Jon Jones Gun (Glock 44 .22)

[Buff]

This is great...

 

[Stick upkid]

absolutely man, nice choice.
As the rounds are so small caliber, it holds a standard 20-rounds in the clip, very nice. Most 9mm are only gonna be maybe 14 or 15rounds.
Question : what do the rounds cost for a box of 50 in the States? just curious. I know some people same the ammo is pricey compared to 9mm ammunition.

It has been pretty expensive at times but I get the Hornady blue tip 40 grain for about $26 for a box of 50 so it’s not exactly cheap. I also have a few boxes of the military/Leo ss198lf 27 grain I got for around $30 a box. And yes I may be biased because I spent $1,300 on a pistol but I think it’s the ultimate carry gun, High capacity mags, light weight, adjustable sights and can be accurate at 50 yards light weight, high velocity and armor piercing capability. I’ve seen some videos of the 5.7 on gelatin and the wound Channel is larger than some of the higher caliber rounds lol I swear by it.

 

[Lint]

A .22 is not a BB gun. At close range, a .22 can do quite a bit of damage, especially to the head. The bullet generally doesn't leave the skull, so instead it bounces around, tearing up brain tissue.

The US military uses the M16 and M4 as the primary rifles, which are chambered in .223 (5.56mm) compared to the much larger 7.62x39 round used by the AK47 and its clones. The reason? The smaller round does more damage when it hits the body as it tears through organs.

A BB gun, though, basically won't even draw blood usually.

See the difference?

So basically the only way to kill someone with a .22 is shooting the victim in the head at point blank range, and that's a possibility.
And you say this is not BB weaponry?

If smaller means more damage then they should ditch 5.56 NATO and use .22 LR instead, Jones should acted like a good civilian and switch from .22LR to .45 ACP.

 

[froggyluv]

Should his gun be confiscated? Yes, until such time as he is found guilty, then it should be confiscated permanently, or; at such time as he is found not guilty and it should be returned.

Confiscated permanently?For a misdemeanor?? Harsh.

 

[TerrorTimmy]

So basically the only way to kill someone with a .22 is shooting the victim in the head at point blank range, and that's a possibility.
And you say this is not BB weaponry?

If smaller means more damage then they should ditch 5.56 NATO and use .22 LR instead, Jones should acted like a good civilian and switch from .22LR to .45 ACP.

Your ignorance and condescension are hilarious.

5.56 NATO is .223 - as in, the round itself is about the size of a .22, but with a larger cartridge.

And it's 100% not a BB gun. You can believe that or not, but unfortunately for you, facts don't require your belief in order to be facts.

 

[Towerworld]

So basically the only way to kill someone with a .22 is shooting the victim in the head at point blank range, and that's a possibility.
And you say this is not BB weaponry?

If smaller means more damage then they should ditch 5.56 NATO and use .22 LR instead, Jones should acted like a good civilian and switch from .22LR to .45 ACP.

No, 22 lr has a good chance of killing someone with a few centre of mass shots. A shot to the heart, lungs or surrounding major blood vessels will kill or atleast incapacitate an assailant every time. A shot to the head with any firearm results in death 95% of the time.
The problem is you have the be accurate as the rounds have minimal expansion and cause a smaller wound channel so you have a lower chance of hitting the above mentioned organs.

 

[Lint]

Your ignorance and condescension are hilarious.

5.56 NATO is .223 - as in, the round itself is about the size of a .22, but with a larger cartridge.

And it's 100% not a BB gun. You can believe that or not, but unfortunately for you, facts don't require your belief in order to be facts.

I'm not sure what made you think I don't know or agree that 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington are interchangeable, duh.

You said, and let me quote it here:

The smaller round does more damage when it hits the body as it tears through organs

I could give you a break have you said anything about muzzle energy, but you just stated that the smaller the round, the more damage as it tears through organs, take some responsibility for saying stupid stuff ffs.

 

[Lint]

No, 22 lr has a good chance of killing someone with a few centre of mass shots. A shot to the heart, lungs or surrounding major blood vessels will kill or atleast incapacitate an assailant every time. A shot to the head with any firearm results in death 95% of the time.
The problem is you have the be accurate as the rounds have minimal expansion and cause a smaller wound channel so you have a lower chance of hitting the above mentioned organs.

Right on, but why would he buy a .22LR that requires you hitting the head/heart/so when he could actually spend less and source a .380 ACP or 9mm instead? They all work the same way, but .22 < 9mm kurtz < 9mm parabellum.
I'm flabbergasted that Jones had a .22LR, it makes little sense to own it unless he had it to plink some cans.

