Crime Joe pardons Hunter

[KOByFootStomp]

I kind of think that part of the reason Biden did this is to destroy the democrat party that forced him to step down and installed Kamala as the candidate. This decision destroys the credibility of any democrat that parroted the lies that they believe no one is above the law or that Joe wouldn't pardon Hunter because he believes in the law. The democrat party will now be looked at as a complete joke by everyone except for the most brainwashed cultists. Anyone who votes for the democrats will confirm they don't have a shred of integrity, this was a great move by Biden for the Republican party.

 

[44nutman]

I really hope Joe Rogan, asmondgold, and other influencers put this on blast

Rogan is too busy puppeting Russian Talking points. He needs to ask Putin first if he can put Hunter on blast.

 

[UberHere]

I kind of think that part of the reason Biden did this is to destroy the democrat party that forced him to step down and installed Kamala as the candidate. This decision destroys the credibility of any democrat that parroted the lies that they believe no one is above the law or that Joe wouldn't pardon Hunter because he believes in the law. The democrat party will now be looked at as a complete joke by everyone except for the most brainwashed cultists. Anyone who votes for the democrats will confirm they don't have a shred of integrity, this was a great move by Biden for the Republican party.

It should have already been looked at as a complete joke before this.

 

[BFoe]

So, it’s not that he’s pardoning crimes, but getting in front of investigations? That’s very egregious.

I don’t blame him for pardoning his kid. He’s in the 9th inning of life. Making a blanket 10 year unconditional pardoning is the issue.

It’s a shame as Biden has done a 180 on his position of integrity. This damages the dems a lot and like @terrapin said, it brings everyone down a notch.

Well tbf we just had a Spec Counsel investigation into all things Hunter Biden, and nothing remotely Burisma-related was found that could be charged. Just a tax offense and gun charge. But yes, in addition to pardoning those, this would preclude Hunter from being prosecuted for any federal crime committed during that period if some actual evidence came out.

And sure: in principle, I don’t like it. And if we wanted to pass an amendment to limit pardon power, I’m very open to it.

But ever since the election, I’m keep getting told that we should be learning lessons about what went wrong. What I have learned from the winners of that election is: we don’t care about criminality when one of “our guys” does it, corruption is fine, cronyism is fine, nepotism is certainly ok, any decision that “owns” the other side is a good one, and any decision that results in “tears” on the other side is the best one.
Right?

We’ve seen Trump pardon family, pardon cronies with financial crimes in exchange for them staying silent about his own crimes, and pardon people with these same gun charges that Hunter had. No one cared. I honestly think what upsets them the most about this pardon is us not “going high” anymore and doing the same shit to them that they’ve been doing to us for ages.

 

[KOByFootStomp]

It should have already been looked at as a complete joke before this.

It was by anyone with an above room temp IQ. Now I think even the dumbest of democrat cultists will realize how much of a joke they are.

 

[terrapin]

In terms of whether this will even be so much as a tiny blip on the political radar in 12 months I think its significance is grossly overblown.

I suggest we agree to disagree, with all due respect.

Well with all due respect Andy, you're completely wrong about that. Every moral failure on our part is a point for Trump and a point for that side and a loss for us.

You guys think we are fighting about policy and political parties and you're wrong. The fight that is going on in the United States right now is a fight between the status quo and a much more degraded form of democracy and populace and Trump is winning.

To be confused about what the fight is really about is to fight the wrong battles and loose.

 

[terrapin]

How did that help though? Trump is back in power because the dems dragged their feet for too long. Playing nice and taking the high road got us to where we are today. I wish they grew a spine but it’s far too late now. Trump is going to demolish the government and it doesn’t matter whether Hunter got pardoned or not.

If you think we lost because we're playing nice you have lost the plot...

People want real change. They want serious real change because they feel ripped off by the government and by corporations and they are right to feel that.

We're losing because we're giving them more of the same while Trump is promising and lying about real change.

The only person that can beat Trump is somebody who really believes in genuine change and a party that wakes up and supports that person.

It amazes me that anybody can see Trump for the dastardly villain that he is and then argue that we should be more like him....

 

[Jack V Savage]

Yes we know it's not illegal for him to serve on a board. That isn't the question obviously. The question is why did they give him so much money for a job he had no qualifications for whatsoever.

Probably because they hoped to have pull with his dad. But did they actually have any? Definitely not. Their main ask was to keep Shoykin in office, which they didn't get.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Then why go back to '14 blanket? Just asking questions. Not that I have done much research.

The "then" doesn't make sense. What does one have to do with the other?

