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Crime Joe pardons Hunter

I repeat,

Because you refuse to look at who died....

Old
Obese
Sick
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Almost all excess deaths were 75 and older

And the US is the unhealthiest country in the world

Also... The US has metro city complexes on par with the population of Canada Provinces, all jammed into cities.... lol

New York City Metro - 23 Million
Greater Los Angelos Metro - 18 Million
Dallas/Fort Worth - 10 million
Canada - 40 Million
Ontario - 14 Million

What's the population of Toronto? 3 million? lol... Denver has 3 million.

Do you really need to be educated on this? Or do I need to dig out the data, only for you clowns to disappear and stop responding.
 
Andy twice as many in smaller places mean they can’t isolate as easily as Canadians could, I’m going to guess USA has double or more numbers of international travellers that came through as well.

See my post above
 
Trump pardoned people with this same exact gun charge but worse mitigating case factors though (Lil Wayne, Kodak Black). Trump’s pardoned tons of people with drug offenses, and tons of people with tax fraud a whole lot worse than Hunter’s.
Shit, Trump’s pardoned people with murder and manslaughter charges.

So what is it that we think is so egregious here—that it was a father pardoning his son?

Not egregious; I would have pardoned my son as well, just the usual in Washington. Connected people don't typically face punishment.

Just don't whine about Trump when the left have their own grift and their own moral failings.

Save democracy and the rule of law... LOL
 
See my post above
I mean I do think trump took Covid lightly but the us did shut down. I know I was literally on vacation to Disney when they announced a two shut down snd they Covid was serious snd shut downs were to be expected everywhere.
 
Not even close. He and I disagree politically about most things but he’s one of the most well educated and intelligent posters here. He’s top 10% of War Room IQ for sure.

397k were morbidly obese 80 year olds. Nobody needs to own anything except their own health. Your tribalist shit flinging is partisan nonsense.

Obama was going to create death panels that were going to kill grandma.
When Trump was in charge, ya'll changed your tune to fuck grandma, she can die.

And how many years later are Republicans still trying to rip that healthcare away? During the pandemic, the Trump admin argued in front of the Supreme Court to invalidate The Affordable Care Act, which would have left millions without health insurance. That same insurance that saved a bunch of midwestern fat asses when they caught covid.

And in all those years of Republicans trying to rip away healthcare, they've never offered an alternative plan.
It's time to shit, or get off the pot. They've had 14+ years, either present something other than a "concept", or work together to improve it.
 
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Not egregious; I would have pardoned my son as well, just the usual in Washington. Connected people don't typically face punishment.

Just don't whine about Trump when the left have their own grift and their own moral failings.

Save democracy and the rule of law... LOL
A POTUS using pardon power is a threat to democracy now? I don’t really see how that could be, as it’s expressly granted right in the Constitution.

But this is how it seems to go lately: the Right does awful shit that you all ignore, the Left does something that’s minuscule in comparison, and then the Right pretends that thing is not only just as bad but also a justification for them to do awful shit that they’ve actually already been doing.
 
A POTUS using pardon power is a threat to democracy now? I don’t really see how that could be, as it’s expressly granted right in the Constitution.

But this is how it seems to go lately: the Right does awful shit that you all ignore, the Left does something that’s minuscule in comparison, and then the Right pretends that thing is not only just as bad but also a justification for them to do awful shit that they’ve actually already been doing.

No. Save democracy by forcing out the duly elected presidential candidate and installing a person that no one voted for.

And we were supposed to vote for Kamala to save democracy and the rule of law. You know - "no one is above the law"............ "unless it's a politician's kid."

Just save the gnashing of teeth next time. Admit the left is as screwed up as the right and go on about voting for your team.
 
This kind of simplistic child’s thinking is why our country is so fucked.
Nothing I expressed in that post requires believing in Russian collusion.


—Do we care about a POTUS dangling pardons like a carrot in exchange for people keeping silent about ANY of said POTUS’s crimes, or don’t we?

—Do we care about people, shady work in Ukraine or not? Manafort has tons. Manafort was literally on the payroll of Russian oligarchs.

—Do we care about tax evasion and financial crimes? Manafort was guilty of tax evasion, bank fraud, money laundering…. There were 18 criminal charges (including 8 felonies)—5 falsifications of income tax returns, 4 failures to file foreign bank account reports, 4 counts of bank fraud, and 5 counts of bank fraud conspiracy…far, far more money involved than Hunter’s case, which involved money Hunter paid back long ago.

Manafort is one of the swampiest swamp creatures that ever swamped, but you guys DGAF—yet I’m supposed to give a fuck about this awful, terrible Hunter Biden pardon?


I don’t think that’s true, about roles being reversed. We had major problems with some of Trump’s pardons, including the Manafort one above, but we didn’t ray and impeach him. No one “raided his home” over it. We were concerned that the way Trump used the pardon essentially amounted to obstruction of justice—but is that even possible?

