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Johnson was willing to fight Dillashaw (2015), Cruz (2016), and Garbrandt (2017)

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  1. acannxr

    acannxr Brown Belt

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    People only started calling him a duck after they fell for Dana White's smear campaign, because Johnson has been open to these fights for the last three years:

    February 8th, 2015 | Johnson vs. Dillashaw

    "Mighty Mouse" said he ran into Dillashaw in Las Vegas over the weekend during UFC 183 fight week and told him the plot.

    "I was like, 'Hey, I told everybody that I'll fight you,'" Johnson said. "He was like, 'You did?' I said, 'Yes and I told everybody we gotta get paid. I said $2 million.' He goes, 'Eff, yeah. I'm down with that.'"

    Johnson (21-2-1) conceded that it wouldn't take quite that much. But close.

    "I guess not," he said. "Maybe one million if Dana wants to come out with that."
    https://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/...-down-for-superfight-with-t-j-dillashaw-for-2

    September 14th, 2016 | Johnson vs. Cruz

    In an interview with Australian podcast ‘Submission Radio’, Johnson revealed that he feels unappreciated for all he has done for the sport. The fighter made it clear that the amount of money it would take for him and Dominick Cruz to engage in a super fight between reigning champions would be two million US-dollars.

    “I think two million dollar is fair”, Johnson said. “I think it’s two million. Obviously we don’t have the same fanbase, you know, we’re not prom king or prince or duke or whatever like Conor McGregor and Nate Diaz are. But I’ll tell you what, our skillset and what we’ve done in the past as mixed martial artists in this sport – shit, Dominick Cruz has defended his belt more times than Conor McGregor has and Conor McGregor is more active than Dominick Cruz. So that right there, just what we bring to the table as athletes and what we’ve done in this sport, I think that deserves two million dollars, especially since the UFC got bought for 4.2 billion dollars. WME-IMG has the cash to front this fight.”
    https://agfight.com.br/en/demetriou...nts-two-million-for-super-fight-against-cruz/

    April 12th, 2017 | Johnson vs. Garbrandt

    For his part, “Mighty Mouse” says he’ll accept that challenge. Or he could go up to 135 pounds. Either way, he’s not going to shy away from the callout.

    “If he wants to come down and the UFC wants to give him an immediate title shot, that’s what they do nowadays, you get an immediate title shot,” Johnson said Monday. “If I go up and challenge him for his belt, if the negotiations go well, then yeah, it could happen.”
    https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/4/...n-says-hed-fight-cody-garbrandt-at-135-or-125

    Johnson's reservations about fighting Dillashaw back in 2017 centered around the fight becoming a non-title fight on what otherwise would've been his record breaking title defense due to Dillashaw having never competed at Flyweight before. Additionally, Johnson was denied PPV points for the fight.

    If Dana White came out and agreed to Johnson's request for a $1-2 million total purse, and Johnson turned down the fight, I'd be the first person calling him a duck, but given that there's a history for Johnson's requirements for these fights spanning back three years then I'm not falling for White's lies.
     
  2. Verace

    Verace Silver Belt

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    I guarante if he had actually persued these fights, they would have been made.

    Why wait for the UFC?

    If he had put himself out there in the media campaining for these fights. Called the guys out after a win, or even on twitter...
    You know... created hype for the fights and everything...

    Then maybe the UFC would have dished out the money he wanted. You just need to show the UFC people have interest in a fight these days and they will do it. (which wouldnt even be really that hard... by now everybody kinda wants to see this already)

    But no, he prefers to sit around and be like paint drying.
     
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  3. Toco

    Toco Steel Belt

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    oh the MM fanboy. "willing" as in pay me a fuckload of money and I will fight. he just doesn't deserve all this money at all. the ufc wouuld be losing money with that
     
  4. ThatGuy7698

    ThatGuy7698 Horse meat = best meat

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    I'm a MM fan, but he's not a big enough draw to be demanding that much money. The more and more I'm hearing these stories, the less and less I believe in MM.
     
