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Joe Rogan: fighters are lucky Lebron plays basketball

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Khaiser said:
It’s very telling that the debate shifted from Lebron to NFL - as if football athleticism can only be demonstrated by Ronaldo being faster than the entire US sporting world.

Next we’ll get some amazing insight into him being slower than bolt, or not as strong as Martins Licis.
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I think they are trolling at this point or just biased like I have never seen
 
Can Ronaldo and LeBron both be world class athletes without campaigning for one to be infallibly better than the other? Not gonna lie, it's been fun reading the back and forth with both sides making good points, but y'all clearly aren't going to agree or concede (because there really isn't a correct answer).
 
Zoolander said:
Gonna take 20mph to your grave eh? Not only did I bring the NFL into the conversation, but I connected it to both soccer and basketball in a way that should have helped you when comparing the speed of Lebron and Ronaldo. I also provided the opinion of a professional sprinter which has been conveniently ignored. As long as we're clear that Ronaldo is slow compared to the athletes in the major US sport leagues, which you are given your response, I'm good and see no need to educate you further. Have a nice day :)
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Lol you are in the top 5 fastest NFL players if you can run at 21,5 miles hahahahahahahah. Ronaldo at 33 in the world cup got to 21,1 miles/h. Thats 0,4 miles that he is missing on the top 5 fastest nfl players. Those 5 players are 23, 25, 26, 28 and 28 years old. Ronaldo was 33 when he clocked the 21,1 miles. And he did this in a sport where you are supposed to have stamina!!! Not some sport that consists of 5 sec of play and 5 minutes of rest lol. If Ronaldo trained like a NFL player, and he was in his prime, they could not touch him. 33 years old!!! And still can hang with the fastest guys from an anaerobic sport. Ronaldo is the Nr.1 athlete in the world, and those nfl guys cant hold a candle to him.

https://www.sportscasting.com/the-n...u-think-and-its-the-fastest-speed-in-3-years/
Actually, Ronaldo got to 21,5 miles this year. So he is Top 5 NFL players in terms of speed. At 35, turning 36 in 2 months. Ronaldo is so much more athletic than those nfl players, its not even funny.There are 1696 NFL athletes. Ronaldo is among the top 0,29% fastest of them. And thats at 36 years old in a sport that requires stamina. Checkmate.
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Khaiser said:
Thats great mate, but it doesn’t really have anything to do with the post you quoted.

Nobody here should reasonably expect Ronaldo to be amongst the fastest players in the NFL. It is a sport that has participants who are there, almost exclusively, to run fast. Football players on the other hand are involved in every single phase of play, and do so over the course of 90 minutes of action, as opposed to 11 minutes of action across a 3 hour game.
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i'm sorry, but running fast is not what they are there for. most track and field athletes are not capable of just walking onto a football field and making a team. of course, it's an asset. and yes, soccer requires much more of an investment in developing very sport specific skills that have to be honed from a very young age.
 
YourBoss said:
Lol you are in the top 5 fastest NFL players if you can run at 21,5 miles hahahahahahahah. Ronaldo at 33 in the world cup got to 21,1 miles/h. Thats 0,4 miles that he is missing on the top 5 fastest nfl players. Those 5 players are 23, 25, 26, 28 and 28 years old. Ronaldo was 34 when he clocked the 21,1 miles. And he did this in a sport where you are supposed to have stamina!!! Not some sport that consists of 5 sec of play and 5 minutes of rest lol. If Ronaldo trained like an NFL player, and he was in his prime, they could not touch him. 33 years old!!! And still can hang with the fastest guys from an anaerobic sport. Ronaldo is the Nr.1 athlete in the world, and those nfl guys cant hold a candle to him.

https://www.sportscasting.com/the-n...u-think-and-its-the-fastest-speed-in-3-years/
Actually, Ronaldo got to 21,5 miles this year. So he is Top 5 NFL players in terms of speed. At 35, turning 36 in 2 months. Ronaldo is so much more athletic than those nfl players, its not even funny.
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where did you get 21.5???

here's 2018:
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2018/REG/all

here's 2019:
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2019/REG/all

again, these are just plays where the ball carrier was free enough on the field to reach a top speed. there are many players who can reach that speed. wearing football gear. carrying a ball.
 
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DespicablePeep said:
If you fabricate numbers you can come to any conclusion
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why do you think ESPN sport science is just fabricating numbers on multiple occasions but ronaldo's speed is a given as accurate?
 
kflo said:
where did you get 21.5???

here's 2018:
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2018/REG/all

here's 2019:
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/top-plays/fastest-ball-carriers/2019/REG/all

again, these are just plays where the ball carrier was free enough on the field to reach a top speed. there are many players who can reach that speed. wearing football gear. carrying a ball.
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https://fcbinside.de/2020/09/14/sch...davies-ist-der-schnellste-fussballer-in-2020/
https://technosports.co.in/2020/07/08/top-10-fastest-football-players-in-the-world-in-2020/
 
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kflo said:
yup. those guys are fast too.

here's 6'4 230 lb dk metcalf reaching 22.64 mph in a game. he doesn't make the other lists because he's not carrying the ball. his fastest time with the ball is 21.66.

