Crime Joe pardons Hunter

[Satur9]

Were you lying then or are you lying now?

Yes

 

[Sara]

so "people are saying"

More like people said. I don’t take kindly to being accused of making it up, I literally get my news from here, I watch sports and tv shows at home, mostly streaming so I don’t get interrupted by breaking news or commercials

 

[idrankyourbeer]

More like people said. I don’t take kindly to being accused of making it up, I literally get my news from here, I watch sports and tv shows at home, mostly streaming so I don’t get interrupted by breaking news or commercials

well you can feel free to dig up some quotes because i don't know what you are talking about or who is saying any of it but i know i don't remember seeing anything like that around here. people were talking shit about a 10/11 year old barron trump? seems like a bit of a stretch here.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

It depends on the truth behind the situation.

I suspect Hunter and Joe were involved in illegal money laundering and that Hunter was also involved in other crimes. I don't know what the nature of those crimes are, nor am I even certain that they exist.

But if they do exist and there was money laundering and such going on, then in the context of our current political situation, I would not pardon my son for crimes he really did commit even if that could eventually implicate myself along with him... Frankly, concerns about my own self would be secondary to my sons anyway


We are in a battle against the most despicable villain we've ever seen in the presidency in Trump. Both parties are corrupted but the Republicans are far far worse under Trump. Because of this, the human desire to protect my son from consequences that he himself created by doing illegal things would have to come second to the good of the country and the example set for integrity and rule of law.

So if it's true that there was money laundering and other possibly serious crimes, then I would not pardon my son and I wouldn't just quietly refuse to pardon him either. I would address the nation and say that I'm not pardoning my son because of the dire treacherous times that we live in and because of who Trump is and because the only thing we have is truth and honesty and integrity against a villain who has no bottom.

On the other hand, if Hunter was trying to levy influence because of his father but his father was not complicit and nothing really illegal was done and there was no serious crime then the consideration that Trump is a vengeful villain and might attack my son for years and years under a new administration that may well completely shed the rule of law and become fascistic then I might pardoning my son under those circumstances.

It would be a very difficult position to be in because of your love for your child but also knowing that we are in existentially dangerous times,
the good of the country would have to come before my own or my child's good.

I tend to think there was money laundering from both Hunter and Biden but I don't know that to be a fact.

 

[Andy Capp]

How do you know there’s no evidence?

The years of investigations that didn't turn up any says there doesn't appear to be any.

 

[UberHere]

Not in this thread. It's dozens of pages of dems defending it

At least two are not defending.

@terrapin and @Jack V Savage have both condemned it

Probably more I may have missed

Quite frankly, of all the crap this admin has done, this is the least of my concerns. I’m not gonna get mad over an aging father pardoning his son

 

[Scerpi]

Lol @ how the same people who boasted that Biden was so great for pledging not to pardon his son now all have these long explanations for why it's actually a good thing that he did.

Every time lmao

Were you lying then or are you lying now?

And now these media types are adovacating for preempted pardons for other parties.... lol



Why? Because being investigated by the Feds is expensive... even for trumped up charges

Yeah, no shit assholes

 

[Sara]

The years of investigations that didn't turn up any says there doesn't appear to be any.

Andy why would he plead guilty with no evidence or need a blanket pardon?

 

[UberHere]

And now these media types are adovacating for preempted pardons for other parties.... lol



Why? Because being investigated by the Feds is expensive... even for trumped up charges

Yeah, no shit assholes

Funny how tunes change once the shoe drops on the other foot

 

[SKYNET]

Funny how tunes change once the shoe drops on the other foot

As long as they can keep the deranged sheep in line, they can excuse themselves of doing the exact same shit they have a problem with Trump doing. Pretty neat trick.

Reminds me of bible thumpers sending all their money to evangelists in exchange for salvation in the next life

 

[Andy Capp]

Andy why would he plead guilty with no evidence or need a blanket pardon?

I'm not talking about the tax and gun charges, for which he was already convicted, and neither are you, right? Otherwise you wouldn't be talking about "blanket" pardons. So what did he plead guilty to besides that? What evidence was ever uncovered of any other wrongdoing? The so-called Burisma Investigation turned up jack shit.

So, again, isn't it wrong to arbitrarily investigate someone to hunt for evidence before there is any probable cause to believe a crime has been committed? Yes or no?

