Movies JOKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen JOKER, how would you rate it?

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KnightTemplar said:
Phoenix turned down roles as Doctor Strange and Bruce Banner because he didn't want to commit to long term, multi-movie contracts. Much like DDL, it's more about the art than the paycheque as far as he's concerned. They might be able to change his mind, but the usual method of persuading an actor to come back - drive increasingly larger trucks filled with money up to his house until he signs on the line that is dotted - probably won't work here. They'll have to promise him a role that challenges and inspires him.

Personally, I'd turn Reeve's Batman into an adaption of Arkham Asylum: a Serious House on Serious Earth. Joker has been locked up in Arkham for decades. He's dying, and decides to go out playing one last joke. He sets off a riot, takes hostages and demands Batman rescues them. Batman fights his way through his rogue's gallery, but can't find the hostages. He finally reaches the basement of Arkham, to find the Joker has already slaughtered all the hostages. Including a pregnant nurse. Joker, who already knows Bat's secret identity, taunts him that he has failed yet again to save the innocent. Just like he couldn't save his parents.

Batman, exhausted and wounded, attacks Joker, who's so frail by this time a few punches cause fatal damage. Unaware that Joker was live-streaming everything over hidden cameras. The cops finally storm the asylum and arrest Batman, who has had a complete mental and physical breakdown.

The last scene is Bruce, confined to Arkham, wearing a straitjacket in a padded cell. He keeps seeing the Joker's, "ghost"...

Bruce, "Stop...laughing at me..."
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Thats some pretty hardcore stuff

That would be more hardcore than what this movie offers
 
TheRuthlessOne said:
Thats some pretty hardcore stuff

That would be more hardcore than what this movie offers
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Yeah, no way Reeves and Mr Sparkles would make a movie like this. Even if DC had the balls to chance it.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Phoenix turned down roles as Doctor Strange and Bruce Banner because he didn't want to commit to long term, multi-movie contracts. Much like DDL, it's more about the art than the paycheque as far as he's concerned. They might be able to change his mind, but the usual method of persuading an actor to come back - drive increasingly larger trucks filled with money up to his house until he signs on the line that is dotted - probably won't work here. They'll have to promise him a role that challenges and inspires him.

Personally, I'd turn Reeve's Batman into an adaption of Arkham Asylum: a Serious House on Serious Earth. Joker has been locked up in Arkham for decades. He's dying, and decides to go out playing one last joke. He sets off a riot, takes hostages and demands Batman rescues them. Batman fights his way through his rogue's gallery, but can't find the hostages. He finally reaches the basement of Arkham, to find the Joker has already slaughtered all the hostages. Including a pregnant nurse. Joker, who already knows Bat's secret identity, taunts him that he has failed yet again to save the innocent. Just like he couldn't save his parents.

Batman, exhausted and wounded, attacks Joker, who's so frail by this time a few punches cause fatal damage. Unaware that Joker was live-streaming everything over hidden cameras. The cops finally storm the asylum and arrest Batman, who has had a complete mental and physical breakdown.

The last scene is Bruce, confined to Arkham, wearing a straitjacket in a padded cell. He keeps seeing the Joker's, "ghost"...

Bruce, "Stop...laughing at me..."
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Wouldn't Pheonix's Joker be like almost 70 by the time Batman is ~30 though?
 
KnightTemplar said:
Phoenix turned down roles as Doctor Strange and Bruce Banner because he didn't want to commit to long term, multi-movie contracts. Much like DDL, it's more about the art than the paycheque as far as he's concerned. They might be able to change his mind, but the usual method of persuading an actor to come back - drive increasingly larger trucks filled with money up to his house until he signs on the line that is dotted - probably won't work here. They'll have to promise him a role that challenges and inspires him.

Personally, I'd turn Reeve's Batman into an adaption of Arkham Asylum: a Serious House on Serious Earth. Joker has been locked up in Arkham for decades. He's dying, and decides to go out playing one last joke. He sets off a riot, takes hostages and demands Batman rescues them. Batman fights his way through his rogue's gallery, but can't find the hostages. He finally reaches the basement of Arkham, to find the Joker has already slaughtered all the hostages. Including a pregnant nurse. Joker, who already knows Bat's secret identity, taunts him that he has failed yet again to save the innocent. Just like he couldn't save his parents.

Batman, exhausted and wounded, attacks Joker, who's so frail by this time a few punches cause fatal damage. Unaware that Joker was live-streaming everything over hidden cameras. The cops finally storm the asylum and arrest Batman, who has had a complete mental and physical breakdown.

The last scene is Bruce, confined to Arkham, wearing a straitjacket in a padded cell. He keeps seeing the Joker's, "ghost"...

Bruce, "Stop...laughing at me..."
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i always thought dc should have gone ultra dark to fight mcus non seriousness and not try to copy them

(their comics are darker anyway)
 
IGotAHugePeckah said:
I'm not saying this is a horrible movie, I was right along for the ride for the most part. I just think it was mediocre at best and I'm genuinely curious as to what made this movie resonate with certain people so much.

I feel like I watched a decent movie and I have people telling me it's the modern day Citizen Kane, and I'm like "Wtf am I missing here"? Incidentally, it's now ranked #9 on IMDB, well above Citizen Kane and one spot above Good Bad and the Ugly! loool I just don't get it, and I don't think it's because I wasn't born 3 years earlier
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It has actual feelings and an Oscar worthy performance. There were no unrealistic obviously scripted quips. It was a real movie, in the style of real movies.
 
superpunch said:
Wouldn't Pheonix's Joker be like almost 70 by the time Batman is ~30 though?
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That's the point; he's dying anyway. He just wants to live long enough to burn Batman's soul and piss on the ashes...
 
