Crime Joe pardons Hunter

[Jack V Savage]

@Islam Imamate @BFoe @filthybliss @terrapin @brothir

This is what we’re dealing with here.

Am I being unreasonable? @BFoe offered a very plausible explanation. Why is it that Jack cannot?

Cannot what? You asked what he said, and I quoted the whole statement. It's very short. A normal-functioning adult can read it in literally less than 10 seconds.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I said as much earlier to a poster.... so why still was my question to him

That's the period that Republicans have been focusing on. I dunno. I don't see any real mystery here.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

What will the experts on "The view" say about this...

 

[terrapin]

Well, but if we're being honest, my position is very reasonable and yours is not. Which is why you ducked the issues and pivoted to your usual personal attacks.

I don't consider Democrats "we," and I definitely don't agree with Biden's pardon. But I think this illustrates why it's hard for normal people to respect you guys. You can't just say "Biden pardoning his son is an abuse of power." Reality is just always too boring so you have to add in some crazy conspiracy theory on top of it. As I said, even House Republicans have given up on that one, but you're still pushing it. Why?

But it's exactly my position that biden's pardon is an abuse of power...

It's also completely reasonable to believe that since so much money exchanged hands, there was also POSSIBLY quid pro quo.

You argue from absurdity pretending there is no possibility of that and then limit that argument to a narrow set of parameters we know/think didn't happen and ignore all the possible things we don't know about that could have happened seeing us how so much money changed hands.

You take that possible position and try to make it a necessary one. And you try to pretend that entertaining the possibility that there was quid pro quo is conspiracy related, which is just a kind of castigation of people's character that partisan people use to discredit instead of actually argue. You throw out that accusation a lot btw. But it has no place here.

Trying to make the possible necessary is a common philosophical error and you make it a lot.

 

[Cajun]

That's the period that Republicans have been focusing on. I dunno. I don't see any real mystery here.

If there is nothing then why raise questions? Just my thought. Statute of limitations for drugs, guns, hookers would not stand after 10 years unless that's not correct.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Cannot what? You asked what he said, and I quoted the whole statement. It's very short. A normal-functioning adult can read it in literally less than 10 seconds.

Do you enjoy continuing to look like a buffoon?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

hunter promised that was the first time he went on a coke fueled hooker banging black-out weekend.

sounds like the average weekend for a sherdogger. if you ain't blowing lines off of a hookers ass than you ain't living life.

it's all fair game until someone puts a blue hat on and buys a gun. suddenly you'll get all these gun-toting flag-fucking 2'nd amendment advocates clutching their pearls.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

To bad the DNC embraced the corruption and darkness of joe biden, whilst rejecting the love and glorious light of bernie sanders


Choices

 

[terrapin]

@Islam Imamate @BFoe @filthybliss @terrapin @brothir

This is what we’re dealing with here.

Am I being unreasonable? @BFoe offered a very plausible explanation. Why is it that Jack cannot?

Sometimes I disagree with you but sometimes you just happen to be right man. And in the case of Jack, I just think more Democrats on this site should have the courage to call him out when he's being disingenuous and practicing sophistry.

There are so many podcasts, interviews and commentaries castigating the left for being so militantly rigid in their absolute demand of loyalty to the party and their meanness and pushiness and bullying and snobbery when anyone ever calls into question anything on the left.

Well they're right when they criticize the left for this kind of b*******.

The last time anyone on the left had the courage to go against Jack on here was with Trotsky and there was a massive meltdown on this site over it.


Anyone who can say it is a certainty that there was no corruption with Hunter Biden and all that money from the Ukrainian is being disingenuous. It is only reasonable to argue that you think nothing happened, but when that possibility is pushed into a certainty it becomes disingenuous argument.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I, once again, am asking if you have any idea why it’s backdated since Biden didn’t express his reasoning.

I think that's your reading comprehension issue again. I really think you'd benefit from some additional education (or do you have a caregiver?).

Why are you unwilling to offer your opinion or idea as to why it’s backdated?

Is being rude just a part of who you are?

 

[Jack V Savage]

But it's exactly my position that biden's pardon is an abusive power...

That's my position. But hacks are trying to revive the dead Burisma story. As I said, reality is too boring. Has to be some big spy thriller.

I notice you keep refusing to address my points. Republicans have already dropped that one. There's no way Biden would have been able to get away with anything like that this long. Etc.