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Yup i have seen him. He is a monster. runs like a horse.
 
mirko>anyone said:
Can Ronaldo and LeBron both be world class athletes without campaigning for one to be infallibly better than the other? Not gonna lie, it's been fun reading the back and forth with both sides making good points, but y'all clearly aren't going to agree or concede (because there really isn't a correct answer).
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i don't know why it's so controversial though to take a position that lebron's athletic characteristics in a 6'8 250 body is just a little more unique and singular than ronaldo's overall athletic characteristics in a 6'1 185 lb body. that's not taking away from how freaky overall ronaldo is as an athlete and more importantly a soccer player. maybe i'm wrong on that but that's my main position on this. but agree with your post as well. it's alot of silly banter and digging in on minor points.
 
kflo said:
i'm sorry, but running fast is not what they are there for. most track and field athletes are not capable of just walking onto a football field and making a team. of course, it's an asset. and yes, soccer requires much more of an investment in developing very sport specific skills that have to be honed from a very young age.
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Running fast is very much a large part of exactly what they’re there for. Simply because a track athlete couldn’t walk straight in doesn’t mean that that NFL players aren’t doing far more specific roles that the average footballer, who has to contribute to every phase of play, over the course of 90 minutes, and play 50/60+ games a season.
 
kflo said:
i don't know why it's so controversial though to take a position that lebron's athletic characteristics in a 6'8 250 body is just a little more unique and singular than ronaldo's overall athletic characteristics in a 6'1 185 lb body. that's not taking away from how freaky overall ronaldo is as an athlete and more importantly a soccer player. maybe i'm wrong on that but that's my main position on this. but agree with your post as well. it's alot of silly banter and digging in on minor points.
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I think this is part of the issue though - Americans are often not even using the correct definition of athleticism.

Height has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
Khaiser said:
I think this is part of the issue though - Americans are often not even using the correct definition of athleticism.

Height has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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I didn’t say it did. I simply said his athleticism coupled with his size. That’s what makes him unique. Not that his athleticism on its own is unique.
 
Al Stone said:
Respectfully I think you could have kept that to yourself bud. I dont think it is a US thing but a simple (Im not an idiot thing) to choose the bigger stronger man that by 18 had the world wanting him on their pro team. Lebron is an absolute freak amongst people who are considered freaks. You want to talk nationality my humble opinion is your country must drink rusty water
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What? I’m struggling to make that remotely coherent?

What does ‘the world wanting him on their pro team’ even mean? He plays in a US centric sport and was apparently quite highly rated in another, even more US-centric sport.

Lad, the world had absolutely no clue who Lebron James was at 18 <45>

Ronaldo meanwhile had just signed for the biggest club in England for a then world record fee for a teenager.
 
kflo said:
I didn’t say it did. I simply said his athleticism coupled with his size. That’s what makes him unique. Not that his athleticism on its own is unique.
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Oh right. Well, the crux of the issue for a long time has been athleticism.

If that was simply you sitting that a 6’7 bloke is more unusual than a 6’1 bloke, then I agree with you.
 
Zoolander said:
Can you even read? Did Ronaldo not record the fastest time at the World Cup?

Nor is it a top NFL speed test, you moron. What the fuck is wrong with you? You love to use the MPH only as long as it supports your argument. Funny how that works. Who's really biased here?

Glad you asked. Remember the Lebron chase down block video? Remember the football player that Lebron was compared to that he accelerated faster than? Do you know what he has? Legitimate track speed! He ran track at the University of Texas with a 100M PR of 10.3 (compare that to the 11.6 estimation for Ronaldo lol). Get over your delusion bro. Ronaldo doesn't have real speed.

Let me get this straight. American athletes train specifically for their speed because it plays a major role in their career trajectory, but soccer players don't and that's supposed to support you argument that soccer players are fast? You realize how dumb that is, right? What do you have to say about NFL players running a full 2 MPH faster than Ronaldo while wearing helmets, pads, holding a ball, and outweighing him by 20+ pounds? Got some more excuses?

Damn you don't even know what a fact is! Why are you Ronaldo apologists so quick to tell other people to get out and experience more? You go around making shit up about people you don't know. What kind of loser behavior is that? That whole last paragraph is another projection by you.
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And as I keep telling you, you dribbling simpleton, no - he recorded the fastest time in a SINGLE ROUND OF FIXTURES. Do you even understand the format of the tournament? <45>

Who even mentioned an “NFL speed test” you utter, utter, jizz gobbling spastic?
In what way am I not supporting the use of mph? I absolutely back it, you daft fuck <45>

One of the most bizarre rants I’ve ever seen on here in all honesty. Literally no cunt on this forum has suggested that there are no NFL players faster than Ronaldo - not one single person - are here you are (having given up on Lebron) not trying to argue a point that nobody is contesting.

Again, much like the utter disbelief you demonstrated about Ronaldo being able to run faster than Lebron, you’re now here defending the entire US sporting world against a non-existent attack <45>
 
Khaiser said:
Oh right. Well, the crux of the issue for a long time has been athleticism.

If that was simply you sitting that a 6’7 bloke is more unusual than a 6’1 bloke, then I agree with you.
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I mean yes. Athleticism is still a big part of the equation. But it is the combination that sets him apart. From most.
 
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