that guy flinching at joe doesn't meet the standard for self defense in any jurisdiction. joe wasn't in danger.You can shoot someone in self defense in some places and a gun is way more lethal then Brock or Francis
that guy flinching at joe doesn't meet the standard for self defense in any jurisdiction. joe wasn't in danger.You can shoot someone in self defense in some places and a gun is way more lethal then Brock or Francis
The problem isn't the drunk guy running into people and then getting aggressive when they get pushed away.
The problem is the guy that reacts to someone acting aggressive.
Escalation of force, he ran into Joe, Joe moved him. He shouted at Joe, Joe turned around, hands relaxed at his side, the guy lunged at Joe, Joe punched him in the face.
Stop defending drunk retards who pretend to be tough at the bar.

Ahhhh now I get it...you're the guy on the floor in the video and now your feelings are hurt.So if a guy pushes you, doesn't say anything, walks off like a dick you'll just take it? OK buddy lol
I think any normal guy is going to stick up for himself.
Ok.Joe's going to jail buddeh, accept it.![]()
I think Joe handled the attacker fine without need of a firearmThis is why you should carry a gun.
If two people are willing to fight then it should be done honorably. However if it’s an unprovoked attack like this one then shooting the attacker till he’s a corpse is justified.
my view:
Drunk guy steps and blocks path
Drunk guy gets moved out the way
Drunk guy starts talking shit
Drunk guy see's big guy turn around
Drunk guy tries 2 make big guy flinch
Drunk guy goes night night
seems fair to me
But what if the guy flinching an Ngannou is actually a polar bear with a laser attached to his head? Then is he a threat?of course it matters. again, at some point, there is no threat, and it's not self defense. it's just aggression.
you flinching at ngannou isn't going to be intimidating.
again, you're just deflecting from the fact that the guy wasn't a threat to joe in any way. it's too hard for you to acknowledge that.But what if the guy flinching an Ngannou is actually a polar bear with a laser attached to his head? Then is he a threat?
The drunk guy running into people, shouting at them, and then acting aggressive doesn't have manners. I'm not saying Joe has any, dont get me wrong. But you're defending the drunk guy running into and shouting at people. Those are not manners. He started it, Joe ended it.You got me. No, you just have Joe's dong in your mouth and never learned manners clearly.
Dude lit him up cause he's a dick and he wanted to. I have no idea how this is so hard for you to grasp. He did the wrong thing. Its pretty black and white.