JOKER Origin Movie (First Poster Released)

[M3t4tr0n]

Honest question: what films has Scorsese produced (where he was not also the director) that gives you confidence that his involvement in this capacity is worth giving this project the benefit of the doubt? I was looking through his producer credits and they are largely for either documentaries or his own films. The remaining films seem to sit in the 5-6/10 range with no real quality standouts (that I noticed).

They said it would be a gritty type crime drama. Scorsese is good at those and I'm sure he will have influence on it in more ways than one as producer.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

I watched some of the first season of Gotham but stooped. Is it worth it? I love me some joker.

It depends. This is set in the Batman universe but they're radically changing the characters and introducing a lot of Batman villains that should not exist at that point in time, not to mention giving young Bruce Wayne an entirely new backstory that's unnecessary and cringey to watch. So if you can ignore those elements, the show is somewhat entertaining (begrudgingly).

There's no Joker in Gotham so far.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Brendon giving us movie news now.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

It depends. This is set in the Batman universe but they're radically changing the characters and introducing a lot of Batman villains that should not exist at that point in time, not to mention giving young Bruce Wayne an entirely new backstory that's unnecessary and cringey to watch. So if you can ignore those elements, the show is somewhat entertaining (begrudgingly).

There's no Joker in Gotham so far.

That's why I stopped watching it. It was getting from by. That sounds like a lot to get past just to see a pre-joker character.

 

[Fluffernutter]

My prediction: (Wikipedia + A Martin Scorsese recipe)

Jack, (Leo DiCaprio) quits his job as a lab assistant, becoming a stand-up comedian to support his pregnant wife. Unsuccessful, he agrees to help mobsters with a robbery of his compnay and dons the Red Hood. The heist goes awry; Jack leaps into a chemical vat to escape Batman, surfacing disfigured. This, combined with the earlier accidental death of his wife and unborn child, drives the comedian insane and he becomes the Joker.

The cops investigating the break in are currupt. Therefore, Jack sees no difference between "good guys" and "bad guys" and life is nothing more than chaos.

Therefore, the Joker is chaos.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

My prediction: (Wikipedia + A Martin Scorsese recipe)

Jack, (Leo DiCaprio) quits his job as a lab assistant, becoming a stand-up comedian to support his pregnant wife. Unsuccessful, he agrees to help mobsters with a robbery of his compnay and dons the Red Hood. The heist goes awry; Jack leaps into a chemical vat to escape Batman, surfacing disfigured. This, combined with the earlier accidental death of his wife and unborn child, drives the comedian insane and he becomes the Joker.

The cops investigating the break in are currupt. Therefore, Jack sees no difference between "good guys" and "bad guys" and life is nothing more than chaos.

Therefore, the Joker is chaos.

Basically, The Killing Joke with Leo as the star.

 

[Fluffernutter]

Basically, The Killing Joke with Leo as the star.

Yup

 

[chickenluver]

Honest question: what films has Scorsese produced (where he was not also the director) that gives you confidence that his involvement in this capacity is worth giving this project the benefit of the doubt?

Good question. As far as I can tell, here are the films he's produced that he did not direct (not listing documentaries, or executive producer credits).

The Grifters (1990)
Mad Dog and Glory (1993)
Clockers (1995)
The Hi-Lo Country (1998)
The Young Victoria (2009)
The Snowman (2017, unreleased)

I haven't seen any of these. They range from 6.1 to 7.3 on IMDB.

For me I'd say Scorsese being involved makes me slightly more enthusiastic about it. Most likely won't see it in theatres unless it gets raving reviews, but will probably watch it eventually unless it gets scathing reviews.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: September 1, 2017

Warner Bros. Wants Class, Cachet and Maybe Leonardo DiCaprio for JOKER Movie

Jared Leto Displeased with the Idea of Multiple Jokers

When news broke last week that Warner Bros. is developing a movie detailing the origin story of Batman nemesis The Joker , many were surprised to see the name Martin Scorsese listed among the producers.

After all, why would the 74-year old auteur filmmaker behind everything from Taxi Driver to Silence be interested in making the kind of studio franchise fare he has avoided throughout his career? And why would Warners executives, as brand managers of the extended DC Comics cinematic universe, want a legendarily controlling and free-spending talent involved in its marquee property?

The answer involves a plan worthy of The Joker himself. Sources say Warners will make an ambitious attempt to use Scorsese to bring Leonardo DiCaprio into the world of comic-book movies. Certainly, Scorsese’s involvement inThe Joker film, which The Hangover filmmaker Todd Phillips would direct, could elevate and diversify the studio's contributions to the genre, creating the potential to make awards-worthy films such as Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy.