 

[Sara]

well you can feel free to dig up some quotes because i don't know what you are talking about or who is saying any of it but i know i don't remember seeing anything like that around here. people were talking shit about a 10/11 year old barron trump? seems like a bit of a stretch

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I mean just read these threads that mention him, I’m not great at the search function.

Some justify Barron being attacked/made fun of cause Chelsea Clinton was made fun of…..she literally would not condone that

 

[jimjamjammer]

Funny how tunes change once the shoe drops on the other foot

Isn't it. Hard to believe how they can't see the parallels. Or maybe they choose not to.

 

[Sara]

I'm not talking about the tax and gun charges, for which he was already convicted, and neither are you, right? Otherwise you wouldn't be talking about "blanket" pardons. So what did he plead guilty to besides that? What evidence was ever uncovered of any other wrongdoing? The so-called Burisma Investigation turned up jack shit.

So, again, isn't it wrong to arbitrarily investigate someone to hunt for evidence before there is any probable cause to believe a crime has been committed? Yes or no?

Yes I am, it’s not arbitrary or he wouldn’t have been given the pardon.

 

[Andy Capp]

Isn't it. Hard to believe how they can't see the parallels. Or maybe they choose not to.

Hard to believe how you can't see the false equivalence.

 

[Islam Imamate]

You unrealistically want me to go back 8ish years

I don’t keep creepy files on posters in case I get to use it against them later, it could have been in the general chat thread or a kids in cages thread or even a thread about Peter fondas tweet.


Not that it matters y’all will brush it off with a duh he apologized for wishing that on a child.

I don't think its unrealistic to expect people to substantiate their claims. When I make those types of accusations I try to back it up with reference to at least one or two posts instead of lazily making accusation I know I have no intention of ever substantiating. On top of that even if you felt it was asking too much you could just concede you can't substantiate your claim instead of getting defensive and accuse me of defending Hunter when I did nothing of the sort.

The interesting thing is in using the search function I found out you like to use this deflection occasionally and yet despite claiming a bunch of people said those horrible things about Baron you can only produce one guy, Peter Fonda, who apologized shortly afterwards. Its a complete nothingburger and yet you want to blame the entire left for the one statement made by Peter Fonda and I don't think that's fair at all.

 

[Andy Capp]

Yes I am, it’s not arbitrary or he wouldn’t have been given the pardon.

SMH... he was guilty of the tax and gun charges. He was pardoned for them. This so-called blanket pardon is for things he hasn't been charged for yet right? And why do you suppose he hasn't been charged with any other crimes despite years of investigations?


Anyway, I suppose you also assume a person is guilty of something if they use their constitutional right to plead the 5th amendment, do you? Ditto, if a person is arrested and immediately demands a lawyer without giving any further statements?

 

[Sara]

I don't think its unrealistic to expect people to substantiate their claims. When I make those types of accusations I try to back it up with reference to at least one or two posts instead of lazily making accusation I know I have no intention of ever substantiating. On top of that even if you felt it was asking too much you could just concede you can't substantiate your claim instead of getting defensive and accuse me of defending Hunter when I did nothing of the sort.

The interesting thing is in using the search function I found out you like to use this deflection occasionally and yet despite claiming a bunch of people said those horrible things about Baron you can only produce one guy, Peter Fonda, who apologized shortly afterwards. Its a complete nothingburger and yet you want to blame the entire left for the one statement made by Peter Fonda and I don't think that's fair at all.

Keep reading then you can edit this post

 

[Islam Imamate]

Keep reading then you can edit this post

Keep reading what? Is there another post of your ITT you want to point me to?

 

[Sara]

SMH... he was guilty of the tax and gun charges. He was pardoned for them. This so-called blanket pardon is for things he hasn't been charged for yet right? And why do you suppose he hasn't been charged with any other crimes despite years of investigations?


Anyway, I suppose you also assume a person is guilty of something if they use their constitutional right to plead the 5th amendment, do you? Ditto, if a person is arrested and immediately demands a lawyer without giving any further statements?

No I actually don’t, I think that unless trump appeals and wins he’s still guilty, I think innocent till proven guilty, but I don’t believe in a father pardoning his son for a ten year period blanket means he’s innocent