Jon Jones' Blood Test Results Not Released [Vid included]

eNoq said:
scrolling through documented tests from browne/barnett seeing 2.7, 2.5 which you expect and then seeing 0.19 from jones really puts it in perspective how fucking ridiculous this is. it's far from normal and he's been doing something shady no question about it.
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Yeah you're right. Both Jones and Cormier look like they're using PEDs by these numbers. I mean this one test is the human standard, right? Anyone off from these numbers is a cheater. I read it on Sherdog.

Wow, life sure is fishy.
 
Check the original MMA junkie article from weeks ago. The NSAC said what the blood tests were for from the very start.

They did blood tests only for hgh and a blood passport. Stop being stupid fucking conspiracy theorists.
 
neomage2021 said:
Check the original MMA junkie article from weeks ago. The NSAC said what the blood tests were for from the very start.

They did blood tests only for hgh and a blood passport. Stop being stupid fucking conspiracy theorists.
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Can you link to the article? It would be funny if half of Sherdog was raging over nothing.
 
LUDELOW said:
this is how bloodtests look

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3988943/BarnettBrowne.pdf


page 9 indicates EPO use but the lab missed it.
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really hard to tell as they seem to have mixed two athletes into one pdf.

im going to try and graph all the figures to work out which fighter is which, without that its nigh on impossible to work out anything from those figures. There are a couple of instances of high retics that look wrong and the off scores while in parameters are interesting.

but impossible to tell without knowing which fighter is which.
 
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Hokay, looking at the samples from that PDF.

its possible with a certain degree of logic to seperate the fighters samples based on times, sample numbers and then the t/e and hgh numbers for each test to partly work out which fighter is which.

There are extra samples on 28th so the 28th stuff its pretty hard to determine which is which..

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From that you get...

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Note: I think for pink athlete the final t/e sample is more likely the 1.92

Couple of things stand out, hgh on pink athlete, 8/11 sample

blood values of blue athlete. big jump in hct and retic (the page 9 sample raised in earier posts) suggests either EPo, or blood withdrawal with EPO to counteract it. Which is partly backed up by the hct increase and retic drop on fight night. (suggesting blood withdrawal on the 21st with EPO to counteract, and then blood in for the fight)

But, its very very very hypothetical because we dont know which samples belong to which athlete.

it must also be added, ALL Figures fall within acceptable ranges

For those not sure what hct and retics are
HCT is the % of red blood cells, most adults are in the 40-50 range, over 50 is generally considered suspect.
Retics is the % of immature blood cells. THis figure will rise either when using something like EPO which stimulates RbC production, or when withdrawing blood which again stimulates production. Retics will drop when an athlete reinfuses blood
 
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And yes, all the t/e from those two make Jones look worse (and Cormier to an extent)
 
Looks like the UFC is pulling more shady crap with burying Silvas results until post fight.
 
klnOmega said:
Looks like the UFC is pulling more shady crap with burying Silvas results until post fight.
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It seems MMA fans are almost choking due to all the smoke from the UFC and the NSAC. Surely there must be a fire somewhere?

Where the hell is the media in all this?
 
They dont need additional blood test for Jones, the CIR test is the strongest anti doping testing they have to date. Victor Conte asked Jones to take (IRMS)CIR test and not a blood test and that is because only a CIR test can conclusively prove the existence of exogenous, or synthetic, testosterone in the human body.

Nothing else is as strong and as conclusive to the test Jones took and Jones passed the test and additional testing.
 
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EmeliankoFan1 said:
They dont need a blood test for Jones, the CIR test is the strongest anti doping testing they have to date. Victor Conte asked Jones to take CIR test and not a blood test and that is because only a CIR test can conclusively prove the existence of exogenous, or synthetic, testosterone in the human body.

Nothing else is as strong and as conclusive that the test Jones took and Jones passed the test and additional testing.
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A CIR test in which he had to take several weeks after.
 
TheGreenRanger said:
A CIR test in which he had to take several weeks after.
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No, the commission decided to conduct the CIR tests on all three of Jones' samples.

He was cleared, when the CIR tests indicated no exogenous testosterone.

What you are saying is false.

Jones also had "additional testing" several weeks after the test. They took a lot of samples from Jones including a blood test.
 
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Anderson is 40 and coming of a serious injury.
What's Jon excuse?
 
TheGreenRanger said:
A CIR test in which he had to take several weeks after.
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They tested his old samples.

If Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) champion Jon Jones has low testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) levels (see them here), it's not because he was on steroids. That's according to Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), who cleared "Bones" of any wrongdoing -- at least on the testosterone front -- after releasing the results of his carbon isotope ratio (CIR) test.

"His urine samples were tested, and according to our doctor he doesn't have a concern with the results of the urinalysis test at this time," NSAC Executive Director Bob Bennett told MMA Fighting.
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