If there is nothing then why raise questions? Just my thought. Statute of limitations for drugs, guns, hookers would not stand after 10 years unless that's not correct.

I don't think it does raise questions generally. And CTers and partisans will raise unreasonable questions no matter what.

Do you enjoy continuing to look like a buffoon?

I think you have a learning disability and what you think looks like a buffoon, normal people don't.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Why are you unwilling to offer your opinion or idea as to why it’s backdated?

Is being rude just a part of who you are?

My dude, you're the last person on this site with any grounds to complain about answering questions. You never do. And you calling someone else rude is wild. Your whole thing here is just trying to cyberbully everyone into becoming Republicans.

 

[terrapin]

That's my position. But hacks are trying to revive the dead Burisma story. As I said, reality is too boring. Has to be some big spy thriller.

I notice you keep refusing to address my points. Republicans have already dropped that one. There's no way Biden would have been able to get away with anything like that this long. Etc.

I don't think it does raise questions generally. And CTers and partisans will raise unreasonable questions no matter what.

I think you have a learning disability and what you think looks like a buffoon, normal people don't.

You can think that nothing corrupt happened. You just can't pretend you are certain about it and then castigate others for being of a different mind.

You try to pretend that your possible take is a necessary one and then argue arrogantly from that place.

You do this a lot.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

I'm more upset that this "breaking news" interrupted by TV last night. I thought war had broken out or someone dropped a nuke, but no...

 

[Rob Battisti]

Sometimes I disagree with you but sometimes you just happen to be right man. And in the case of Jack, I just think more Democrats on this site should have the courage to call him out when he's being disingenuous and practicing sophistry.

There are so many podcasts, interviews and commentaries castigating the left for being so militantly rigid in their absolute demand of loyalty to the party and their meanness and pushiness and bullying and snobbery when anyone ever calls into question anything on the left.

Well they're right when they criticize the left for this kind of b*******.

The last time anyone on the left had the courage to go against Jack on here was with Trotsky and there was a massive meltdown on this site over it.


Anyone who can say it is a certainty that there was no corruption with Hunter Biden and all that money from the Ukrainian is being disingenuous. It is only reasonable to argue that you think nothing happened, but when that possibility is pushed into a certainty it becomes disingenuous argument.

I don’t even think he’s arguing from being a democrat right now. It’s just a display of arrogance and sophistry.

Imagine taking the position that it’s impossible to even entertain the idea that Hunter receiving that position, of which he was entirely unqualified for, could have been for access to Joe. Let’s not forget his painting career as well.

The very idea that these things could be intermixed with access to powerful people is impossible to Jack. As if this shit doesn’t happen all the time.

 

[Rob Battisti]

My dude, you're the last person on this site with any grounds to complain about answering questions. You never do. And you calling someone else rude is wild. Your whole thing here is just trying to cyberbully everyone into becoming Republicans.

Please — go on. You’re making yourself out to be a pillar of intellectual excellence in this thread. Your integrity and capacity for clear and honest thought is on display.

 

[terrapin]

I don’t even think he’s arguing from being a democrat right now. It’s just a display of arrogance and sophistry.

Imagine taking the position that it’s impossible to even entertain the idea that Hunter receiving that position, of which he was entirely unqualified for, could have been for access to Joe. Let’s not forget his painting career as well.

The very idea that these things could be intermixed with access to powerful people is impossible to Jack. As if this shit doesn’t happen all the time.

It's hard to understand what motivates him. I have genuinely often thought that he might be being paid for it...

But then I think why pay someone to argue on such a s***** little site that doesn't really matter...

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don’t even think he’s arguing from being a democrat right now. It’s just a display of arrogance and sophistry.

Imagine taking the position that it’s impossible to even entertain the idea that Hunter receiving that position, of which he was entirely unqualified for, could have been for access to Joe. Let’s not forget his painting career as well.

The very idea that these things could be intermixed with access to powerful people is impossible to Jack. As if this shit doesn’t happen all the time.

Dude, if you actually think I'm getting something wrong, why do you feel compelled to lie about my position?

 

[Jacket time]

What will the experts on "The view" say about this...

 

[Cajun]

I don't think it does raise questions generally. And CTers and partisans will raise unreasonable questions no matter whwhat.

When was the last blanket pardon given for that long term? It does raise questions which is why some are raising them.