Jon Jones Will Be Dethroned in 2-3 Fights Guaranteed

[kaufman03]

jones is better than all of the lhw

only cormier is the question

cormier-jones coin toss

 

[s10cky]

While I think Jones is the most skilled LHC we have seen, I think somone is going to crack him eventually. He just doesnt seem to me like the kinda guy that is going to take a punch. That is...if someone ever can hit him. Damn I just realized people hardly ever hit him. War Jones.

 

[Mike01010101a]

I don't think so even all mentioned guys are great.

 

[s10cky]

Sure Jones can lose, anyone can lose.

Jones is going to break all of the haters hearts. I'm a Jon Jones hater, but I have accepted the reality that despite me wanting to see him be the victim of an epic beatdown, he's going to continue to destroy people. Sure he might lose one or two here or there, but ultimately, he will hold that LHW strap until he can't cut the weight anymore, then he will move up and start humiliating the HWs until he gets himself in the position to take that strap too.
The butthurt around here will be HUGE, but I despite being a hater, have learned to accept the fact so I don't have to deal with the dissapointment.

For some reason I have a hard time seeing Jones Humiliating Cain. But the rest of the HW roster I can see for sure.

 

[wirerat123]

While I think Jones is the most skilled LHC we have seen, I think somone is going to crack him eventually. He just doesnt seem to me like the kinda guy that is going to take a punch. That is...if someone ever can hit him. Damn I just realized people hardly ever hit him. War Jones.

He's taken full force shots from Machida, and Evans and just ate em. That's why it's easy to dismiss his chin, HE JUST ATE THEM! So no one likes to think that he'stook some serious shots.

He took some solid punches from Machida, at least 2 that would have stumbled or outright KOed the average fighter. He took a head kick from Rashad that would have took many guys down, and a couple taps to the chin that would have crumbled many HWs.

It's easy to dismiss his chin when he's eaten shots from some of the hardest hitters at LHW, walked through those shots to completely dominate his opponents. If you don't think Jones has already proven he's got one heck of a chin on him, you haven't been watching that closely.

 

[dbase519]

Jon Jones will be dethroned by either Gus, Glover or Mousasi. Guaranteed. :icon_twis

I thought that you would at least say that Cormier will beat him. None of those guys that you listed stand a chance.

 

[A2DaK2**]

Machida will win the rematch.

 

[maiaman]

I don't like to make bold, "for sure" statements, but I'll risk saying that JJ will NEVER lose at LHW

 

[100 Not Out]

I don't see anyone beating Jon Jones but Shogun. Only he has both KO power and submission skills needed to defeat the champ. Gus loss set him back quite a bit. He needs to return to Machida time shape to challenge. I believe Belfort set the blueprint - those long arms and skinny legs are just asking to be twisted.

Mousasi also has a chanceif he beats Gus. As for Gus, I think he will get taken down and elbowed violently.

 

[gladiator40]

Jon should put the 3 of them to sleep all on the same night.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

For some reason I have a hard time seeing Jones Humiliating Cain. But the rest of the HW roster I can see for sure.

He and Cain is an amazing fight for maybe 2 or 3 years from now but a lot can change in 2 or 3 years. Jones should be in no rush to leave LHW, break records there first. He could get to 10 defenses there if he wanted too IMO..

 

[Michu]

When Jones became champion in 2011, I wrote here, that he will easly remain champion till 2013 and the only thread for him was Machida.
After he def Machida, I knew Jones reign will be secured till 2014, unless he face Machida again.
I hate Jones attitude, but that just the way it is with him - he is from matrix.
So - Gus, Glover, Mousasi - sorry dude, but they dont have anything for Jones. Jones propably could beat Mousasi with one hand tied behind his back. And other two... Jones wouldnt even sweat.
So I still belive, only Machida is a threat for Jones. Rest of the division can do shit to Jones.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

When Jones became champion in 2011, I wrote here, that he will easly remain champion till 2013 and the only thread for him was Machida.
After he def Machida, I knew Jones reign will be secured till 2014, unless he face Machida again.
I hate Jones attitude, but that just the way it is with him - he is from matrix.
So - Gus, Glover, Mousasi - sorry dude, but they dont have anything for Jones. Jones propably could beat Mousasi with one hand tied behind his back. And other two... Jones wouldnt even sweat.
So I still belive, only Machida is a threat for Jones. Rest of the division can do shit to Jones.