There's no offer for DiCaprio, and sources say Scorsese's deal to produce isn't even done yet. The chances of landing DiCaprio could be slim to none. But the attempt in itself sends a signal to talent that Warners wants to hire serious filmmakers to make serious films.

This plan was not met with applause in all quarters: Insiders say Jared Leto, the actor who portrayed the Clown Prince of Crime in last summer's Suicide Squad and is slated to reprise the character not just for a sequel but for another spinoff movie (with DC villainess Harley Quinn), was caught off-guard by the plans. Leto is said to have made his displeasure with the notion of multiple Jokers known to his CAA agents, and rival agency WME has been using the concern to court him.

Warner Bros. launched its DC Extended Universe to compete with Marvel Studios with 2013’s Man of Steel. The movies have included the poorly reviewed Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad as well as this summer’s well-received Wonder Woman, which was seen as finally correcting a wobbly series. The movies have a through-line not just of stories but also actors, making them part of a superhero universe.

Now, however, Warners wants to branch off with stand-alone movies that are unconnected to that version of the DC world. The new movies will have non-traditional takes on the heroes and villains of DC, and hopefully, attract actors and filmmakers who don’t typically toil in the comic-book movie world. War for the Planet of the Apes director Matt Reeves is developing a Batman stand alone that, according to sources, will not star Ben Affleck, who plays the caped crusader in the DC Universe movies (Warners and Affleck have denied he is being replaced). The plan is to launch a separate label for these projects to distinguish them from the rest of the DC films. (Warners executives are acutely aware of the risks of audience confusion.)

ForJoker, which could be the initial entry for the label, sources say the studio and Phillips would want DiCaprio or another A-lister to play the character as a gritty crime boss in a Scorsese-esque Gotham underworld.

DiCaprio, 42, has become the most in-demand actor in Hollywood despite refusing to star in traditional franchise pictures. Instead, he has limited his collaborators to A-list directors of (generally) original screenplays, including James Cameron (Titanic), Christopher Nolan (Inception) and Alejandro G. Inarritu (The Revenant, for which he won his Oscar).

But his most frequent collaborator has been Scorsese. The duo has made five successful films together over two decades: The Aviator, Gangs of New York, The Departed, Shutter Island and The Wolf of Wall Street.

One conduit between Phillips and Scorsese/DiCaprio is actor Jonah Hill, who starred in Phillips’ War Dogs but worked with DiCaprio in Scorsese’s Wolf of Wall Street.

The Joker Movie: Warner Bros. Wants Class, Cachet and Maybe Leonardo DiCaprio

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

^ I don't know how credible this latest movie news is If it's not coming from Brendan Schaub.

 

[One MMA Fan]

 

[Tobago Jones]

Seriously though, don't do it Leo.

 

[One MMA Fan]

^ I don't know how credible this latest movie news is If it's not coming from Brendan Schaub.

This is how he gets us info from big studio honchos.

"So tell me all about the new Joker.. GA-DOOSH!"

 

[LilMountain]

This is how he gets us info from big studio honchos.

 

[TKing]

I like how they even acknowledge that the audience may be confused, they want to have a batch of movies and then another batch of unconnected movies along with unconnected tv series, such a mess. Sucks cause I like alot of the characters from the DC universe.

 

[TrueBias]

Id be fine with Leo. You know hed be amazing at it.

Fuck Leto.

 

[Eazy123]

I could see Scorcese doing something along the lines of Brian Azzarello's Joker graphic novel. Just keep Jared Leto way the fuck away from it.

 

[Kiyashin]

I'm probably the only one who thinks Scorsese attached is a TERRIBLE idea. There's no upside except he will bring terrific editors which actually is probably WB/DCs achilles heel. But his films always feature likeable characters doing unsavory things and they end up paying for those choices. It makes the viewer question why we like these characters and whether we want to aspire to be them. Joker is a psychopathic serial killer and nihilist. He is not supposed to be redeemable making him the ultimate foil for Batman. So maybe it'll be a good movie but Dragonlord is right: if it becomes a hit the cringe will be epic in whatever WB/DC follows it up with.

I think Joker origins were handled the best by Nolan in that it was a mystery. How he got those scars along with Alfred's story ultimately saying that some men just want to watch the world burn are quotes that have lasted along with Ledger's own performance in people's memories.

 

[Alex]

DC will never get it.

