JJ was the goat (IMO) and a true competitor

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

So many of GSPs wins would've wrestlefucked Jones' wins if they were the same size. I mean BJ Penn even gave Machida a hard fight lol.

LHW had the bigger names/stars, but WW had superior talent.

Yep. Plus Kos beat Rumble and Shields beat Hendo.

 

[Vehap1]

A Jones with no PEDS still beats all of his opponents even if they were on PEDs.

Retard alert
Go educate yourself son

 

[World eater]

Always amusing when Sherdog acts like Jon and TJ Dillashaw are the only guys in UFC who've ever used PEDs.

We also pretend most people are not criminals because they don’t have criminal records. Clearly anyone can commit a crime, but getting caught is the point. Jones is good at fighting and is good at getting caught as well.

 

[Alpha_T83]

So using and getting caught is worse than using and not getting caught while still benefiting?

Getting caught is worse because it proves you are abusing steroids. There's no way to prove who is and isn't using steroids among the fighters that don't pop.

Defending a steroid user because "other people are probably doping" is peak idiocy.

 

[mkess101]

To me, him as a fighter... Goat (imo), a toughness and resilience like no other and an obsessive competitor .... All the best, started in 2009... Until 2025. Managed to stay undefeated until 2025, fighting for belts only, ever since 2011...

On the one hand, your addiction to spamming the forum with repetitive and unneeded threads isn't healthy.

That said, this may be the most concise and to the point post you've ever made. Seems like you might be making progress. I'm proud of you!

 

[Deleted member 517683]

Getting caught is worse because it proves you are abusing steroids. There's no way to prove who is and isn't using steroids among the fighters that don't pop.

Defending a steroid user because "other people are probably doping" is peak idiocy.

^^^THIS!
That´s what you can read every fucking time someone brings JBJ´s PED history on the table. "Everybody is on something" or "Only because they aren´t caught doesn´t mean they are not on something". It´s odd. And a shame, too. Being a fan of someone who has cheated and defending EVERY OTHER SHIT what he did is amusing on one side, on the other it shows the moral of the defenders, who would probably cheat as well for a W. Ridiculous.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Getting caught is worse because it proves you are abusing steroids. There's no way to prove who is and isn't using steroids among the fighters that don't pop.

Defending a steroid user because "other people are probably doping" is peak idiocy.

"Cheating is fine as long as one doesn't get caught."

Got it!

 

[Angelassassin53]

Always amusing when Sherdog acts like Jon and TJ Dillashaw are the only guys in UFC who've ever used PEDs. I'm sorry Jon beat your favorite fighters, but that was 10+ years ago and it's time to move on!

http://www.betterhelp.com

With designer drugs and having more resources than the average fighter, how come Jones popped so frequently?

Both he and Anderson disqualified themselves from GOAT talks as soon as they popped. You can argue they faced higher scrutiny, sure, but the fact is he as an asterisk across his entire career and calling him "a true competitor" is disingenuous at best

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

With designer drugs and having more resources than the average fighter, how come Jones popped so frequently?

Because he's fight-smart but real life-dumb

 

[Angelassassin53]

Because he's fight-smart but real life-dumb

Which gives him a pass for being a life long career cheat?

 

[JKS]

So many of GSPs wins would've wrestlefucked Jones' wins if they were the same size. I mean BJ Penn even gave Machida a hard fight lol.

LHW had the bigger names/stars, but WW had superior talent.

My friend, no, just no. The only good wrestlers that GSP faced were Hughes, Koscheck and Fitch. And Koschek wasn't even that good TBH. Jones faced Cormier, who alone is a higher level than anyone GSP faced and then Rashad, Bader, Glover.

You're point doesn't hold up here, we're not talking about p4p, we're talking about level of competition. And fact of the matter is that Jones faced opponents who reached a higher level in the sport than GSPs. Shogun, Machida, Rashad, Belfort, Rampage, Cormier 2x and Glover were all LHW champions. Aside from Hughes and Hendricks, GSP mostly faced mid teir and contender level WWs

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Which gives him a pass for being a life long career cheat?

Not the original question, but I'll bite: that distinction doesn't exist in my MMA fandom.

 

[TriangleMonkey]

He's a career steroid abuser, but I won't deny his talent.

Let's not forget this is the man that got UFC 151 cancelled by refusing Chael Sonnen (a middleweight) as a short-notice replacement...

Never forget

 

[Luffy]

And now he is ruining his legacy by shamelessly ducking Aspinall.

How can one duck by fighting that same person to the death?

 

[bjjwar]

Bro got absoutely destroyed by a bum like Gustaffson. Couldnt even walk or take a sh** days after the fight. Got sent to the hospital crying. Got destroyed by Reyes, lost to Santos with 2 shut knees. Made his career off PED’s and poking fighters to gain an unfair advantage while fighting small old washed MW’s. A disgrace of a career

 

[Luffy]

On the one hand, your addiction to spamming the forum with repetitive and unneeded threads isn't healthy.

That said, this may be the most concise and to the point post you've ever made. Seems like you might be making progress. I'm proud of you!

I'm not spamming the forum. This is a meaningful moment in the end of a cycle in the UFC. The end of a career that got through 3 generations, was always the Boogeyman and fought until the end with his life even on the line ...

 

[mkess101]

I'm not spamming the forum. This is a meaningful moment in the end of a cycle in the UFC. The end of a career that got through 3 generations, was always the Boogeyman and fought until the end with his life even on the line ...

There have been a bazillion threads about how great Jon Jones' career has been.

You feeling the need to further glaze him every 5 minutes is something else, dude.

But like I said, you kept this one short and sweet and that's progress.

 

[Ares Black]

How can one duck by fighting that same person to the death?

Huh?

 

[ricc505]

I'm not spamming the forum. This is a meaningful moment in the end of a cycle in the UFC. The end of a career that got through 3 generations, was always the Boogeyman and fought until the end with his life even on the line ...

If I block you do I stop seeing all the dog shit threads you post in their entirety? It's fucking nauseating already

 

[ultra321]

Huh... I noticed the thread title and thought you may have meant someone that would have been true about...
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