Media Joe Rogan Blown Away By Ciryl Gane “Changed The Standard of HW Striking”

[Joss]

1) The bounce is nothing special. almost any HW worth his salt can bounce like that. It's the movement that the bounce is part of and the ability to sustain it for 25 minutes is what's impressive.

2) Fedor doesn't bounce like that, he stalks. Also, it's not like bouncing suddenly makes you a better fighter. Anyone can do any sort of style that suits themselves, it's when they master it to an extremely high levels whats impressive. Fedor's stalking and blitz is impressive, Stipe's measured pace is impressive, Cain's relentless forward momentum is impressive. They're all impressive because they managed to make it consistently work at the highest levels.

don't concentrate on the bouncing only, whether they stalked or did whatever, they moved pretty quickly in and out and whatnot. i would not say gane is faster than prime fedor for sure.

 

[Th3Sav4ge]

One more win and Rogan could say he is the best ever. Is normal.
It's true, though, that Gane is bringing some highly needed change in the HW division.
Maybe he will raise the level of other guys trying to beat him.

"iv never seen anyone in any weight division move like him"

 

[Jitter]

I think Gane has every advantage over Francis except raw power. Lewis had a couple deep shots on Gane and Gane bullied him easily in the clinch. The only question is whether Francis can land a shot or not

 

[Natural Order]

Cyril Alexander is for real ladies and gentlemen!!!

 

[listrahtes]

Already sucking the dick of another HW champ. Record time too.

At least Rogan didnt cry and tell that Gane is a 10

Prime Arlovski + Aleks E were both very fast and fluid heavyweight strikers.

And a lot of others. Even a mediocre fighter like Gilbert Yvel had quite the fluid and dangerous stand up game. Gane is nothing special just todays HWs are shitty to no end that even someone like Lewis can be in the Top10.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

Its certainly in trouble in the upper divisions and a big part of the reason for that is that the UFC falls back on a hardcore fanbase such as yourself that really knows nothing but the hype thats been pulped into it, that will gladly accepted that Derrick Lewis is an evolved fighter.

I never have accepted Derrick Lewis as an evolved fighter. I do accept him though as a HW that is ready, willing, and able to pass a USADA test.

Something none of the juiced up old-timers who fought in PRIDE would have ever been able to do.

Without decades of PED abuse Fedors body would likely look similar to Derrick Lewis and I understand that is hard for a fanboy like yourself to come to terms with.

Igor Vovchanchyn bounced similiarly.
Fedor Emelianenko also.

Neither of these plodding fighters ever moved remotely similar nor would either man have been able to pass a USADA test at any point in their respective careers.

I dont think Igor off PEDs would have been big enough to even make it as a LW in the UFC in 2021.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I never have accepted Derrick Lewis as an evolved fighter. I do accept him though as a HW that is ready, willing, and able to pass a USADA test.

Something none of the juiced up old-timers who fought in PRIDE would have ever been able to do.

Without decades of PED abuse Fedors body would likely look similar to Derrick Lewis and I understand that is hard for a fanboy like yourself to come to terms with..

More trollish fanboy nonsense, drones such as yourself are helpingt o kill the sport, not that I suspect you really care as you'll probably find some new carny brand to follow that empties your pockets or subject to troll for attension for on the net.

 

[listrahtes]

Fans that idolize these juiced up ghosts do not understand that in athletics the players of today are supposed to be superior to those that came before them.

They maybe supposed to be superior but evolution is not a straight uphill path but a circular motion at best. Its all about opportunity to develop high level stand up fighters and these opportunities at HW are less today then back 20 years ago.
The UFC proclaimed several times the arriving of the new much superior guard only that even half zombie ex pride fighters continued to beat them down like nothing for years to follow. Now the pride guys are too old and HW in the UFC looks like a shitfest with talentfree hacks like
Lewis proclaimed top5.

The death of K1 brought an end to high level development of HW strikers. Sadly. But Gane is good and can capture the title as with Stipe being way out of prime now there are no more competent stand up fighters in their prime left.

