Jon Jones weighing 216 over a week before his fight with DC.

[bad_k]

Oh man you are so dumb. Back to mocking you.

So in all sports every once in a while an attribute succeeds that is not the norm.
So a small subset of shorter people might make it big time in the NBA, NFL or other pro sports.

By your logic they then have the most advantageous frames because (and I am laughing at you now) they are a smaller subset making it. lol.

NO. What it means statistically is that you will see people with those dimensions make it far less often because it takes far more time (with the smaller numbers) for a skilled enough one to make it.

I can cite all sorts of examples if you need it but really why bother since you are too dumb to understand.

It the ranks of bigger guys (the norm) in the NBA, NFL, NHL etc who have the advantageous body frame and it takes an exceptional guy with a different build to break through.

You just won the award for being the dumbest poster on sherdog

Those small subset of shorter people who made it big in the NBA,NFL etc DOES NOT have the most advantageous frame unless they dominate the sport and is being considered the p4p best, GOAT etc. Did I really have to explain this to you?

Jones has the longest reach and he is breaking all sorts of records with his dominance over the entire sport.

Name these guys that you said are the "shortest" in the history of their own sport breaking records in their own sport? Name them for me you little air headed dumb ass.

 

[ermac88]

Which one of these guys has a record breaking reach in the history of the game?

Also what the hell does these guys have anything to do with you bringing up this fantasy idea of replacing weight classes with the length of reach that nobody else has suggested before?

Im not trying to clown.
But you dont get it
If fighters like these ALL with incredibly long reaches loose REPEATEDLY or are just downright terrible.
It means Jones is an outliar among lanky tall fighter.
Not just that, it would indicated there are other attributes that contribute to his success.

To a discerning eye, his skill.

 

[bad_k]

Im not trying to clown.
But you dont get it
If fighters like these ALL with incredibly long reaches loose REPEATEDLY or are just downright terrible.
It means Jones is an outliar among lanky tall fighter.
Not just that, it would indicated there are other attributes that contribute to his success.

To a discerning eye, his skill.

Are you really this stupid? I've been saying since page 1 that Jones is heavily skilled and talented accompanied by his unmatching reach.

Do his groupies only read the reach part and ignore everything else that was said about him?

LOL

 

[ermac88]

Are you really this stupid? I've been saying since page 1 that Jones is heavily skilled and talented accompanied by his unmatching reach.

Do his groupies only read the reach part and ignore everything else that was said about him?

LOL

I dont think realize who actually sounds stupid here.

 

[bad_k]

I dont think realize who actually sounds stupid here.

Maybe because you are stupid?

I've said over 10 times that Jones is the greatest LHW of all time. Am I not allowed to point out that he knows how to manipulate his longest reach and his execution is great without his groupies misinterpret that as "he only wins because reach no skill"?

 

[ermac88]

Maybe because you are stupid?

I've said over 10 times that Jones is the greatest LHW of all time. Am I not allowed to point out that he knows how to manipulate his longest reach and his execution is great without his groupies misinterpret that as "he only wins because reach no skill"?

no,
You havent cogently articulated a point but repeatedly mentioned reach and height often incohherently ans compounded with straight fallacious information.

 

[bad_k]

no,
You havent cogently articulated a point but repeatedly mentioned reach and height often incohherently ans compounded with straight fallacious information.

How much simpler can i make it for one dimensional fan boys to comprehend this?

Which part of these 3 points am I contradicting?


1.Jon Jones is one of the best LHW fighter ever (imo easily the best ever)
2. He has the longest reach in the history of the UFC and he knows how to execute and manipulate his build.
3. He can compete at HW if he wished to.

These 3 focal points are facts. If you would get off his jock for one second you will able to comprehend this without crying.

You are literally putting your hands over your face hoping these facts will go away.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Even more ironic is the fact that people are pointing out that he OBVIOUSLY was cheating because he's a Russian.

Meanwhile, they ignore the facts that every single American that Fedor ever fought has either been busted or is closely linked to PED use.

Tim Sylvia - steroids
Mark Coleman - steroids
Randleman - steroids
Lindland - Chael Sonnen's manager, so yeah, probably about 10 different steroids
Monson - steroids
Herring - steroids
Dan Henderson - TRT replacement because he had low testosterone.... considering he fought in Japan for years as well, we obviously know why.

Really its the difference between where PED use is most likely IMHO. Russia and the USSR before clearly have a lot of state sponsored doping but Fedor was never really in the position where he would have been involved in that. With MMA your talking more PED use on a personal level and in that area I think the US is ground zero.

As you pointed out the ironic thing with all the talk about PEDs in Pride is that the people who were most suspect were almost all Americans yet somehow this is a reason why Brazilian/Russian/etc MMA is dirty?