The Machida rematch will be easier this time for Jones IMO.. He wanted to try and strike with him like Rashad did and unlike Rashad he found some success doing it in spite of getting tagged a few times. But once Jones got the TD and landed an elbow the fight was his. I would expect Jones to strike less and look to get the fight to the ground faster in a rematch..

 

[xupacabra]

How about "based on performances against the same opponents"?


Here's Gustafsson and Jones stats vs Hamill, Vmat and Shogun (career stats in parentheses):

Significant strikes landed per minute:

Gustafsson 5.73 (3.98)
Jones 5.64 (3.92)

Significant strikes absorbed per minute:

Jones 0.59 (1.44)
Gustafsson 2.84 (2.29)

Knockdowns per 15 minutes:

Gustafsson 1.39 (1.28)
Jones 0.63 (0.44)

Significant strikes per knockdown:

Gustafsson 60 (47)
Jones 134 (134)

KO/TKO losses:

Gustafsson 0% (0%)
Jones 0% (0%)

Takedowns per 15 minutes:

Gustafsson 4.34 (2.56)
Jones 3.15 (2.54)

Takedown accuracy:

Jones 100% (64%)
Gustafsson 50% (50%)

Takedowns defended:

Jones 100% (100%)
Gustafsson 89% (84%)

Submission wins:

Gustafsson 0% (19%)
Jones 0% (33%)

Submission losses:

Gustafsson 0% (6%)
Jones 0% (0%)


And here's Glover and Jones stats vs Rampage:

Significant strikes landed per minute:

Glover 5.33 (6.7)
Jones 3.75 (3.92)

Significant strikes absorbed per minute:

Jones 0.98 (1.44)
Glover 3.53 (2.53)

Knockdowns per 15 minutes:

Glover 1.00 (1.12)
Jones ---- (0.44)

Significant strikes per knockdown:

Glover 80 (90)
Jones ---- (134)

KO/TKO losses:

Glover 0% (5%)
Jones 0% (0%)

Takedowns per 15 minutes:

Glover 5.00 (4.46)
Jones 1.84 (2.54)

Takedown accuracy:

Glover 100% (100%)
Jones 67% (64%)

Takedowns defended:

Glover 100% (100%)
Jones 100% (100%)

Submission wins:

Jones 100% (33%)
Glover 0% (23%)

Submission losses:

Glover 0% (0%)
Jones 0% (0%)


Both Glover and Gus are as dominant as Jones compared to rest of the division in both career stats and vs the same opponents and even better than him in a number of key areas. A few select flashy moves and highlights isn't the same as an overall better game. He's good but not immortal and there's a couple of guys currently on his level working their way up......

Hey man, that are some pretty interesting numbers.. Thread - worthy IMO..

Cheers

 

[Macblair]

I try not to guarantee anything in MMA.

 

[VorTeX Raptor]

I dont know, man. Hes dominating everyone he fights, but anything can happen

 

[MaTaLa]

Tell more more of this "guarantee".

 

[GhostBlade]

I thought that you would at least say that Cormier will beat him. None of those guys that you listed stand a chance.

Cormier certainly has a chance too but we haven't seen Cormier fight in the Light Heavyweight division. Just because he beat a couple of good heavyweights doesn't mean his success will transfer over to the light heavyweight division.

 

[GhostBlade]

I don't see anyone beating Jon Jones but Shogun. Only he has both KO power and submission skills needed to defeat the champ. Gus loss set him back quite a bit. He needs to return to Machida time shape to challenge. I believe Belfort set the blueprint - those long arms and skinny legs are just asking to be twisted.

Mousasi also has a chanceif he beats Gus. As for Gus, I think he will get taken down and elbowed violently.

Shogun? He got smashed by both Jones and Gus. Shogun is done and his best days are way behind him. He's not even in this picture.

 

[AP_RESURRECTION]

very unlikely, but anythings possible