Media Jon Jones, 235 lbs, admits he's physically weaker since injury

[SamuraiBro]

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Jon Big Chungus Jones

 

[Trabaho]

He's also mentally weaker.

Granted, he was always mentally weak, which is why he partied the weekend before his fights so he had an excuse if he lost. It's why he cheated both inside and outside the cage. Taking PEDs and poking opponents in the eyes every chance he got. It's why he beat his wife etc etc.

Now he's straight up ducking the best fighter in his division in Tom Aspinall, to call out a fighter that used to make 185 pounds and has no ground game, once he's done beating up his grandad.

He is a cheater. He is one of the most mentaly tough in there. Did you see his fights ? No quit or signs of quit. He is also smart, he knows Tom is a real HW and he isn't with his paper belt. Pereira can't grapple well and is comming from MW. Pure duck. Goes for Stipe when he is old. Prime Stipe wasn't even an idea for him. His division is Lhw.

 

[JohnMandick]

 

[marvinparsons]

People who chime in that Stipe came in at 235 last time he fought as if that's a factor in this fight really haven't been keeping up. I wouldn't blame them ordinarily, after all Stipe keeps a very low media profile, but by now there have been enough Sherdog threads (with pictures) that show Stipe ain't at 235 anymore. He's been hitting the weight room ever since he lost to Ngannou, if he weighs in at less than 250 I'll be surprised.

Either way I don't see Stipe trying to wrassle. Maybe he's trying to get bigger to anti-wrestle, but he should be fine.

 

[andgonsil]

It's a trap

 

[Gamer007]

Jon is so good that he can call out the most terrifying man in MMA, and it's somehow spun as him being scared of Aspinall and picking on Alex lol. It's hard to read too much into these strength statements, because Jon is almost always using the art of war. Maybe he's at this point of realism, similar to the Ngannou preparation where he talked about the possibility of being KO'd, but him giving honest assessments just makes him more dangerous.

 

[VonSupervillain]

It's fine. He was fat anyway.

 

[JakePaulMMA]

he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes.

Same could be said about Pauley Shore in the early 90's.

 

[Domitian]

The injury was pretty minor, he could have still fought Stipe but didn't want to give him ANY little advantage. Dana said it was 'completely torn from the bone' but of course Jones was doing shit like this 2 months later:

Jon Jones executes perfect dump tackle on rugby player in Australia

Jon Jones looked at peak physical fitness just over a month after undergoing surgery as he performed a huge dump tackle on a rugby player in Australia during a pre-season training session.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I just need to correct this. Jon had to pull out because of the injury on October 25, 2023. The date that was posted was February 9th. Anyone who thinks that is 2 months obviously cannot do math.

 

[Poirierfan]

13 lbs smaller and weaker. Could be a factor against Stipe


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Jones is still in his prime for a heavier weight at 37 years old. While Stipe has one foot in a retirement home. I don't want to hear any shit from that cheat.

 

[HuskySamoan]

"Before my pec tear I was benching 315 for 5 reps and I had about a 500 lb squat."

If he has a Sherdog account these rookie numbers would be ban-worthy.
Mods, please look into this

For an 84in reach 315 5x is absolutely insane. Reach doesn't even tell the whole story, he's all arms...his shoulders are not broad like say, Brocks. And then then chimken legs squatting twice his bodyweight, I think he's allowed a sherdog account.

 

[Juice]

Honestly Stipe can win the fight within the first 2min if he just went after his fucked up big toe


He still complains about it and wraps it heavily when training

Exactly. For some reason people purposely forget how Jones has been fighting literally handicapped for the last 11 years after he broke his toe exposing the bone.

 

[JBJ was here]

I just need to correct this. Jon had to pull out because of the injury on October 25, 2023. The date that was posted was February 9th. Anyone who thinks that is 2 months obviously cannot do math.

Forget that; the tackle was 1) leading with the uninjured side at 2) at most 1/3 speed 3) into a thick pad and 4) onto a thick mat. He did practically nothing with his left arm. Certainly not doctor recommended activity, but also not even hinting that his left pectoral wasn't recovering from injury.

Conspiracy theorists are awful fans.

 

[Juice]

Jones couldn't take down Reyes or Santos who had one good leg. Stipe has the TDD, the boxing, punching power and size that has given Jones a lot of problems before.

For one, let me correct you, Jones took Reyes down twice.

Also do you know why Jones has had problems sometimes taking his opponents down? I will remind you. It's because Jones nearly broke his toe off with the bone exposed in the fight with Chael.

Every since Jones broke his toe it has affected his ability to take his opponents down and defend the take down.

Jones has been fighting handicapped literally for the last 11 years.

Notice how every fight Jones keeps that broken toe with tape wrapped around it?

Before Jones broke his toe he took every single one of his opponents down at will.

 

[Staph infection]

Jones goes out there all rotund like and embarrasses Gane in no time and people still shit on him. Slipe has nothing for Jones and will be dispatched in quick fashion.

 

[tritestill]

He's mentally weaker too

 

[Captain Herb]

I just need to correct this. Jon had to pull out because of the injury on October 25, 2023. The date that was posted was February 9th. Anyone who thinks that is 2 months obviously cannot do math.

Yes, thank you. and it was one month after surgery. my bad

 

[rjmbrd]

Jon is so good that he can call out the most terrifying man in MMA,

Alex got knocked out at middleweight last year. He's certainly one of the best overall strikers in the UFC, I can't think of a reason he would be most terrifying even in his own division. He went to a controversial decision with Jan and his last fight was against a guy that had no business in a title fight.

To be clear I'm a HUGE fan of Poatan and he's an incredible guy in the sport. He's nowhere near well rounded and couldn't defend the middleweight belt a single time.

