Clearly jimmies are severely rustled as you try to keep making journalism references and think we are doing this because we've got a crush on Aspinal or we're his manager or something, instead of just merely being fans of the sport interested in this clusterfuck of a scenario.

I actually find Aspinal to be boring as shit outside of fighting and despite being a complete narcissistic sociopath Jones is pure entertainment inside and outside the cage.

I just don't find Jones constant line of bullshit to make himself look better personally endearing - sorry for having an opinion on a fighter and sharing it on a fight message board of all places!
 
DecisionSplit said:
UFC set the precedent with Conor or even Bisping by allowing them to hold the titles and wait for a money fight instead of just fighting the most available ranked fighter.
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To be Fair, Bisping´s case wasnt that bad, he lost the belt to GSP a few months after the interim belt got made, and well, it was GSP, but Bisping already had a defense, not the most pretigious one, but still.

With Mcgregor took them a little over 1.5 years to make the belt available for Khabib vs Ferguson, his case is even worst than Jones.
 
The year is 2050, Jon Jones has been the Heavyweight Champion for 27 years. He has racked off three defenses in Stipe, Colby Covington, and a returning Randy Couture.

Legacy-wise, he is unmatched, especially with him finally putting the cherry on the legacy sundae by facing Dan CyberSevern next week, whose titanium cochlear implants allot him the best hearing in the HW division. Tom Aspinall has reached a record of 95-3, but Jon is just waiting for him to prove himself and "do something."
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Both of these guys have tried to move heaven and earth to duck the number 1 contender in their division. If they fight, it shouldn't be for the "bamf", as Jon Jones calls it.

BMFs don't duck.
 
I'm ok with this. At least he won't be holding the HW belt hostage. It would be hilarious though if Dana just technically strips Max Holloway to allow Jon and Pereira to fight for the BMF belt though.
 
Jones has got to be trolling right? BMF signifies a badass who will fight anytime anywhere. Jones ducking Aspinall to fight Pereira for a "BMF" belt would completely destroy the meaning of the title.
 
RedDevilFan said:
Where in the clip did he downplay Aspinall Mr Reporter?
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WoozyFailGuy said:
He literally just doesn't want Poatan to be able to be a real 3 weight champion because it would outshine what Jon has done. Really pathetic. Listen to how he words it "So we can both fight for a third belt"
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Alex is an MMA Force, Pico is an MMA Farce.​

italiamusica said:
Always remember that one of his daughters was calling the cops begging them to come get Jones
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Dad's on top beating Mom real bad,
her face is bloody and he won't stop hitting her,
Please Help Us Before He Kills Mom !
 
Söze Aldo said:
I'm ok with this. At least he won't be holding the HW belt hostage. It would be hilarious though if Dana just technically strips Max Holloway to allow Jon and Pereira to fight for the BMF belt though.
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I don't think they'd strip it, just make a new one, make the rules as they go along with that shit...

Belal is lineal BMF champ though.
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