The Constitution says, “(The POTUS) shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.“
So sure, I guess the Republicans could throw some flimsy it together and have a House vote and impeach—but what is the offense? Would never pass the Senate either.



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You know you don’t have to @ me every time one of my posts hurts your fragile feelings, right? You can just be butthurt quietly by yourself.
You can point out 100 things Trump did wrong that does not justify what Biden did is good, what’s your opinion of this without Trump being involved ?
 
Trump pardoned people with this same exact gun charge but worse mitigating case factors though (Lil Wayne, Kodak Black). Trump’s pardoned tons of people with drug offenses, and tons of people with tax fraud a whole lot worse than Hunter’s.
Shit, Trump’s pardoned people with murder and manslaughter charges.

So what is it that we think is so egregious here—that it was a father pardoning his son?


Biden pardoned his son who did crimes Joe was connected to. He pardoned himself.
 
Obama was going to create death panels that were going to kill grandma.
When Trump was in charge, ya'll changed your tune to fuck grandma, she can die.

And how many years later are Republicans still trying to rip that healthcare away? During the pandemic, the Trump admin argued in front of the Supreme Court to invalidate The Affordable Care Act, which would have left millions without health insurance. That same insurance that saved a bunch of midwestern fat asses when they caught covid.

And in all those years of Republicans trying to rip away healthcare, they've never offered an alternative plan.
It's time to shit, or get off the pot. They've had 14+ years, either present something other than a "concept", or work together to improve it.
I wholeheartedly agree with almost everything you just posted….but this is an altogether separate discussion from my comment and really has nothing to do with COVID deaths in America or who was actually responsible for them.
 
A POTUS using pardon power is a threat to democracy now? I don’t really see how that could be, as it’s expressly granted right in the Constitution.
this is clearly not about formalism and you know it.
But this is how it seems to go lately: the Right does awful shit that you all ignore, the Left does something that’s minuscule in comparison, and then the Right pretends that thing is not only just as bad but also a justification for them to do awful shit that they’ve actually already been doing.
Point of it was the left is losing daily the moral high ground it used to bash the right on. right now it's no longer about "we would never do that", it's "well, our guys are not as bad as their guys". and that is a fall from grace it's hard to recover from.
 
You skipped the part about why Hunter needs the pardon to carry over the last few years as well.

Joe is basically saying 'Hunter may have done illegal things while I've been president as well'.
You may have done illegal things in that time. The King of England 'may have'.

That is not what matters. What matters is that COmer and Jim Jordan, in the same way Kevin McCarthy did prior and bragged about, that they do not care if you did crimes. They use the non stop investigations as a weapon against perceived foes.

That is what Joe cares about. Trump has sworn, as has Kash to put them all through non stop investigations and charges that will never stick.
 
The DA told the appellate court that no case like Trump's has ever been charged. One with no complaining witness and everyone has been paid.

and I hate that you're making me defend what he did.
False.

You are lying about it all which is why you will never quote what you are claiming as it does not exist.
 
The scope of the pardon is unprecedented.

The extraordinary breadth of Hunter Biden’s pardon​

President Joe Biden’s pardon of his son, Hunter Biden, on Sunday is exceptional not just because of the pardon’s recipient — the closest family member to receive a pardon in history — but also for its sheer breadth, according to experts on presidential pardons.


Biden didn’t just pardon his son for his convictions on tax and gun charges, but for any “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014, through December 1, 2024.”
 
this is clearly not about formalism and you know it.
Point of it was the left is losing daily the moral high ground it used to bash the right on. right now it's no longer about "we would never do that", it's "well, our guys are not as bad as their guys". and that is a fall from grace it's hard to recover from.
So long as we remain divided and argue about the sanctity of our prefered (prescribed) evil, the overlords (elites lol) and their mouthpieces on the TV can work towards conjuring up new meanings for the word "lying"
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I was, and I saw a lot of people (including me) happy that the chaos of the Trump years was over and hoping we could all return to some normalcy. Big whoopsie doo on us, I guess.
If you were, then you would remember all of those things you mentioned seeing now being 10 times worse than anything said since this most recent election.

The scope of the pardon is unprecedented.

The extraordinary breadth of Hunter Biden’s pardon​

President Joe Biden’s pardon of his son, Hunter Biden, on Sunday is exceptional not just because of the pardon’s recipient — the closest family member to receive a pardon in history — but also for its sheer breadth, according to experts on presidential pardons.


Biden didn’t just pardon his son for his convictions on tax and gun charges, but for any “offenses against the United States which he has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014, through December 1, 2024.”
I've been told here that it was totally within a precedent set by Ford when he pardoned Nixon. Apparently, Nixon is Ford's son and got a blanket pardon for 11 years of known and unknown crimes. Guess nobody knew!
 
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