Nobody at heavyweight is terrified of him.

and it's somehow spun as him being scared of Aspinall and picking on Alex lol. It's hard to read too much into these strength statements, because Jon is almost always using the art of war. Maybe he's at this point of realism, similar to the Ngannou preparation where he talked about the possibility of being KO'd, but him giving honest assessments just makes him more dangerous.

Jon is saying and doing what a prizefighter usually does - make the most money with the least brain damage. Aspinall would likely hurt him.

Of course he wants the guy who lost at middleweight in 2023, and never fought at heavyweight, who is an inexperienced grappler.

 

[Gamer007]

Alex got knocked out at middleweight last year. He's certainly one of the best overall strikers in the UFC, I can't think of a reason he would be most terrifying even in his own division. He went to a controversial decision with Jan and his last fight was against a guy that had no business in a title fight.

To be clear I'm a HUGE fan of Poatan and he's an incredible guy in the sport. He's nowhere near well rounded and couldn't defend the middleweight belt a single time.

Nobody at heavyweight is terrified of him.




Jon is saying and doing what a prizefighter usually does - make the most money with the least brain damage. Aspinall would likely hurt him.

Of course he wants the guy who lost at middleweight in 2023, and never fought at heavyweight, who is an inexperienced grappler.

I don't agree that Alex isn't well rounded, just because someone doesn't shoot for the crotch or pull guard doesn't make them one dimensional. Alex is one of the most skilled and diverse MMA operators of all time. His low kicking, power, timing, distance management, and striking variety makes him THE most dangerous striker in the UFC today, and it's not even close imo.

He has 63% striking accuracy and 70% TD Defense, and despite all this talk about being one dimensional the fighters who grapple him struggle to dominate him there, if they can even manage to close the distance without being one shotted.

Right now Alex is the potential fighter of the year and #2 Pound for Pound fighter in the UFC, trying to downplay his ability to fight isn't going to work. Alex got KO'd but anyone who watched the fight was in awe at how Alex was absolutely outclassing Izzy on the feet, out landing him, battering his legs, cutting off the cage and putting Izzy in serious danger of an early KO loss. Izzy pulled off a miraculous victory as great fighters tend to do, but that clearly hasn't hurt the stock of Alex as he's a top 2 fighter in the world right now.


Regarding Aspinall, I can only look at the facts. Aspinall's best wins are Bladyes and Sergei? Bladyes who got decimated by BB, Ngannou, and Sergei himself. Then Sergei who was the next big bad boogey man 1 year ago, before getting starched and riding a losing streak. He still hasn't fought Gane who is the consensus #2 ranked HW in the division. Jon is going to do what's best for his career, and that's making lot of money and fighting people who motivate him and enhance his legacy, it is what it is. History would tell us Aspinall is going to be starched by one of his next two opponents, so his legacy just isn't likely to amount to what Alex has already accomplished in the UFC.


Whether Aspinall is a tougher matchup or not compared to Alex, we just don't definitely know that answer. Aspinall has never even been to the third round his entire pro career, so none of us know where his cardio is truly at or if he's even the same active fluid grappler he was pre-ACL injury. There's just too many assumptions and fan theory being said at this time. What we do know is that Aspinall did not want to give Gane a shot at the interim title last year, and that pretty much sealed his fate at ever building a real narrative for a Jones fight.

 

[rjmbrd]

I don't agree that Alex isn't well rounded, just because someone doesn't shoot for the crotch or pull guard doesn't make them one dimensional. Alex is one of the most skilled and diverse MMA operators of all time. His low kicking, power, timing, distance management, and striking variety makes him THE most dangerous striker in the UFC today, and it's not even close imo.

He has 63% striking accuracy and 70% TD Defense, and despite all this talk about being one dimensional the fighters who grapple him struggle to dominate him there, if they can even manage to close the distance without being one shotted.

Right now Alex is the potential fighter of the year and #2 Pound for Pound fighter in the UFC, trying to downplay his ability to fight isn't going to work. Alex got KO'd but anyone who watched the fight was in awe at how Alex was absolutely outclassing Izzy on the feet, out landing him, battering his legs, cutting off the cage and putting Izzy in serious danger of an early KO loss. Izzy pulled off a miraculous victory as great fighters tend to do, but that clearly hasn't hurt the stock of Alex as he's a top 2 fighter in the world right now.


Regarding Aspinall, I can only look at the facts. Aspinall's best wins are Bladyes and Sergei? Bladyes who got decimated by BB, Ngannou, and Sergei himself. Then Sergei who was the next big bad boogey man 1 year ago, before getting starched and riding a losing streak. He still hasn't fought Gane who is the consensus #2 ranked HW in the division. Jon is going to do what's best for his career, and that's making lot of money and fighting people who motivate him and enhance his legacy, it is what it is. History would tell us Aspinall is going to be starched by one of his next two opponents, so his legacy just isn't likely to amount to what Alex has already accomplished in the UFC.


Whether Aspinall is a tougher matchup or not compared to Alex, we just don't definitely know that answer. Aspinall has never even been to the third round his entire pro career, so none of us know where his cardio is truly at or if he's even the same active fluid grappler he was pre-ACL injury. There's just too many assumptions and fan theory being said at this time. What we do know is that Aspinall did not want to give Gane a shot at the interim title last year, and that pretty much sealed his fate at ever building a real narrative for a Jones fight.

Izzy is an absolutely TERRIBLE grappler. He took him down with ease.

Jan out wrestled him with ease.

Alex is one of the best strikers in the sport and one of the most entertaining personalities in MMA across the board. No, he is not well rounded. He has zero submission threat.