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  5. VinceArch

    VinceArch Venom in the veins.

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    They could have easily thrown 1-2 mill at him but they didn't. I don't see how this is DJ's fault.
     
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  6. acannxr

    acannxr Brown Belt

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    I think that has more to do with his personality, it's the same reason he doesn't trash talk people (though his retorts can be hilarious).

    What buyrate do you think Johnson vs. Dillashaw would do?
     
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    Why not ask for 5 million? Just as likely to get it.
     
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  8. Verace

    Verace Silver Belt

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    Well... thats fine.

    Clearly he is happy to keep doing what he is doing... So i dont think he can come and complain later.

    His personality is himself... So putting the blame on it is pretty much blaming him. I mean... who else is responsible for his personality? His parents?

    Theres no way around it. Sometimes you need to do things outside of your confort zone in order to reach a particular goal. (i know, easier said then done, but we have never even seen him try)

    Like i said... he seems ok with not doing so.
     
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  9. Toco

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    also I believe this is some form of gracie esque ducking. you ask for an absurd amount of money to fight someone, but they're not gonna give you such sum obviously, therefore the fight won't happen, which was what you want since the start of the negotiation process. you successfully ducked a fighter, but to the fans and the media you truly wanted to fight, but they just couldn't pay you the money you deserved, so instead of him being the duck, the ufc are the ones that are being cheap and not letting you fight said fighter. employed by rickson gracie masterfully against sakuraba. he never ducked, they just didn't want to give him the money that he deserved
     
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  10. Only Here for Attachments

    Only Here for Attachments Free from yellow thanks to my state's congress

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    But he never did so
     
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  11. VinceArch

    VinceArch Venom in the veins.

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    Isn't DJ only asking for a couple million at the very most? That isn't an insane amount.
     
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    The UFC is a business, they would do that deal if they thought they could profit from it.

    Almost seems like MM keeps putting himself in a cart before the horse situation.
     
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    Mouse would never sniff a million dollars to show payday gtfo. Would be surprised if they pay him above 200k.
     
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    Sadly for every UFC Fight ....you need Hype.

    Is not enough to be a good fighter with credentials, you need something to call attention which equals selling tickets......it could be something crazy like Colby or just like every other typical fighter " smooth callouts" on twitter or anywhere.....

    Its's so sad that now everybody thinks they are worth millions.....The true is CONNOR REALLY BROKE THE GAME.... everybody now is a business man / women......
     
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    Mighty Mouse was willing... sure. Funny how prior to this he talked about fighting in his division, setting a record etc.

    Dillinshaw wanted to fight him at 125, Mighty Mouse ducked hard, saying Dillinshaw couldn't make the weight etc. Didn't he just come out and state he signed an agreement to fight Dillinshaw and it fell through? When did that happen exactly?

    Mighty Mouse and cyborg need to get together with Woodley and compare notes.;;;
     
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    acannxr Brown Belt

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    He's asking for $1-2 million total pay.

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    If he wanted to fight one of them, he would have by now.
     
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    He overpriced himself out of those fights, but i do remember him asking 1M to fight TJ back then, and that was probably at 135, recently he just didnt really wanted to fight him at his own weight, simply because there was the chance of it being a non title fight and him getting beat for "nothing".
     
  19. acannxr

    acannxr Brown Belt

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    Because Dillashaw has never made that weight and even in college had only ever gone as low as 133 lbs when he was a teenager.

    He agreed to the Dillashaw fight, got injured, and once he was healed up the UFC decided not to pursue it; my bet is Dillashaw getting shafted because he didn't agree to fight Garbrandt on short notice (and yes, Dana White is petty enough to do that).
     
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    So asking for 1 million to fight a champion from the division above, while being ranked the #1 p4p fighter in the world with the most consecutive title defenses is out of the question; but beating Al Iaquinta to get the LW title, not having even fought the #1 and #2 fighters in the division and asking for 10 million is ok?
     
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