The only other option, and let me stress how unlikely that is, is being fond of that theory where every attacker stops chasing you after being hit by a buller (therefore calibers/stopping power won't matter much) alongside being such a bad shoot that he can only handle .22LR recoil. Not impossible, but unlikely.

 

[POWER2]

He just has it to keep people from getting away. He'd rather strangle someone than shoot them.

In the case of most fighters and celebrities, it's probably better that he not touch them. As weird as it sounds, it's harder to prove that a fight wasn't instigated by him. But, if he shot someone, facing him, it would be pretty hard to prove that he instigated that encounter. Besides, fighters don't always want to fight everyone. Especially if there are multiple attackers.

 

[POWER2]

Right on, but why would he buy a .22LR that requires you hitting the head/heart/so when he could actually spend less and source a .380 ACP or 9mm instead? They all work the same way, but .22 < 9mm kurtz < 9mm parabellum.
I'm flabbergasted that Jones had a .22LR, it makes little sense to own it unless he had it to plink some cans.

The only other option, and let me stress how unlikely that is, is being fond of that theory where every attacker stops chasing you after being hit by a buller (therefore calibers/stopping power won't matter much) alongside being such a bad shoot that he can only handle .22LR recoil. Not impossible, but unlikely.

It's not a bad choice, if you're a public figure and don't actually want to kill anyone, just stop attacks. And you're uncomfortable with drawing and shooting higher calibers in split seconds.

Also, while a 22LR can do body damage, it's going to do quite as much organ damage as the other poster suggested unless you let off multiple shots. The FBI has this depth penetration study on different calibers. That said, I don't want to get shot in the head by a 22.

 

[Guffman]

This whole thing about the power of a .22 is kind of irrelevant in this case. I really doubt Jones went out that night with the intention of shooting anyone. But any gun can be lethal and needs to be treated with respect and intelligence. Alcohol, and other drugs, do an excellent job of negating those two aspects.

He's obviously a messed up individual who lacks impulse control, and has gotten away with who knows how much by using variations of the bullshit shtick I saw on the police video.

 

[boyer]

Besides, fighters don't always want to fight everyone. Especially if there are multiple attackers.

Unless they read the comments on their instagram. Can't believe how many people just talk so much shit.

 

[JosephTessaro]

lol pussy 22

It can kill someone just as easy as any other caliber.

 

[Poatan Power]

Guns aren’t registered, unless they’re a restricted NFA weapon or accessory like a full automatic or a silencer.

While this is true, the background check done to obtain the firearm is recorded and searchable. so if it was not a private party transfer, it can be linked to the last known purchaser.

 

[My Spot]

Your ignorance and condescension are hilarious.

5.56 NATO is .223 - as in, the round itself is about the size of a .22, but with a larger cartridge.

And it's 100% not a BB gun. You can believe that or not, but unfortunately for you, facts don't require your belief in order to be facts.

You might wanna look up the differences in velocity...

 

[Timmahhhh]

A .22 is not a BB gun. At close range, a .22 can do quite a bit of damage, especially to the head. The bullet generally doesn't leave the skull, so instead it bounces around, tearing up brain tissue.

The US military uses the M16 and M4 as the primary rifles, which are chambered in .223 (5.56mm) compared to the much larger 7.62x39 round used by the AK47 and its clones. The reason? The smaller round does more damage when it hits the body as it tears through organs.

A BB gun, though, basically won't even draw blood usually.

See the difference?

22 and 223 aren't even in the same universe. 22 is about 33 grains at 1300 feet a second. 223 tends to be about 55 grain at 3000 feet a second. There is a 10 x difference in energy.

 

[tenniswhiz]

No. But having it in the car while driving dead drunk...

But I think he’s allowed to shoot it into the air, just to make sure it works, or perhaps to salute a fallen comrade.

 

[Timmahhhh]

this guy shoots. Weird s*** happens when bullet that bullet starts moving up around 3,000 feet a second.

 

[Timmahhhh]

That is completely false, lmfao. Stop posting shit you don't know anything about. A .22 round will not bounce around in your skull. However it is obviously quite deadly if you get shot in the head.
The reason why 5,56 is being widely adopted instead of a larger caliber like 7,62x39 is weight (the amount of ammo you can carry) and "accuracy through volume", the wound channels of your average 7,62x39 are more damaging than that of your average 5,56 round.

I'm not sure about that. Look up 223 hits leg.

 

[WalterSobchak]

.22 is a fucking cap gun.