Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Chuck Rock, Jan 8, 2015.
Seems that little fact was kind of lost among all the Cocaine threads.
GSP never once tested positive for anything nor had any weird T/E ratios that would imply possible blood doping either.
Jones is phenomenal, but there's an asterisk by his career right now until this gets cleared up.
I think he also tied Melvin Guillard for most times (1) tested positive for coke. I could be wrong though.
His accomplishments are amazing and he'll probably break every record Georges or Anderson ever set, but if he's doing it dirty it doesn't mean shit.
We're running out of notches.
He will surpass him and anderson.
It's too bad that it was bullshit to test for.
In the running for GOAT discussion. No doubt GOAT LHW.
He has been GOAT LHW since the Gus win.
Now he's just gunning for the All Time GOAT status.
GOAT gonna GOAT.
Jon Jones is a decision machine.
Not a surprise at all, an amazing athlete and talent.
Hope his recovery goes well as a fight fan. Appreciate his style. I think he can manage it. We'll all have to see how his first fight with a bit of ring rust around all this will pan out.
I still don't think he has a cocaine addiction.
At least, I am hoping he just did it casually.
Would actually be impressive (since he has been accused of doing cocaine since 2012 at the latest) to be able to perform the way he does, despite having an addiction.
But are we running out of lines?
Bones is a joke. DUI, Coke, what else do you want. Not the GOAT by a long shot. That belongs to honorable and true champions like Anderson, GSP and Fedor.
GSP is my favorite fighter, but I disagree about the asterisk.
If something comes out that proves Jones cheated, that's one thing, but it hasn't, so there's no point tearing at his accomplishments, which are incredible.
The guy strikes me as a bit of an ass. That said if he has indeed done what he has clean it can't be knocked. Outside problems don't effect the performances and results.
Yeah, shonuf said there was a deleted thread from 2011 with rumors regarding use back then from a supposed old training buddy of sorts.
I dunno, seems a bit off. I can't really judge either way. It could be a PR stunt from the ole' UFC or it could be a real issue.
Not that I care, dude can do whatever he wants outside of competition if isn't illegal. Toke up, enjoy some snow, whatever. All the power, would just like for all this dust to settle and I'm personally hopeful he isn't addicted even if I'm not a fan of his personality.
I see your point, but there's some pretty strong evidence being put out there right now that Jones hasn't been doing this completely natural.
Like I said, I'll reserve my thoughts for if/when this gets cleaned up but for now my eyebrow is raised about someone who I once thought could've been superhuman.
I wonder how many more GOATs there would be, if all fighters had the same "unfair" advantages.
Should really think about that.
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