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

Joe Pardons Hunter sounds like a good name for a Rock Cover Band.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I’m sorry you’re so angry. Since the statement didn’t express any reasoning, I was asking if there was something I was missing. I am sorry if this deeply offended you.

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[ChosenOne]

A level of less integrity. I thought that was obvious.

How do you 'bring them down to that level' when they have always already been down there?

How is Biden pardoning family any different then when Trump, Carter and Clinton did it prior?

If you want something to be 'obvious' then make a case for it.

 

[terrapin]

Probably because they hoped to have pull with his dad. But did they actually have any? Definitely not. Their main ask was to keep Shoykin in office, which they didn't get.

This Is the kind of lie that a partisan person tells. There could have been money exchanging hands, there could have been all kinds of information exchanging hands and they clearly wanted something and you nor I know what that was.

I have never argued that they got what they were looking for, but to argue that it's definitely true that they didn't is to tell a kind of lie.

It's okay to have that opinion, but it's not okay to argue for the necessity of your position.

 

[Confucamus]

It was a blanket pardon for an actual President -who was obviously guilty of many things- over a span of like 5 years lol
You just had no idea Ford's pardon worked like that. It's OK dude, you're just ignorant.
But I guess if Ford had pardoned Nixon's child for being a degenerate crackhead, things would have cranked up to 11 lmao

No, you would just actually have a way to show the precedent was set. Instead, you mouth off and continuously have to backpedal away from things you've said. I wish just one of you goofs would just say you don't care. I guess it's too much to ask you grow grow a spine. Boring.

This is a laughably stupid post considering in a thread about Trump pardoning flynn you were what abouting obama’s pardons.

lol at you triggered so you search my posts. No, in that thread I was saying the same thing I am here.

You dumb dorks don't listen to anyone anyways.

Keep coping, loser.

We complained about his pardons when he was POTUS the first time and you didn’t care then.

Show me a Trump pardon that was anywhere near the level of this one. I'll wait. I'll say this again though, I don't blame Joe for doing it. It proves he's a liar and exposes the hypocrisy of the left in their reaction to it, but I don't blame him. I'm no Biden fan but he got shafted. Fuck everyone, I say.

 

[terrapin]

No, you would just actually have a way to show the precedent was set. Instead, you mouth off and continuously have to backpedal away from things you've said. I wish just one of you goofs would just say you don't care. I guess it's too much to ask you grow grow a spine. Boring.


lol at you triggered so you search my posts. No, in that thread I was saying the same thing I am here.


Keep coping, loser.


Show me a Trump pardon that was anywhere near the level of this one. I'll wait. I'll say this again though, I don't blame Joe for doing it. It proves he's a liar and exposes the hypocrisy of the left in their reaction to it, but I don't blame him. I'm no Biden fan but he got shafted. Fuck everyone, I say.

I posted a video above that listed several that are way worse than this one man. Go look for that post.

 

[Confucamus]

This is a laughably stupid post considering in a thread about Trump pardoning flynn you were what abouting obama’s pardons.

Another thing, despite your douchebag dig at me, your initial assessment of this earlier in the thread is EXACTLY how everybody should be looking at it. You showed consistency and fairness. Props to you, sincerely.

 

[Rob Battisti]

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You reacted with a lot of vitriol for no reason. Biden’s statement didn’t explain the reason for backdating. I was curious, since you dismissed a theory, if there was another statement I missed that you were aware of.

If there isn’t, what is your thoughts on the blanket nature of the pardon and the backdating? @BFoe offered a very reasonable explanation.

 

[Rob Battisti]

How do you 'bring them down to that level' when they have always already been down there?

How is Biden pardoning family any different then when Trump, Carter and Clinton did it prior?

If you want something to be 'obvious' then make a case for it.

Because for weeks he expressed that he wouldn’t do it?

 

[Confucamus]

Yeah, Trump has already been in office and already abused his pardon power to a ridiculous extent, and Confucamus has already debased himself by cheerleading for it.

For example:

You think Hunter Biden got fucked? I'm not surprised, but please elaborate on why you think so.

Edit: Actually, scratch that. I don't really care to read whatever disingenuous nonsense you will vomit back. Trump did not abuse his pardon powers, certainly not anywhere near this egregiously either. You can go your usual route of outright lying to try saying he did, but it won't work.

 

[Natural Order]

Well with all due respect Andy, you're completely wrong about that. Every moral failure on our part is a point for Trump and a point for that side and a loss for us.

You guys think we are fighting about policy and political parties and you're wrong. The fight that is going on in the United States right now is a fight between the status quo and a much more degraded form of democracy and populace and Trump is winning.

To be confused about what the fight is really about is to fight the wrong battles and loose.

Holler to your wife to bring you some meds, for God's sake.