Joe Schilling sucker punching drunk guy

GordonMMARamsey said:
Sherdog is a strange place. It's totally cool for you to shout stuff at people, and then lunge at them attempting to scare and intimidate them. But if you defend yourself you're a monster.
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Strange place indeed. Some dorky guy from an office is out at some happy hour dancing after work, a dickless piece of shit mma fighter tries to alpha him by shoving him out of the way, then turns around and goes back to knock the guy out for speaking up for himself, and there are actually people here defending a pro fighter sucker punching some office nerd with his hands by his side for daring to object to sub 70 IQ Joe schilling shoving him out of the way.
 
People who think that dude was "standing up for himself" after he got nudged to the side have never stood up for themselves a day in their life for anything and then small insignificant things become big because oh poor me im everyones door mat ima flip out. There was nothing to stand up to
 
Shoden said:
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"Aggressively moves"......Joe just nudge him, once the drunk guy felt the nudge he moved out of the way, it wasn't a push at all....perhaps the drunk guy sudden movement was because he was uncoordinated(he is drunk), thus he moved suddenly but it wasn't a push at all.......This was the normal nudge you get anytime you are in a crowded place and people need to walk somewhere, is literally normal <BC1>



However yelling out "hey" to the guy who just nudge you, and then doing a bully flinch flex <{cum@me}>is aggressive tho.
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Ok Joe.
 
GordonMMARamsey said:
I would say the drunk guy is not worth defending. He's clearly acting like and ass, running into people, and the getting upset when HE runs into someone and they nudge him out of the way. Then he instigates an altercation.
He ran into Joe
He shouted at Joe
When Joe turned around HE did the bro flex to make Joe flinch.


Joe punching him in the face was a direct result of the drunk guys actions. Stop defending drunk retards who think they get to act tough after they run into someone.
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I agree that drunky should likely have been asked to leave before this could have happened, but we know that isn't how bars work. Joe was looking for a reason to throw hands. Hair trigger, completely irresponsible.

Your angle is all off bro.
 
Paolo Delutis said:
By no means is Joe a nice guy....this has been proven...


And im not saying it should of gone down like that...

Im just not surprised, and self defense cases have huge grey areas that alot of people dont understand...

Turning around to face someone face to face after they yell Hey! With ur hand open isnt aggressive its responding .. Had joe turned and hand clinched fists and just threw blows from there thats assault...but he turned the guy did a punching/ whats up lung thing ( tough guy move) and was essentially egging on an altercation and got one...

Joe doesnt have to wait to be hit to respond ...

Ofcourse he didnt have to throw a combo either..

But again being mean isnt against the law
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He doesn't need to be hit to respond, it's more about responding to the level of threat. Which, again, ironically, is one of the thing Schilling has been preaching about (when it comes to the police).

A guy trying to make you flinch doesn't quite warrant throwing a combo on his jaw, because it is, at the end of the day, a non-physical attack. You could argue that a push, or trying to restrain him is warranted, to prevent further escalation. But when you start throwing bombs like that, that's basically the final point of confrontation.

You can basically just hope for two things there, that A. you don't injure the other person or B. you injure or even kill the person, but you're fully justified in doing so.

Scenario A seems to be true in Schilling's case, which is why he probably gets away with it. The little dude is probably too embarrassed to make a big deal of it. But make no mistake about it, if the guy got damaged, let alone killed, Joe would be in big trouble. Little dude trying to make him flinch would certainly not be seen as a good enough excuse to put this guy away in the manner that he did.
 
Pliny Pete said:
Stop being over dramatic
The drunk guy clearly made a move of aggression towards Schilling and quickly found out that he fucked with the wrong bull
Nothing about that is a sucker punch, its just a sucker getting punched
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Not really... Dude got pushed and then said something and got fucking knocked out.
Even if he said something Joe disagreed with you can't just blast people in the face, especially if you are a fighter. Are you for real?
It's not like the other guy was a thug on the street making a move on Schilling.
Duche fucking move and I hope he gets to pay the price. People are way too aggresive these days and there can't be a situation where you can't say a word because people will start punching each other instantly in the mouth.

