Movies JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX (81% 2nd Weekend Drop with $7 Million; Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX, how would you rate it?


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They interjected musical bits into the movie to drive men away and appeal to women.

The first movie of Joker was a pro male movie, there was media hysteria about the being pro incel, causing violence. So the feminists got their hands and changed the franchise to their liking.

I honestly don't even see how the first one was pro male. The guy was a loser and at the end of that movie I didn't think he was cool.
 
Avid, deranged leftist? Impossible for them to be any other way, no?
You say this then follow up with two more posts getting political.

And idk where you guys get off playing dense. Since this film has been out people have been in the thread crying it’s woke or that the director wanted to give a fuck you to the original incel fan base of the first one. That poster wasn’t just pulling shit out of his ass, they’re actual conversations being had.
 
In his case I think the originals influence from Taxi Driver is probably a big factor and most likely the general idea it was getting overpraised.

I do think thats really the issue the film had, the liberial side wanted to hate it for that and even moreso it being taken up by the right and the right hated the idea it was a musical and even moreso that it unpicked their reading of the original. I mean the poll on this thread with how many just didnt watch it tells you the latter is true.

Honestly though I feel the director just used Hollywood handing him cart blache to make a film which simply is not very commercial at all, reality is thats often how good cinema gets made, basically tricking Hollywood execs into putting money behind something uncommercial, Blade Runner(and 2049), Babylon, etc. I'd probably need to see this again before I could say how good it is but I feel its at the very least an interesting film and definitely not worthy of the derision its getting.
Maybe this is why I enjoyed the film. I gravitate towards movies where you can tell the director got to do whatever the fuck they wanted (for the most part). Beau Is Afraid got trashed too, but that was Ari Aster on steroids, and what a fun fucking ride that was. I need more of this kind of freedom.
 
You say this then follow up with two more posts getting political.

And idk where you guys get off playing dense. Since this film has been out people have been in the thread crying it’s woke or that the director wanted to give a fuck you to the original incel fan base of the first one. That poster wasn’t just pulling shit out of his ass, they’re actual conversations being had.
The original act is still making the film political, not people commenting that they are tired of people using entertainment for political statements.

Nice try. But a fail.
 
You say this then follow up with two more posts getting political.

And idk where you guys get off playing dense. Since this film has been out people have been in the thread crying it’s woke or that the director wanted to give a fuck you to the original incel fan base of the first one. That poster wasn’t just pulling shit out of his ass, they’re actual conversations being had.

There's articles being written about that in major publications.

Are we allowed to discuss those? Let us know, boss.



 
There's articles being written about that in major publications.

Are we allowed to discuss those? Let us know, boss.



What? I’m not telling you what you can’t discuss, if anything I was saying it IS a topic to be discussed and idky people were acting like his comment was coming out of nowhere.

Y’all are weird. Just looking to argue about something.
 
Quentin Tarantino gives Joker 2 two thumbs up.

“I really, really liked it, really. A lot. Like, tremendously, and I went to see it expecting to be impressed by the filmmaking. But I thought it was going to be an arms-length, intellectual exercise that ultimately I wouldn’t think worked like a movie, but that I would appreciate it for what it is,” Tarantino told The Bret Easton Ellis Podcast on Tuesday.

“And I’m just nihilistic enough to kind of enjoy a movie that doesn’t quite work as a movie. That’s like a big, giant mess to some degree. And I didn’t find it an intellectual exercise. I really got caught up into it. I really liked the musical sequences. I got really caught up. I thought the more banal the songs were, the better they were,” he argued when talking about a recent screening at the multiplex for the Joker sequel.

Tarantino was especially impressed by director Phillips as a Hollywood insurgent. “He’s saying f— you to all of them. He’s saying f— you to the movie audience. He’s saying f— you to Hollywood. He’s saying f— you to anybody who owns any stock at DC and Warner Brothers […] And Todd Phillips is the Joker. Un film de Joker, all right, is what it is. He is the Joker,” he told the podcast.

 
It was hot garbage. I feel for the people who spent $100+ on movie tickets, soda, popcorn and candy to leave in 20 minutes.
 
Quentin Tarantino gives Joker 2 two thumbs up.

“I really, really liked it, really. A lot. Like, tremendously, and I went to see it expecting to be impressed by the filmmaking. But I thought it was going to be an arms-length, intellectual exercise that ultimately I wouldn’t think worked like a movie, but that I would appreciate it for what it is,” Tarantino told The Bret Easton Ellis Podcast on Tuesday.

“And I’m just nihilistic enough to kind of enjoy a movie that doesn’t quite work as a movie. That’s like a big, giant mess to some degree. And I didn’t find it an intellectual exercise. I really got caught up into it. I really liked the musical sequences. I got really caught up. I thought the more banal the songs were, the better they were,” he argued when talking about a recent screening at the multiplex for the Joker sequel.

Tarantino was especially impressed by director Phillips as a Hollywood insurgent. “He’s saying f— you to all of them. He’s saying f— you to the movie audience. He’s saying f— you to Hollywood. He’s saying f— you to anybody who owns any stock at DC and Warner Brothers […] And Todd Phillips is the Joker. Un film de Joker, all right, is what it is. He is the Joker,” he told the podcast.


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Heath Ledger Joker was so out of this world good that it is impossible to try and outdo Heath ledgers legendary performance. No matter who plays the joker, it can never match the intensity of Ledger Joker. It was the closest thing to perfection.

Tough act to follow and also even in the cartoons, Joker showed expertise in chemistry as well as using various forms of weapons and decent brawling skills. Arthur exhibits none of the traits of any joker. I just assume he is supposed to be a proto-Joker.
 
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