Casting different actors constantly in the same role kills the consistency of the product, and this compounds DC's "establishment problems." They have absolutely no clue how to establish characters.

Can you imagine if there was a different Iron Man in the trilogy than the one in the AVENGERS films, and then another actor playing Iron Man in a rebooted origin story?

One word: spiderman

 

[DM1982]

Update: September 1, 2017

Warner Bros. Wants Class, Cachet and Maybe Leonardo DiCaprio for JOKER Movie

Jared Leto Displeased with the Idea of Multiple Jokers

When news broke last week that Warner Bros. is developing a movie detailing the origin story of Batman nemesis The Joker , many were surprised to see the name Martin Scorsese listed among the producers.

After all, why would the 74-year old auteur filmmaker behind everything from Taxi Driver to Silence be interested in making the kind of studio franchise fare he has avoided throughout his career? And why would Warners executives, as brand managers of the extended DC Comics cinematic universe, want a legendarily controlling and free-spending talent involved in its marquee property?

The answer involves a plan worthy of The Joker himself. Sources say Warners will make an ambitious attempt to use Scorsese to bring Leonardo DiCaprio into the world of comic-book movies. Certainly, Scorsese’s involvement inThe Joker film, which The Hangover filmmaker Todd Phillips would direct, could elevate and diversify the studio's contributions to the genre, creating the potential to make awards-worthy films such as Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight trilogy.

There's no offer for DiCaprio, and sources say Scorsese's deal to produce isn't even done yet. The chances of landing DiCaprio could be slim to none. But the attempt in itself sends a signal to talent that Warners wants to hire serious filmmakers to make serious films.

This plan was not met with applause in all quarters: Insiders say Jared Leto, the actor who portrayed the Clown Prince of Crime in last summer's Suicide Squad and is slated to reprise the character not just for a sequel but for another spinoff movie (with DC villainess Harley Quinn), was caught off-guard by the plans. Leto is said to have made his displeasure with the notion of multiple Jokers known to his CAA agents, and rival agency WME has been using the concern to court him.

Warner Bros. launched its DC Extended Universe to compete with Marvel Studios with 2013’s Man of Steel. The movies have included the poorly reviewed Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad as well as this summer’s well-received Wonder Woman, which was seen as finally correcting a wobbly series. The movies have a through-line not just of stories but also actors, making them part of a superhero universe.

Now, however, Warners wants to branch off with stand-alone movies that are unconnected to that version of the DC world. The new movies will have non-traditional takes on the heroes and villains of DC, and hopefully, attract actors and filmmakers who don’t typically toil in the comic-book movie world. War for the Planet of the Apes director Matt Reeves is developing a Batman stand alone that, according to sources, will not star Ben Affleck, who plays the caped crusader in the DC Universe movies (Warners and Affleck have denied he is being replaced). The plan is to launch a separate label for these projects to distinguish them from the rest of the DC films. (Warners executives are acutely aware of the risks of audience confusion.)

ForJoker, which could be the initial entry for the label, sources say the studio and Phillips would want DiCaprio or another A-lister to play the character as a gritty crime boss in a Scorsese-esque Gotham underworld.

DiCaprio, 42, has become the most in-demand actor in Hollywood despite refusing to star in traditional franchise pictures. Instead, he has limited his collaborators to A-list directors of (generally) original screenplays, including James Cameron (Titanic), Christopher Nolan (Inception) and Alejandro G. Inarritu (The Revenant, for which he won his Oscar).

But his most frequent collaborator has been Scorsese. The duo has made five successful films together over two decades: The Aviator, Gangs of New York, The Departed, Shutter Island and The Wolf of Wall Street.

One conduit between Phillips and Scorsese/DiCaprio is actor Jonah Hill, who starred in Phillips’ War Dogs but worked with DiCaprio in Scorsese’s Wolf of Wall Street.

The Joker Movie: Warner Bros. Wants Class, Cachet and Maybe Leonardo DiCaprio

Seriously, Leo?

FFS.

Seriously, Hollywood should just stop pretending like they care and just cast either Leo or Johnny Depp in EVERYTHING like they really want to.

That little homo is the most over promoted actor Hollywood has ever had.

Let me guess this straight, that weird looking little man-child has the talent, chops and looks to play:


J Edgar Hoover

Howard Hughes

King Louis XIV

Pretty boys

Tough guys

Secret agents

And now The Joker

??????????????????

GTFO

Spoiler

End of Leo hate rant. For real, Leo is talented and obviously a big success but I do believe he is poorly cast often and only gets these amazing roles cos he's Hollywood's little Golden boy