For fucks sake people, the early rankings and shit on imdb, rotten tomatoes eventually even themselves out and become more realistic.

Watched it today. Thought it was great. Phoenix was brilliant, the cinematography was beautiful and the use of sound and music to set the tone both caused feelings of uneasiness and humor at time.

Only movie I've seen at the cinema this year. Was not disappointed.

It took a massive shit on all the fucking stupid super hero movies and laughed along the way.

But I guess cause it doesn't have a connected universe or Saturday morning cartoons it must not be as good as captain cape man: green screen extravaganza 4
 
Amerikuracana said:
There were no unrealistic obviously scripted quips.
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I though the last scene was unrealistic as fuck.
Murray finding out that this guy is the cold-blooded killer everyone has been looking for showed the same level of emotion as if Joker told him he likes his steak well done and with ketchup. And then suddenly he turns into Tom Brokaw and tries to do a serious, hard-hitting interview? Yuuuuck. And the "what do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandoned him" line?
Boooo. The ending stunk.
 
I've settled for an 8/10 like DLX.
It's a character study film and almost all it needs I Joaquin.
If the other pieces were better I would have rated higher.
 
well crafted as a film in of itself, some clever comic tie ins for joker character like the weird dancing with the kicks and the flower weeping in the opening scene after he got rekt by the squad, but way too many scenes of the dancing like wtf we get it he dances weird, overall I gave it a 7 because I felt like they could have made Joker more powerful by the end of the movie and I find the plot twist they used with the mental illness is cliche at this point, good movie and was entertaining with a few lulls
 
Saw it last night, really good. 8/10.

Nice take on the Joker. JP was amazing.

Only part I didnt like was the towards the end with Dr Niro. Kind of killed the realismr for me.
 
THEfightsAREfixed said:
well crafted as a film in of itself, some clever comic tie ins for joker character like the weird dancing with the kicks and the flower weeping in the opening scene after he got rekt by the squad, but way too many scenes of the dancing like wtf we get it he dances weird, overall I gave it a 7 because I felt like they could have made Joker more powerful by the end of the movie and I find the plot twist they used with the mental illness is cliche at this point, good movie and was entertaining with a few lulls
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I would have written in some kind of plan for the show. Joker hangs with highly powered foes because he ends up diabolical. I would have written in a stolen canister of nitrous from a dentist office that he gasses deniro with to make him laugh uncontrollably, or some tear gas stolen from police if their happened to be a riot going on. The end should have been a more intricate plan. As I've said repeatedly (sorry I've mucked up the thread a little) the movie flowed perfectly until the show.. Some people may even like that scene, but I would have had him really turn into the joker there. What he did still could have happened, but it should have been accompanied by something, and he should have laughed after doing it.

I do write, and that was the only scene I think I could have improved.
 
KnightTemplar said:
Phoenix turned down roles as Doctor Strange and Bruce Banner because he didn't want to commit to long term, multi-movie contracts. Much like DDL, it's more about the art than the paycheque as far as he's concerned. They might be able to change his mind, but the usual method of persuading an actor to come back - drive increasingly larger trucks filled with money up to his house until he signs on the line that is dotted - probably won't work here. They'll have to promise him a role that challenges and inspires him.

Personally, I'd turn Reeve's Batman into an adaption of Arkham Asylum: a Serious House on Serious Earth. Joker has been locked up in Arkham for decades. He's dying, and decides to go out playing one last joke. He sets off a riot, takes hostages and demands Batman rescues them. Batman fights his way through his rogue's gallery, but can't find the hostages. He finally reaches the basement of Arkham, to find the Joker has already slaughtered all the hostages. Including a pregnant nurse. Joker, who already knows Bat's secret identity, taunts him that he has failed yet again to save the innocent. Just like he couldn't save his parents.

Batman, exhausted and wounded, attacks Joker, who's so frail by this time a few punches cause fatal damage. Unaware that Joker was live-streaming everything over hidden cameras. The cops finally storm the asylum and arrest Batman, who has had a complete mental and physical breakdown.

The last scene is Bruce, confined to Arkham, wearing a straitjacket in a padded cell. He keeps seeing the Joker's, "ghost"...

Bruce, "Stop...laughing at me..."
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That's a bit... too... hardcore for me...

Pretty sure most Batman fans (casual movie goers) wouldn't like this too much either. There's something about a top tier superhero losing in the end that probably won't sit well with a lot of people.
 
SaiWa said:
That's a bit... too... hardcore for me...

Pretty sure most Batman fans (casual movie goers) wouldn't like this too much either. There's something about a top tier superhero losing in the end that probably won't sit well with a lot of people.
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Wrong. If done right, it would make for a better ending. There's generally going to be some redemption somewhere, but Joker actually changes everything.
 
Voted 10/10. I thought this movie was fantastic, as did my wife who also voted 10/10. Not gonna justify my vote, it is what it is.

I can see why people would vote lower and why some people wouldn't even like this movie. I understand that.
 
IGotAHugePeckah said:
I'm not saying this is a horrible movie, I was right along for the ride for the most part. I just think it was mediocre at best and I'm genuinely curious as to what made this movie resonate with certain people so much.

I feel like I watched a decent movie and I have people telling me it's the modern day Citizen Kane, and I'm like "Wtf am I missing here"? Incidentally, it's now ranked #9 on IMDB, well above Citizen Kane and one spot above Good Bad and the Ugly! loool I just don't get it, and I don't think it's because I wasn't born 3 years earlier
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It's hilarious how much this opinion and your avatar fit together.
 
SoberAwakening said:
Voted 10/10. I thought this movie was fantastic, as did my wife who also voted 10/10. Not gonna justify my vote, it is what it is.

I can see why people would vote lower and why some people wouldn't even like this movie. I understand that.
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Just out of curiosity, how old are you and your wife?
 
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