Joe Schilling sucker punching drunk guy

Since last I checked the narrative has seemingly switched to the other guy being a serial pest and everyone at the bar is backing Joe up.

Is that legit or did Joe go full sherdog and threaten to fill the room with uppercuts?
The guy has been arrested before, all the patrons said he was the instigator and he did not give police any detail on what lead to him getting punched. Do the math
 
If anybody does not understand that when you out drunk you be aware of your surroundings and bring a non knucklehead friend then after reading this you get what your dumb ass gets. People confuse reality talk with being a fake tough guy. You soft sumbitches. There are people in this world waiting to put your bitch ass to sleep over you bumping into them drunk. You so weak you point at me then run tell when I clown you. Who took the bite out you boy lol? Literally that’s what happened. So when you bump a mufucka YOU APOLOGIZE. Just be aware of your surroundings. Message from the bad guy

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Looks like Justin balboa changed his mind and will press charges. Anyway the clip is definitive evidence of what really happened and even the patrons of the bar wil hae to resess their testimony now that there is a clip ...
The guy has an arrest record, all patrons agreed he was the instigator prior to the punch incident, he gave police no details on what lead to the punch or how he was acting that night , manager said he regularly causes problems. This will be an easy win for Joe
 
The guy has an arrest record, all patrons agreed he was the instigator prior to the punch incident, he gave police no details on what lead to the punch or how he was acting that night , manager said he regularly causes problems. This will be an easy win for Joe

Yes, good guy Joe pulled up the guy's arrest record before clocking him.

God's work.
 
Not talking morally, and this is for comparison only as I assume US law varies (and from State to State), the UK/English law runs along these lines. I've been involved in one of these situations.

You can strike first and proportionally if you can convince the authorities you believed you were at risk of harm.
This can be covered by the other person trying to throw fists etc, moving into a fight ready stance or even issuing verbal threats of harm.

You don't have to walk away either.

Some one flexing on you for no reason could be construed as a threat, especially if the person was a lot bigger and taller than you.
This would be decided by the Police, then CPS from your statement. I would be very wary of using this one to keep myself out of court.

Things are complicated if you instigated the event. Like pushing some one or squaring up because they called you a name, especially after you pushed them.
Being a trained fighter is also relevant to the Police and CPS.

Keep a cool head and weigh up if its really worth it. Most people know when there is real risk of harm.
 
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Yes, good guy Joe pulled up the guy's arrest record before clocking him.

God's work.
You don't think this guy was being talked about prior to this ? People there clearly knew him , I'm sure Joe got the info that he's a regular problem there. There's also a pic of him posing with his fists up like a fighter. In what world is yelling at someone and then flexing on them not instigating a conflict? He also said Joe was 6"5 270 lol what a beta manlet
 
You don't think this guy was being talked about prior to this ? People there clearly knew him , I'm sure Joe got the info that he's a regular problem there. There's also a pic of him posing with his fists up like a fighter. In what world is yelling at someone and then flexing on them not instigating a conflict? He also said Joe was 6"5 270 lol what a beta manlet

It doesn't matter what people were saying about him, you can't clock a guy legally because people were saying stuff about him. Joe initiated contact, Joe moved into his personal space when the guy shouted at him, Joe then unloaded on him when he made a slight flex.

It's going to be interesting when this goes to court, there'll be a lot of people eating crow either way, but I'm confident he gets convicted.
 
It doesn't matter what people were saying about him, you can't clock a guy legally because people were saying stuff about him. Joe initiated contact, Joe moved into his personal space when the guy shouted at him, Joe then unloaded on him when he made a slight flex.

It's going to be interesting when this goes to court, there'll be a lot of people eating crow either way, but I'm confident he gets convicted.
It's a loud bar he moved to hear what he said and the guy immediately made an aggressive move and you can't see his right hand which may be balled. All patrons will back this and say the other guy was being an asshole and instigated the conclusion throughout the night. His prior arrest may also be brought up if it's related to fighting or assault. Joe will win
 
It's a loud bar he moved to hear what he said and the guy immediately made an aggressive move and you can't see his right hand which may be balled. All patrons will back this and say the other guy was being an asshole and instigated the conclusion throughout the night. Joe will win

He's pretty much admitted it was pre-mediated on social media by saying that he'd had issues with the guy all night, he's then made the ridiculous excuse that he was in fear of his life.

If it was just the video then perhaps he could make the argument that he wasn't looking for conflict and just reacted to the flex to protect himself, but unfortunately he's an idiot and has made it obvious that he went into that situation hoping for that outcome.

He also seemingly posted the video on social media himself trying to make himself out as a badass which won't help.

Dude has dug his own grave.
 
He's pretty much admitted it was pre-mediated on social media by saying that he'd had issues with the guy all night, he's then made the ridiculous excuse that he was in fear of his life.

If it was just the video then perhaps he could make the argument that he wasn't looking for conflict and just reacted to the flex to protect himself, but unfortunately he's an idiot and has made it obvious that he went into that situation hoping for that outcome.

He also seemingly posted the video on social media himself trying to make himself out as a badass which won't help.

Dude has dug his own grave.
All irrelevant when 20 people say the former inmate wanted to fight and lunged at him with a balled fist and zero people say joe was the problem or instigator
 
All irrelevant when 20 people say the other guy wanted to fight and lunged at him with a balled fist and zero people say joe was the problem or instigator

Not really, Joe has provided most of the evidence himself and it will be used against him.
 
Not really, Joe has provided most of the evidence himself and it will be used against him.
So we're using social media as evidence? So then maybe Joe will use the words of 20+ professional trained fighters saying his response to the aggressive action was warranted and they would react the same due to their training
 
So we're using social media as evidence? So then maybe Joe will use the words of 20+ professional trained fighters saying his response to the aggressive action was warranted and they would react the same due to their training

How is that going to help? A judge isn't going to say "oh, assaulting people is okay if other trained fighters would have done the same thing"
 
How is that going to help? A judge isn't going to say "oh, assaulting people is okay if other trained fighters would have done the same thing"
Then it doesn't work saying he's a trained fighter and should know a flex vs a feint when other actual trained fighters disagree. Joe wins
 
Then it doesn't work saying he's a trained fighter and should know a flex vs a feint when other actual trained fighters disagree. Joe wins

I don't think that argument is going to come up at all, the argument is going to be that it was pre-meditated and Joe wanted conflict, which he's said himself in his social media posts.
 
So much BS has been posted about what would be the lead up to this KO. I for one see this in no way justifiable. Joe straight up assaulted that guy and should face the consequences.
 
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