 

[listrahtes]

I dont think Igor off PEDs would have been big enough to even make it as a LW in the UFC in 2021.

<Lmaoo><Lmaoo> Ok that is funny. I met Vovchanchyn once after his career was over. The guy is one big ball of muscle with hands like a tractor. Very cool guy btw. Steroids have little to do with that but I guess its no use discussing that with you.

It especially doesnt make any sense to talk down on fighters back then regarding ped abuse when its just as rampant AND much more sophisticated nowdays. Its a well known fact that close to all big mma gyms in the US have a system for organised PED abuse at place with ATT at the forefront closely followed by Jackson Wink...etc. Its much easier nowadays for good fighters to abuse with maximum benefit as they have doctors, fall guys, laywers...etc all in place.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

More trollish fanboy nonsense, drones such as yourself are helpingt o kill the sport, not that I suspect you really care as you'll probably find some new carny brand to follow that empties your pockets or subject to troll for attension for on the net.

I understand it is hard for you to accept, but in a years time it will be commonly accepted that Gane is the HW GOAT.

Not Fedor, who today is commonly accepted as a juiced up fighter who declined to compete against the best in the UFC.

I know change is hard, but Gane is the real deal, and by choosing to deny and downplay his absurd talent you are simply denying reality.

 

[AtaTheCrow]

Fuck outta here you pride nut huggers are delusional none of those guys would’ve been signed by Glory kickboxing and expected to beat Rico and all the other top HW strikers in the world. Not even cro cop, reem or schilt were the same level as gane has shown come back to reality when any of those guys have thrown spinning back elbows in the clinch, inside crescent kicks like a MW and using their MT skills like they’re buakaw or Saenchi @6”5” 250 pounds yet fights like a LW. Highly doubt any of those guys have thrown this combination in the gym let alone against the 2nd biggest hitter in the HW divison.

Come one, don't be joe rogan... Overeem and Shilt were K1-HW Champions, Grand Prix winners. Sure they didn't move like Gane, but they still are/were better Kickboxers.

 

[DaRivv20]

Joe Rogan is very fond of muscular black men

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Joe Rogan is very fond of muscular black men

More fond of whatever hype the UFC is telling him to push at any one moment.

I mean Gane and Ngannou are interesting HW talents its true but I think big fish swimming in a very small pool of HW talent these days.

Honestly besides this fight between them I don't think theres a single match at in the HW I'm greatly interested in anymore, maybe Gane/Stipe but I'm guessing the latter may well be on the way out.

 

[EXOICHO]

To be fair Gane did look fantastic. Black beast looked like some dude that had never been in a fight in his life trying to hit him.

 

[Dirty Frank]

He gets too excited at times but he's got a point here.

 

[ninja boot]

Yeah I’m sure your podcast is better

i'm smart enough to know that to do it daily my content would be watered down and due to ethics i opted to turn down a 100 million dollar contract with spotify to do what i really love... pointing out bag licking, fan boys like yourself.

 

[kalabula]

A half dozen pages of ppl shitting on JR for being a super fan of the same damn sport that were super fans of.

 

[gaffbyknees2]

Did he cry again ?

 

[Miokink026]

Really I think the UFC should have been pickout out kickboxing talent for the last decade far more than they have, that someone like Spong basically was told "sorry not interested" is pretty daming.

The issue I suspect is the UFC policy is not to take much risk, they will pay fairly well for prooven talent but they won't often pay much more potential talent, fighters established in another sport shifting to MMA.

I think that hurts the largest weight classes more as men that size are rarer, you can't bank on many of them with potential shifting to MMA themselves.

Honestly

don't concentrate on the bouncing only, whether they stalked or did whatever, they moved pretty quickly in and out and whatnot. i would not say gane is faster than prime fedor for sure.

Gotta get back to my minecraft, village needs me but I'll just say that they've got different uses for speed.

Fedor's combinations and blitz speed is faster than Gane while Gane's single shots and footwork is faster. Can't be sure until I verify it but from what I've seen that seems to be the case.

 

[Superior]

He can bounce around all he wants, Ngannou starches him.