Edit:// on further examination it looks like the other guy faked a punch, or whatever he did that looked like that. In this case Joe could say he was defending himself. He was obviously looking for a fight and being a professional fighter he should have known better as he could have killed the guy, but at least he had a reason. I thought he had none so I give 10% honor back to him.
 
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kflo said:
again, you're just deflecting from the fact that the guy wasn't a threat to joe in any way. it's too hard for you to acknowledge that.
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How does Joe know the guy is not a professional fighter? Drunk guy at a bar wearing a loose fitting shirt. Pro fighters get out of shape between fights constantly.
Is this guy scary? That's 9-1-1 BJ Penn before he fought Machida. Joe is a bit chinny these days, that if the drunk guy cracks him on the chin, knocks him out and stops on his head? What then man?

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Well, at the very least he's gonna sued for everything he owns most likely. You just can't do this stuff anymore. Plus the guy was a tiny little manlet, very disappointed in Joe...
 
TheGreatA said:
He doesn't need to be hit to respond, it's more about responding to the level of threat. Which, again, ironically, is one of the thing Schilling has been preaching about (when it comes to the police).

A guy trying to make you flinch doesn't quite warrant throwing a combo on his jaw, because it is, at the end of the day, a non-physical attack. You could argue that a push, or trying to restrain him is warranted, to prevent further escalation. But when you start throwing bombs like that, that's basically the final point of confrontation.

You can basically just hope for two things there, that A. you don't injure the other person or B. you injure or even kill the person, but you're fully justified in doing so.

Scenario A seems to be true in Schilling's case, which is why he probably gets away with it. The little dude is probably too embarrassed to make a big deal of it. But make no mistake about it, if the guy got damaged, let alone killed, he would be in big trouble.
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I posted this earlier.
This is Joes take on the situation:

""Self defense is apparently not what this country is about anymore ‍♂️ dont trip I got the video love you guys thanks for the concern and support during my life threatening experience."

The dude has lost his mind..
 
After watching it closer, it does look like the guy was about to do sum

 
nostradumbass said:
Strange place indeed. Some dorky guy from an office is out at some happy hour dancing after work, a dickless piece of shit mma fighter tries to alpha him by shoving him out of the way, then turns around and goes back to knock the guy out for speaking up for himself, and there are actually people here defending a pro fighter sucker punching some office nerd with his hands by his side for daring to object to sub 70 IQ Joe schilling shoving him out of the way.
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Show me this magical and powerful shove that needed defending from the office worker lol..


All i saw was the common hand on shoulder/arm move we all use when passing a blocked or crowded area..

I guess i miss the part where schilling threw the man and then when that wasnt enough the evil man came back and hit him...


Your perspective on the situation is broken bud
 
The guy that got knocked out had no idea Joe was a threat. Weird how that works, the loser never realized what could have happened. What if that guy flinches at Joe pulls a gun out and shoots him in the face?


Then we'd all be saying "Damn Joe should have odne something when the guy acted aggressive. But the stupid fuck tried to be a bully to the wrong person and it backfired.
 
It's kinda hard to tell because the dude is behind Schilling but it does look like he was about to throw a punch, or fake throw one to make him flinch as people have mentioned, if he did Schilling should be in the right to defend himself. But on the other hand Schilling could have probably diffused the situation in a better way, he could have killed the guy accidently.

Unfortunate incident no matter how you look at it.
 
wow. joe schiliing just destroyed his reputation right there. and straight up should be in jail. the, "drunk guy" who didn't look drunk to me, had no idea he was blocking schilling's way. schilling should have said excuse me, so the guy could move for him. regardless of what the other guy said, no way did it warrant being knocked out. he should really be in jail.
 
meh.
On one side we have Bisping who got punched in the face and laughed because the guy posed no threat.
On the other side, this obvious knockout of a drunk that posed no threat.

It is obvious that society should meet somewhere in the middle. IMO Bisping had reason to hit that guy, Joe should have laughed and kept walking.
somewhere Karma evens out, I guess.
 
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