I have to say as well that potential PED use looks worse for Jones than it does for most simply because so much of his success has come from his incredible cardio, he started off with some early finishes but really its been outlasting opponents and late finishes that has characterised his run with the belt. Add to that the combination of great cardio AND being a massive LHW who cuts a lot and it looks like PED use may well have been a big advantage for him.

 

[MikeMcMann]

You just won the award for being the dumbest poster on sherdog

Those small subset of shorter people who made it big in the NBA,NFL etc DOES NOT have the most advantageous frame unless they dominate the sport and is being considered the p4p best, GOAT etc. Did I really have to explain this to you?

Jones has the longest reach and he is breaking all sorts of records with his dominance over the entire sport.

Name these guys that you said are the "shortest" in the history of their own sport breaking records in their own sport? Name them for me you little air headed dumb ass.

Wrong.

If a smaller subset of frame can only achieve the top ranks rarely then it is logical to understand that, that frame is not the one that is advantageous otherwise it would be more common for those with that type of frame to achieve similar levels of success.

You are pointing at the exceptions and stating they are proof that it is superior which is, quite frankly mock-able, just as you are.

So for instance if Allen Iverson had even more skill and was considered the GOAT of the NBA it would not be proof that having his small frame, for basketball, is the advantageous. It would be proof that he had such a higher level of skill he was able to overcome what it usually a limiting factor. Sorry but you are dumb that you think otherwise.

 

[MikeMcMann]

no,
You havent cogently articulated a point but repeatedly mentioned reach and height often incohherently ans compounded with straight fallacious information.

Honestly we have to give up on him understanding anything resembling logic.

His arguments are completely inconsistent and completely illogical.

He is saying if anyone in any sport has a frame or body style that is not the normal one for success in that sport and they are able to achieve GOAT level success that proves that body style is better or more advantageous for the sport.

ya he is that laughably dumb that he thinks that.

He does not see that, that body style is still not more advantageous (thus why others are unable to also achieve similar success levels) and that it is due to superior skill if someone like Iverson overcomes a smaller frame to achieve that level of success.

Anyway enough people in this thread have mocked and dismissed him and moved on. some people are too dumb to educate. Time for me to move on to.

 

[bad_k]

Wrong.

If a smaller subset of frame can only achieve the top ranks rarely then it is logical to understand that, that frame is not the one that is advantageous otherwise it would be more common for those with that type of frame to achieve similar levels of success.

You are pointing at the exceptions and stating they are proof that it is superior which is, quite frankly mock-able, just as you are.

So for instance if Allen Iverson had even more skill and was considered the GOAT of the NBA it would not be proof that having his small frame, for basketball, is the advantageous. It would be proof that he had such a higher level of skill he was able to overcome what it usually a limiting factor. Sorry but you are dumb that you think otherwise.

No you are dead wrong you obviously failed school.

If this very same small subset of fighters all had a record breaking reach length along with the skills to execute we will see a turn of events. It is no coincidence that that all top 5 HW boxers in the world are all 6'7~6'9 now. It is no coincidence that 6'11 Semmy Schilt is a 4 time K1 world champion.

No don't go misinterpret that as "Are you saying if you are tall you automatically win?".

You literally have an one dimensional mindset by keep responding to me in answers that are similar to "Are you saying that all fighters needs length no skill?" when this is literally the 100th time for me to explain to you that it is rare for someone to have BOTH the physique and the talent.

If Allen Iverson had the skill to be considered the GOAT in the NBA we will absolutely hear the narrative that shorter players has MORE potential and higher skill ceiling to excel in the sport of basketball.

However not even the biggest A.I fans will claim he is better than Jordan so you are literally spouting fantasy example.

 

[bad_k]

Honestly we have to give up on him understanding anything resembling logic.

His arguments are completely inconsistent and completely illogical.

He is saying if anyone in any sport has a frame or body style that is not the normal one for success in that sport and they are able to achieve GOAT level success that proves that body style is better or more advantageous for the sport.

ya he is that laughably dumb that he thinks that.

He does not see that, that body style is still not more advantageous (thus why others are unable to also achieve similar success levels) and that it is due to superior skill if someone like Iverson overcomes a smaller frame to achieve that level of success.

Anyway enough people in this thread have mocked and dismissed him and moved on. some people are too dumb to educate. Time for me to move on to.

The irony in this post is amazing LOL

Much the same way Jon Jones the p4p best most dominant MMA fighter has a "record breaking reach", if there was a HW boxer with a record breaking shortest reach reached a GOAT status over the likes of for example Muhammad Ali the general consensus will be that short reach is very beneficial at the top of the sport.